Newman relic stolen

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The only surviving piece of bone thought to have belong to St. John Henry Newman has been stolen from the Birmingham Oratory.

Newman relic stolen | Catholic Herald :pray:
He was only canonized last year? That happened fast...
Do they suspect his remains were stolen due to finding so little of it at his gravesite? I read that a different kind of soil than the surrounding graveyard was on top of the site which almost makes it sound as if the body had been exhumed and the hole filled in. And the forensic experts said not enough time had passed for the bones to completely disappear, or the handles of his coffin shouldn't have still been there as well.
 
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He was only canonized last year? That happened fast...
Do they suspect his remains were stolen due to finding so little of it at his gravesite? I read that a different kind of soil than the surrounding graveyard was on top of the site which almost makes it sound as if the body had been exhumed and the hole filled in. And the forensic experts said not enough time had passed for the bones to completely disappear, or the handles of his coffin shouldn't have still been there as well.
Yes he was canonized last year. The article quoted a forensics expert saying the decomposition was not surprising given the damp soil.
 
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Yes he was canonized last year. The article quoted a forensics expert saying the decomposition was not surprising given the damp soil.
Oh okay. The Wikipedia article also said that someone else suggested the bones shouldn't have actually disappeared that quickly or the handles should have been gone, too. But I don't think that's accurate. Metal lasts much longer in damp soil than bones will or we'd find tons of bones when digging, yet we only find a few perhaps.

Also interesting to read about his close friendship with Ambrose St. John and the way in which the contemporary world of course tries to interpret it... :sigh: I long for a time when close friendship between men is no longer made out to be something improper. It's really ridiculous and suffocating. Friendship between men can be a powerful tool for good, so it doesn't surprise me that satan is actively trying to stop it from happening or make it seem awkward or forbidden.
 
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Oh okay. The Wikipedia article also said that someone else suggested the bones shouldn't have actually disappeared that quickly or the handles should have been gone, too. But I don't think that's accurate. Metal lasts much longer in damp soil than bones will or we'd find tons of bones when digging, yet we only find a few perhaps.

Also interesting to read about his close friendship with Ambrose St. John and the way in which the contemporary world of course tries to interpret it... :sigh: I long for a time when close friendship between men is no longer made out to be something improper. It's really ridiculous and suffocating. Friendship between men can be a powerful tool for good, so it doesn't surprise me that satan is actively trying to stop it from happening or make it seem awkward or forbidden.
Nobody is off limits. Everything is defined by sex. Look at David and Jonathan, Naomi and Ruth and the implications thrown on them.
 
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Nobody is off limits. Everything is defined by sex. Look at David and Jonathan, Naomi and Ruth and the implications thrown on them.
Exactly. Drives me crazy. But I don't want to hijack this thread... Sorry. ^_^
 
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I dont think much of relics myself. I think they should all be buried and left alone and people should concentrate on the Cross of Jesus instead.

Agree - saving body parts of people is an odd thing. They should be respectfully buried, and left alone. To get a bone chip you have to actually take someone apart - just a very weird thing to do.
 
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