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I am struggling to understand my belief in Jesus, My family did not take kindly when I had told them of my change in faith, it was not as bad as I imagined though nevertheless I just kept this to myself for a while thereafter, until when someone else learned of my belief I was given evidences that the Bible is indeed untrue, and many more very outright proofs. Along with the kindness shown to me, I just I renounced my faith in Christ and repented into my religion. I am seriously having a difficult time understanding where I fit concerning religions, the time spent in learning about Christianity was very enjoyable and peaceful, however once the doubts set in I am lost for words. It seems I care about what others percieve of me as well, to be known of as Unbeliever.. I cannot accept. The heart of the matter is that initially I really believed. Now, it is just out of want to believe, despite the doubts and clear proofs. My experience of it was really the most befitting ever had.

My qeustion is: if you accepted Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior once, but changed your faith yet at heart you still don't truly 'reject' the faith either, are you still saved? I have not been baptized yet, although I made some effort to reach out a pastor/church. What should I do? The reality hasn't shifted at all, despite knowing a new religion and harboring a significant amount of love and appreciation for this..
 
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Really it is believing that Jesus is the promised Messiah from The Tanakh and trusting in The Messiah for His gift of His Eternal life. When a person does this they have Eternal Life never to lose it. They have crossed over from death to life.
 
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After he was resurrected, Jesus called Peter back to him (John 21) after Peter had disowned him three times on the night of his arrest (John 18:15-27). You may certainly return.

Of course, there are no "clear" or "outright" proofs against Christianity itself. If you share reasons for your doubts, perhaps we can help you understand better.
 
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Satan loves an unbeliever as he can get his nasty claws into you.
I was catholic for many years but thinngs just started to not sit right with me. I stopped going to mass and was introduced to non denominational church. I began to realise that I was led away from catholicism. Religion is man made but Jesus is One with God and the Holy Spirit. I gave my life to Jesus in 2017 and I know God loves me just as He loves you. The Bible is very real and you will learn so much from it. Satan will do his very best to persuade you otherwise.
Don't let him win you over but let Jesus into your heart. Praying for you
 
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Hi Oceanmoon,

I can only imagine how difficult this is for you. To answer your question, once you are saved/born again/a Christian, then you are saved forever.

What must I do to be saved?
1) Realize that you’re are a sinner. (Romans 3:23, 5:12; 1 John 1:10)

2) Change your mind about Jesus (repent).
  • Jesus said: “…unless you repent (have a change of mind that results in a change of action), you will all perish and be lost eternally. (Luke 13:5)
  • …now God charges all people everywhere to repent. (Acts 17:30)
3) Believe the Gospel, that Jesus Christ died for you, was buried and rose from the dead.
  • We are made right in God’s sight when we trust in Jesus Christ to take away our sins. And we all can be saved in the same way, no matter who we are or what we have done. For God sent Jesus to take the punishment for our sins and to satisfy God’s anger against us. We are made right with God when we believe that Jesus shed His blood, sacrificing His Life for us. (Romans 3:22, 25)
  • For if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. (Romans 10:9)
4) Go to God in prayer, confessing Jesus as Lord and your need for forgiveness of your sins. Give your life to Jesus, making Him the Lord of your life.
  • For it is believing in your heart that you are made right with God, and it is by confessing with your mouth that you are saved. (Romans 10:10)
  • For anyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.(Romans 10:13)
Then you've got to trust Jesus to do His part, to save you, just like He said He will. <~~~Without this part, I spent years doubting my salvation, praying (over & over/again & again) for God to save me, never knowing, for sure, if I was. Ever since I started trusting Jesus to do what He said He will do, I know I'm saved and have never had any doubts about it since then.

You can share with us, any doubts or questions you have and the objections that others have made, and we will help you with those. If you need a Bible, there's one right here~~~> Bible Gateway passage: Romans 3:21-28 - New Living Translation .

Here are some other links that I hope will be helpful to you:

I have just put my faith in Jesus...now what? | GotQuestions.org
Muslim Questions - questions from Muslims and about Islam | GotQuestions.org


Concerning the the Bible, if the Bible is true, then Christianity is true, and God, who is described within it's pages, is true.

The Bible was written over a period of 1,600 years, by 40 God chosen men, who lived on multiple continents and they all wrote about the same thing, the Gospel of Jesus Christ. There were no mail delivery trucks, no drop ship planes, no Federal Express, no UPS and no email, yet when all of the writings were put together they present one unified message. The Bible is truly the Word of God.

Following are some topics and links I hope you will look into, concerning the validity of the Bible. Please see what the evidence has to say.

An excellent ebook on the subject: http://apologeticspress.org/.../Behold%20the%20Word%20of...

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Proof of Textual Evidence:

Old Testament:
The Dead Sea Scrolls and Biblical Integrity: http://apologeticspress.org/apPubPage.aspx?pub=1&issue=444
State-of-the-Art Technology Proves the Purity of Biblical Text: http://patternsofevidence.com/.../state-of-the-art.../

New Testament: http://www.carm.org/questions/textualevidence.htm

More on the Bible: http://www.carm.org/bible.htm
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Proof of People Living at the Time of Christ:

http://www.carm.org/questions/extrabiblical_accounts.htm
Searching for Evidence Beyond the Bible: https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/.../did-jesus-exist/
http://www.carm.org/questions/Josephus.htm
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Proof of Archaeology:

http://www.christiananswers.net/archaeology/home.html...
http://www.carm.org/questions/evidence_archaeological.htm
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Proof of Science: Statements Consistent With Paleontology, Astronomy, Meteorology, Biology, Anthropology, Hydrology and Geology:

http://www.clarifyingchristianity.com/science.shtml
http://www.carm.org/bible/ms_science.htm
101 Scientific Facts and Foreknowledge: http://www.eternal-productions.org/101science.html
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Proof of Prophecy (Messanic & dealing with nations):
The Bible -: Proofs of Its Supernatural Origin: https://www.gospeloutreach.net/bibsuper.html
http://www.clarifyingchristianity.com/m_prophecies.shtml

Fulfilled Bible Prophecy Dealing With Nations:
http://www.clarifyingchristianity.com/fulfill.shtml
http://www.carm.org/bible/prophecy.htm
https://s3.amazonaws.com/.../friend-book-ninth-printing.pdf (pages 11 & 12/awesome eBook)
How Do You Know The Bible Is True?: http://www.clarifyingchristianity.com/b_proof.shtml
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If the Bible is true, Christianity is true. In Christianity, faith is required but it does not have to be a blind faith.
 
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Hi,
I am struggling to understand my belief in Jesus, My family did not take kindly when I had told them of my change in faith, it was not as bad as I imagined though nevertheless I just kept this to myself for a while thereafter, until when someone else learned of my belief I was given evidences that the Bible is indeed untrue, and many more very outright proofs. Along with the kindness shown to me, I just I renounced my faith in Christ and repented into my religion. I am seriously having a difficult time understanding where I fit concerning religions, the time spent in learning about Christianity was very enjoyable and peaceful, however once the doubts set in I am lost for words. It seems I care about what others percieve of me as well, to be known of as Unbeliever.. I cannot accept. The heart of the matter is that initially I really believed. Now, it is just out of want to believe, despite the doubts and clear proofs. My experience of it was really the most befitting ever had.

My qeustion is: if you accepted Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior once, but changed your faith yet at heart you still don't truly 'reject' the faith either, are you still saved? I have not been baptized yet, although I made some effort to reach out a pastor/church. What should I do? The reality hasn't shifted at all, despite knowing a new religion and harboring a significant amount of love and appreciation for this..

It's something in your case you should be careful about. Please find a priest there you can talk to you about it.
 
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The situation you are in is you are a christian in a hostile environment. The simplest answer is this: just lie. What did David do when he was cornered by his enemies? He lied to get away. Do the same in this situation. Pretend to go along with the idiocies that your family might do. Why voice your objections anyways if you're just going to be hunted for them and no good arises from that hunting. So just sit down, stop talking about your faith/doing actions that might hint to it (although don't stop the heart from commiting christian acts less your lies become truth), and relax. It's the only way to get through these Noahic times
I literally can’t believe I’m reading these words on a Christian forum.


But whoever disowns me before others, I will disown before my Father
-Jesus Christ

Mark 8:38
"For whoever is ashamed of Me and My words in this adulterous and sinful generation, the Son of Man will also be ashamed of him when He comes in the glory of His Father with the holy angels."
 
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Hi,
I am struggling to understand my belief in Jesus, My family did not take kindly when I had told them of my change in faith, it was not as bad as I imagined though nevertheless I just kept this to myself for a while thereafter, until when someone else learned of my belief I was given evidences that the Bible is indeed untrue, and many more very outright proofs. Along with the kindness shown to me, I just I renounced my faith in Christ and repented into my religion. I am seriously having a difficult time understanding where I fit concerning religions, the time spent in learning about Christianity was very enjoyable and peaceful, however once the doubts set in I am lost for words. It seems I care about what others percieve of me as well, to be known of as Unbeliever.. I cannot accept. The heart of the matter is that initially I really believed. Now, it is just out of want to believe, despite the doubts and clear proofs. My experience of it was really the most befitting ever had.

My qeustion is: if you accepted Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior once, but changed your faith yet at heart you still don't truly 'reject' the faith either, are you still saved? I have not been baptized yet, although I made some effort to reach out a pastor/church. What should I do? The reality hasn't shifted at all, despite knowing a new religion and harboring a significant amount of love and appreciation for this..
Pray to God and ask him to take your fear, and read the book of John and the book of Romans in a bible!!!!
 
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Hi,
I am struggling to understand my belief in Jesus, My family did not take kindly when I had told them of my change in faith, it was not as bad as I imagined though nevertheless I just kept this to myself for a while thereafter, until when someone else learned of my belief I was given evidences that the Bible is indeed untrue, and many more very outright proofs. Along with the kindness shown to me, I just I renounced my faith in Christ and repented into my religion. I am seriously having a difficult time understanding where I fit concerning religions, the time spent in learning about Christianity was very enjoyable and peaceful, however once the doubts set in I am lost for words. It seems I care about what others percieve of me as well, to be known of as Unbeliever.. I cannot accept. The heart of the matter is that initially I really believed. Now, it is just out of want to believe, despite the doubts and clear proofs. My experience of it was really the most befitting ever had.

My qeustion is: if you accepted Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior once, but changed your faith yet at heart you still don't truly 'reject' the faith either, are you still saved? I have not been baptized yet, although I made some effort to reach out a pastor/church. What should I do? The reality hasn't shifted at all, despite knowing a new religion and harboring a significant amount of love and appreciation for this..
My question to you is, what caused you to believe Jesus in the first place? Around 2 billion people believe the Bible to be God's Word. It has been examined over and over again for 2,000 years and still stands as true. My suggestion to you is to talk to God about the doubts that you are having. He is real, Jesus is real, He really did die and He really did rise again. I know that Islam disputes this, but so do Jews. God will make things clear to you if you ask Him. He has promised to answer you if you will ask. You may have to be persistent. Many people here will help you.

There is one truth that you seriously need to consider. No religion offers you salvation. All religions will tell you how you should live, but none offer you any help to live how you should. Lord Jesus is different. He came that you might have eternal life, not just a set of rules to follow. Christianity is not a religion. It is a relationship with God through Christ. May God give you ears to hear and eyes to see the truth.
 
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I'll certainly pray for you also. I grew up mostly without any religion. My grandparents, parents and siblings didn't become Christians. I was the only one who ever wanted to know what Jesus taught. My parents have passed away. Please know that true Christians love one another. I'm sending my love to you.
 
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Jesus said "Are not five sparrows sold for two pennies? Yet not one of them is forgotten in God’s sight. But even the hairs of your head are all counted. Do not be afraid; you are of more value than many sparrows".

He then goes on to exhort us to confess Him before others: "And I tell you, everyone who acknowledges me before others, the Son of Man also will acknowledge before the angels of God". Confessing Jesus is Lord is emphasised in other parts of the NT and it is what we are expected to do as His followers.

It is hard to live our Christian lives when we are surrounded with people who are opposed to its teachings. However, be of good comfort, because Jesus said "In this world you will have trouble. But take heart! I have overcome the world.”
 
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Hi @Oceanmoon. I have a lot of compassion toward your situation. As I recall, I and others back then advised you to light-pedal news of your new faith, because the opposition would be so overwhelming, and possibly even dangerous. The book I recommended, I dared to call Him Father, has a lot of Biblical wisdom regarding this. You are a new believer, and your faith is like a delicate sprout coming out of the ground. It needs to be protected as well as nourished. So no condemnation from me regarding your current condition.

As to the question of whether "one saved, always saved", this is one of the perennial questions that Christians too frequently argue over. "Man sees the outer appearance, but God looks on the heart" (1Sam). It's all about the heart. I would counsel you not to obsess about this question right now, because I don't think it would be helpful. Rather, keep seeking God, in the Bible, through prayer and meditation, and through whatever fellowship you might be able to find.

There's a story in the Old Testament about a Syrian leper, a prominent general, who comes down and is healed by the prophet Elisha. It's quite a dramatic story, and when he comes out of the water healed, he proclaims,

"Behold, I know that there is no God in all the earth but in Israel; so accept now a present from your servant." - 2Ki 5:15​

But he's going to return to his pagan land, and he has responsibilities, so he goes on:

In this matter may the LORD pardon your servant: when my master goes into the house of Rimmon to worship there, leaning on my arm, and I bow myself in the house of Rimmon, when I bow myself in the house of Rimmon, the LORD pardon your servant in this matter." He said to him, "Go in peace." - 2Ki 5:18-19​

Elisha sees Naaman's extenuating circumstances, and does not lay a heavy burden on him.

Now, I'm not saying that is always the way to go. Sometimes we have to make a clear break from the old ways. But God knows the heart, and there is a time for everything. I don't recall you exact age, but it may be that you should spend time strengthening and maturing your faith, so you can withstand the attacks when they come, or at least, perhaps get out from among negative influences.

But the important thing is to protect and nurture that seed that was planted in your heart. If you keep your heart open to the Lord, He is going to "show you things you do not know" and impart wisdom that no one will be able to refute.

Give it time, and be patient with yourself. God has a right time for everything, and He is faithful. His power is perfected in weakness (2Cor 12).

Bless you sister.
 
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You can expect the enemy to work against you as you get closer or think about God more. The devil does not want you to become saved. So it's not surprising your family did not like your choice. But be strong. As for being worried about how you are perceived, well that's part of the cross we carry as christians. The devil whispers to us "If you become saved, imagine how people you know will dislike you! Isn't it better to be loved and do what you want anyways?".

Truly believe Jesus is your savior. That he died for all of our sins. If people want to get mad at you or try to draw you away, remember they answer for their own choices in life. Just as you answer for yours.
 
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Hi,
I am struggling to understand my belief in Jesus, My family did not take kindly when I had told them of my change in faith, it was not as bad as I imagined though nevertheless I just kept this to myself for a while thereafter, until when someone else learned of my belief I was given evidences that the Bible is indeed untrue, and many more very outright proofs. Along with the kindness shown to me, I just I renounced my faith in Christ and repented into my religion. I am seriously having a difficult time understanding where I fit concerning religions, the time spent in learning about Christianity was very enjoyable and peaceful, however once the doubts set in I am lost for words. It seems I care about what others percieve of me as well, to be known of as Unbeliever.. I cannot accept. The heart of the matter is that initially I really believed. Now, it is just out of want to believe, despite the doubts and clear proofs. My experience of it was really the most befitting ever had.

My qeustion is: if you accepted Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior once, but changed your faith yet at heart you still don't truly 'reject' the faith either, are you still saved? I have not been baptized yet, although I made some effort to reach out a pastor/church. What should I do? The reality hasn't shifted at all, despite knowing a new religion and harboring a significant amount of love and appreciation for this..


Isaiah 55
"11so My word that proceeds from My mouth will not return to Me empty, but it will accomplish what I please, and it will prosper where I send it."

Luke 8
"11Now this is the meaning of the parable: The seed is the word of God. 12The seeds along the path are those who hear, but the devil comes and takes away the word from their hearts, so that they may not believe and be saved. 13The seeds on rocky ground are those who hear the word and receive it with joy, but they have no root. They believe for a season, but in the time of testing, they fall away. 14The seeds that fell among the thorns are those who hear, but as they go on their way, they are choked by the worries, riches, and pleasures of this life, and their fruit does not mature. 15But the seeds on good soil are those with a noble and good heart, who hear the word, cling to it, and by persevering produce a crop."

Dear Sister, you are a young sapling and you will face many storms, so dig your roots deep into His Word and pray fervently that you hear His Voice.

May Abba Yah Breathe deeply into this Body and raise us up into the heavenly places with Yahshua ha Mashiach. Amen.


*Isaiah 55
"12You will indeed go out with joy and be led forth in peace; the mountains and hills will burst into song before you, and all the trees of the field will clap their hands."
 
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