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Daniel 7:18 But the saints of the most High shall take the kingdom, and possess the kingdom for ever, even for ever and ever.
Let's start with verse 18----But the saints of the most High shall take the kingdom, and possess the kingdom for ever, even for ever and ever.
The question is, when shall they take the kingdom, and possess the kingdom for ever, even for ever and ever?
Daniel 7:19 Then I would know the truth of the fourth beast, which was diverse from all the others, exceeding dreadful, whose teeth were of iron, and his nails of brass; which devoured, brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with his feet;
20 And of the ten horns that were in his head, and of the other which came up, and before whom three fell; even of that horn that had eyes, and a mouth that spake very great things, whose look was more stout than his fellows.
21 I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed against them;
Daniel 7:23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.
24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.
25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.
According to these verses above, does it look like the saints of the most High have already taken the kingdom, thus possessing the kingdom for ever, even for ever and ever, during any of these events recorded in the above verses?
I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed against them---And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time---does it look like verse 18 has already been fulfilled during the time of verse 21 which apparently is meaning verse 25 as well? Does not verse 25 give us the length of verse 21, that being until a time and times and the dividing of time?
Does not verse 22 tell us when verse 18 is initially fulfilled?
22 Until the Ancient of days came, and judgment was given to the saints of the most High; and the time came that the saints possessed the kingdom.
What happens to this little horn at the time, once verse 22 is initially fulfilled? Is it not the following?
Daniel 7:11 I beheld then because of the voice of the great words which the horn spake: I beheld even till the beast was slain, and his body destroyed, and given to the burning flame.
What happens to the 4th beast once the little horn is given to the burning flame?
Some will tell us all of Daniel 7 has already been fulfilled ages ago. Others will tell us verse 18 and 22 have been fulfilled ages ago, while telling us that Daniel 7:11 is yet to be fulfilled.
The question is, what is Daniel 7 telling us? Is it telling us the same things some of these others are telling us it is telling us? I think not. Obviously the initial fulfillment of verse 22 is in the end of this age and not ages ago instead. That means verse 18 hasn't even been fulfilled yet.
Revelation 13:3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.
6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
Does it sound like Daniel 7:18 has already been fulfilled according to these verses above? How can verse 5 above not be meaning verse 21 and verse 25 in Daniel 7?
If Daniel 7:22 is yet to be fulfilled, what does that plainly tell us about the timing of the thousand years in Revelation 20? Does it not tell us, if Daniel 7:22 is yet to be fulfilled, then so must the thousand years in Revelation 20 be yet to be fulfilled?
Let's start with verse 18----But the saints of the most High shall take the kingdom, and possess the kingdom for ever, even for ever and ever.
The question is, when shall they take the kingdom, and possess the kingdom for ever, even for ever and ever?
Daniel 7:19 Then I would know the truth of the fourth beast, which was diverse from all the others, exceeding dreadful, whose teeth were of iron, and his nails of brass; which devoured, brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with his feet;
20 And of the ten horns that were in his head, and of the other which came up, and before whom three fell; even of that horn that had eyes, and a mouth that spake very great things, whose look was more stout than his fellows.
21 I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed against them;
Daniel 7:23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.
24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.
25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.
According to these verses above, does it look like the saints of the most High have already taken the kingdom, thus possessing the kingdom for ever, even for ever and ever, during any of these events recorded in the above verses?
I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed against them---And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time---does it look like verse 18 has already been fulfilled during the time of verse 21 which apparently is meaning verse 25 as well? Does not verse 25 give us the length of verse 21, that being until a time and times and the dividing of time?
Does not verse 22 tell us when verse 18 is initially fulfilled?
22 Until the Ancient of days came, and judgment was given to the saints of the most High; and the time came that the saints possessed the kingdom.
What happens to this little horn at the time, once verse 22 is initially fulfilled? Is it not the following?
Daniel 7:11 I beheld then because of the voice of the great words which the horn spake: I beheld even till the beast was slain, and his body destroyed, and given to the burning flame.
What happens to the 4th beast once the little horn is given to the burning flame?
Some will tell us all of Daniel 7 has already been fulfilled ages ago. Others will tell us verse 18 and 22 have been fulfilled ages ago, while telling us that Daniel 7:11 is yet to be fulfilled.
The question is, what is Daniel 7 telling us? Is it telling us the same things some of these others are telling us it is telling us? I think not. Obviously the initial fulfillment of verse 22 is in the end of this age and not ages ago instead. That means verse 18 hasn't even been fulfilled yet.
Revelation 13:3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.
6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
Does it sound like Daniel 7:18 has already been fulfilled according to these verses above? How can verse 5 above not be meaning verse 21 and verse 25 in Daniel 7?
If Daniel 7:22 is yet to be fulfilled, what does that plainly tell us about the timing of the thousand years in Revelation 20? Does it not tell us, if Daniel 7:22 is yet to be fulfilled, then so must the thousand years in Revelation 20 be yet to be fulfilled?
