A Life of Choosing

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Many people are confused about the role that choosing has in the Christian life. Some seem to think that God just makes things happen without our knowledge or consent. They have a spectator mentality, waiting for God to force His will on them.

That is not God's way as the Bible clearly teaches. God's will shall be done and that is as certain as night follows day. But it's not automatic. God needs, by His own spiritual law, to gain the cooperation of men. Abraham obeyed God, Moses obeyed, the heroes of faith were (and are now) those who obey God.

Obedience requires us to choose. Agreeing with God is not choosing. It is possible to agree with God and yet do nothing about it. The root of sin is disobedience. It's not just an issue of not breaking commandments, it is a positive commitment to God's ways and God's will.

God's way is revealed in His Word. Psalm 25:12 summarises it perfectly:

"Who is the man who fears the LORD? He will instruct him in the way he should choose."

"Fear" in this instance means a healthy respect. The people of Israel in the wilderness were afraid of God, but they did not take His Word seriously. The journey from Egypt to Canaan should have taken about 2 weeks. Instead, it took 40 years.

"Instruct". God does not treat us like robots. He instructs those who respect Him. If you are having trouble from God, check out your heart attitude.

"Choose". Yes, that word again. This goes against the fatalistic, "God is in control", kind of attitude that many have. God surely has a purpose for every born again Christian. How that works out in experience depends on what we choose to do with what God reveals to us.

Do you feel like your life is going nowhere? Do you have a vision for your life that is not coming to pass? Are you waiting for God? Maybe God is waiting for you - to choose.
 

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Many people are confused about the role that choosing has in the Christian life. Some seem to think that God just makes things happen without our knowledge or consent. They have a spectator mentality, waiting for God to force His will on them.

That is not God's way as the Bible clearly teaches. God's will shall be done and that is as certain as night follows day. But it's not automatic. God needs, by His own spiritual law, to gain the cooperation of men. Abraham obeyed God, Moses obeyed, the heroes of faith were (and are now) those who obey God.

Obedience requires us to choose. Agreeing with God is not choosing. It is possible to agree with God and yet do nothing about it. The root of sin is disobedience. It's not just an issue of not breaking commandments, it is a positive commitment to God's ways and God's will.

God's way is revealed in His Word. Psalm 25:12 summarises it perfectly:

"Who is the man who fears the LORD? He will instruct him in the way he should choose."

"Fear" in this instance means a healthy respect. The people of Israel in the wilderness were afraid of God, but they did not take His Word seriously. The journey from Egypt to Canaan should have taken about 2 weeks. Instead, it took 40 years.

"Instruct". God does not treat us like robots. He instructs those who respect Him. If you are having trouble from God, check out your heart attitude.

"Choose". Yes, that word again. This goes against the fatalistic, "God is in control", kind of attitude that many have. God surely has a purpose for every born again Christian. How that works out in experience depends on what we choose to do with what God reveals to us.

Do you feel like your life is going nowhere? Do you have a vision for your life that is not coming to pass? Are you waiting for God? Maybe God is waiting for you - to choose.



So VERY, VERY, VERY well put! Bravo!

I would add one touch...
We must always make the distinction between God's Sovereign Will, which will always come to pass no matter what, and God's Permissible Will, which is subject to the choices we make in life and the choices other people make.
 
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Many people are confused about the role that choosing has in the Christian life. Some seem to think that God just makes things happen without our knowledge or consent. They have a spectator mentality, waiting for God to force His will on them.

That is not God's way as the Bible clearly teaches. God's will shall be done and that is as certain as night follows day. But it's not automatic. God needs, by His own spiritual law, to gain the cooperation of men. Abraham obeyed God, Moses obeyed, the heroes of faith were (and are now) those who obey God.

Obedience requires us to choose. Agreeing with God is not choosing. It is possible to agree with God and yet do nothing about it. The root of sin is disobedience. It's not just an issue of not breaking commandments, it is a positive commitment to God's ways and God's will.

God's way is revealed in His Word. Psalm 25:12 summarises it perfectly:

"Who is the man who fears the LORD? He will instruct him in the way he should choose."

"Fear" in this instance means a healthy respect. The people of Israel in the wilderness were afraid of God, but they did not take His Word seriously. The journey from Egypt to Canaan should have taken about 2 weeks. Instead, it took 40 years.

"Instruct". God does not treat us like robots. He instructs those who respect Him. If you are having trouble from God, check out your heart attitude.

"Choose". Yes, that word again. This goes against the fatalistic, "God is in control", kind of attitude that many have. God surely has a purpose for every born again Christian. How that works out in experience depends on what we choose to do with what God reveals to us.

Do you feel like your life is going nowhere? Do you have a vision for your life that is not coming to pass? Are you waiting for God? Maybe God is waiting for you - to choose.

I think we need to come to understand that God's ways really are what we want. We are used to working and working and working for what? But God wants us to let Him do the heavy lifting, the Work - ergon, and we put that all into our lives, work out your salvation - katergadzomai, perform it.

We have to choose to want His will, and we have to choose to believe that He is able to bring it to pass.

Amen!

Much love!
Mark
 
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Choosing and fulfilling that choice is an essential part of faith. The idea that God controls all and every decision we make is not found in the bible, but it seems to be an essential part of many churches!

Many years ago, I was asked by the pastor of a small Pentecostal church I attended, to conduct a discussion group. The subject was left to me, so bearing in mind the OP, my choice was "The Character of God". We prayed a little and then I started asking questions about how they saw God, and drawing answers from the people around the room.

As we came to the end, I did a summary of what was being said and asked if they all agreed, which brought a unanimous yes from the group.

"Congratulations", I said, "You have just described Allah, the god of Islam, the god of the Koran!"

They were all shocked, including the pastor. I had to go through it and show all the control freakery they believed in.

It is deeply sad that even on this forum, the attributes many members give to God, would in my mind suit Allah far more than Jehovah!

And as an amusing aside, if God controls all decisions, why are there so many disagreements in the church?
 
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So VERY, VERY, VERY well put! Bravo!

I would add one touch...
We must always make the distinction between God's Sovereign Will, which will always come to pass no matter what, and God's Permissible Will, which is subject to the choices we make in life and the choices other people make.
The problem with that thinking is not that it is wrong but that many people abdicate their personal responsibility before God and so delay God's will. For sure God will have His way. Will it take 2 weeks or 40 years? That's our responsibility.
 
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The problem with that thinking is not that it is wrong but that many people abdicate their personal responsibility before God and so delay God's will. For sure God will have His way. Will it take 2 weeks or 40 years? That's our responsibility.

I find I completely lose focus on such things as "Decretive", "Prescriptive", and "Permissive" Will of God, when I am solely focused on God, and walking in His Spirit.

In the enjoyment of God's love and presence and holiness and all He does for me, there seems to me to be only one will of God that matters, and that is what He's doing with me right now. I guess I'm not really interested in parsing these things, only, am I walking in trust and love?

Much love!
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I find I completely lose focus on such things as "Decretive", "Prescriptive", and "Permissive" Will of God, when I am solely focused on God, and walking in His Spirit.

In the enjoyment of God's love and presence and holiness and all He does for me, there seems to me to be only one will of God that matters, and that is what He's doing with me right now. I guess I'm not really interested in parsing these things, only, am I walking in trust and love?

Much love!
Mark
Absolutely. If we choose His will daily, the rest will work out. It has to be an active choosing, which is where many people come unstuck. I went through that stage myself. Then I wondered why I was making no progress in my Christian life. There is no autopilot.

My comments were directed to those who imagine that God takes control and does everything without us being involved. That is a deception.
 
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Absolutely. If we choose His will daily, the rest will work out. It has to be an active choosing, which is where many people come unstuck. I went through that stage myself. Then I wondered why I was making no progress in my Christian life. There is no autopilot.

My comments were directed to those who imagine that God takes control and does everything without us being involved. That is a deception.
Agreed!
 
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Absolutely. If we choose His will daily, the rest will work out. It has to be an active choosing, which is where many people come unstuck. I went through that stage myself. Then I wondered why I was making no progress in my Christian life. There is no autopilot.

My comments were directed to those who imagine that God takes control and does everything without us being involved. That is a deception.
I think part of the problem is that most Christians imagine that choosing and obeying God is just about following the right set of laws. That's why there are so many threads starting with the question, "Is it a sin to....?"

Living a life of obeying laws enables Christians to bypass a heart relationship with their Heavenly Father, but gives the impression that they live by faith.

The moment I truly understood the Father Heart of God, I ceased worrying about sin, and started walking in joyfilled relationship. That has been my life for decades.
 
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I think part of the problem is that most Christians imagine that choosing and obeying God is just about following the right set of laws. That's why there are so many threads starting with the question, "Is it a sin to....?"

Living a life of obeying laws enables Christians to bypass a heart relationship with their Heavenly Father, but gives the impression that they live by faith.

The moment I truly understood the Father Heart of God, I ceased worrying about sin, and started walking in joyfilled relationship. That has been my life for decades.
Exactly. If only Christians realised that you can't have fellowship with a stone tablet. If we will learn to walk in the Spirit, the law becomes redundant. It's done its job - to lead us to Christ.
 
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