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thankyou sir for entering this debate, I will see if I can help out here. Just stay calm, and be open minded that is all I ask. If it gets heated in the debate I typically have to bow out. So what you are saying here I think....is that there are other verses that mention the trinity. And you are correct. However there are no verses that mention all three members of the trinity, and "prove" it. For example there is a verse in genesis that says "let us make man in our image." That can be a proof of the trinity, but lets just play the devils advocate for example, most jewish scholars look at elohim, not as a plurality but as a majestic term for God. For instance when a king or queen would say "let us decend upon the people." For example. I don't know about that verse, it very well could be a proof of the trinity, but it could be referring to Just God the father and God the son. It may not even mention the Holy Spirit, and there are no other verses that mention all three members of the Trinity being one, other than that example. But 1 John 5:7-9 does prove the trinity in one verse. It's the only one that does that.We've also got these verses:
Colossians 2:9
For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form,
John 1:14
The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and tJOruth.
John 10:30
I and the Father are one.
And we've also got these passages:
John 14:16-17
16And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another advocate to help you and be with you forever— 17the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be c in you.
1 Peter 1:1-2
1Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ,
To God’s elect, exiles scattered throughout the provinces of Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia and Bithynia, 2who have been chosen according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through the sanctifying work of the Spirit, to be obedient to Jesus Christ and sprinkled with his blood:
Grace and peace be yours in abundance.
1 Corinthians 12:4-6
4There are different kinds of gifts, but the same Spirit distributes them. 5There are different kinds of service, but the same Lord. 6There are different kinds of working, but in all of them and in everyone it is the same God at work.
So, if you are going to claim to be such an expert on the Bible, I suggest you actually study it and learn the verses in it. It wasn't that difficult to research and find these verses.
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