Is it Ethical to be fired for stating Christian beliefs

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She didn't say it

isn't that called lying?
OK we are going around in circles now. Like I said I will drop the direct link for the sake of moving things on. My point is that some climate activists use the same logic as some Christians with sin when accusing and condemning present and past generations lifestyles for causing the disasters that are happening as a result of climate change like the bush fires, floods and massive storms. They are singling out people and condemning their lifestyle and telling them that the disasters are punishment for their lifestyles. The same logic as some Christians do.
 
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Now before you jump onboard and say 'Of course its ethical' consider the current case that has dominated Australian media and Australian sport in particular.
Does the question include the idea/ seeking if it is something Christian, righteous to do or experience?

"Ethics", per se, is a worldly valuation-system, not Spiritual nor Christian in Yahweh's Way and Scripture.
 
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OK we are going around in circles now. Like I said I will drop the direct link for the sake of moving things on. My point is that some climate activists use the same logic as some Christians with sin when accusing and condemning present and past generations lifestyles for causing the disasters that are happening as a result of climate change like the bush fires, floods and massive storms. They are singling out people and condemning their lifestyle and telling them that the disasters are punishment for their lifestyles. The same logic as some Christians do.

The difference is that there is a direct causal link between some behaviours/lifestyles and climate change; there is no direct causal link between homosexuality or same-sex marriage and bushfires.
 
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Does the question include the idea/ seeking if it is something Christian, righteous to do or experience?

"Ethics", per se, is a worldly valuation-system, not Spiritual nor Christian in Yahweh's Way and Scripture.
I don't understand what your are arguing
 
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He should not be sacked. He is stating the facts. He ought to be honored for stating the facts than sacked.

I can never be as brave as he is. I compromise my christian walk because I am afraid of the consequences. But I will never let my own compromises be an excuse for me to judge a holy saint's uncompromising stand for God.

So I applaud his actions.
 
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The difference is that there is a direct causal link between some behaviours/lifestyles and climate change; there is no direct causal link between homosexuality or same-sex marriage and bushfires.
There is also no causal link between adulterers, fornicators and drunks that he mentions. What I think people are misconstruing is that I don't think Folau was singling out gays. His message was to sinners in general and he names several sins. It was the media who edited things to only focus on gays and abortion. These are sensitive topics so they are easy to use to provoke reactions.

So in that sense what he and other preachers are saying is that sin is the cause of the destruction of society/humans and the environment and not gays, drunks or fornicators. Just like in the bible when God judged Pharaoh and other nations for their sin and reined plagues and disasters on them some believe that this has been happening.

So the sin of sexual immorality, fornication, adultery causes problems like relationship, family and community breakdowns and abortion. The sin of anger, pride, theft and covertness causes disputes, conflicts and war within communities and between nations. The sin of materialism, selfishness, money causes the destruction of the environment through climate change.

Folau and others like him are simply saying what preachers have said for many years that sin leads to the breakdown of society. I happen to disagree with his approach but we should not be surprised that some people preach this way. So my question is do they have a right to preach this or does society put some bans in place.
 
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Steve that is false. In his video, he referred to SSM and abortion and highlighted that this was connected o the bushfires. If you had listened to his video you'd know that - Or perhaps you do and are deliberately being misleading. Did you play his sermon?

It's odd how you said you don't support his stance - Have then subsequently made numerous posts about climate change and Thunberg which is completely off topic - but a common method of deflection - and now you are back to the same ol' "na what he says is fine."

So lets hear it Steve - Is it OK to connect gays to the bushfires or NOT?
 
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There is also no causal link between adulterers, fornicators and drunks that he mentions. What I think people are misconstruing is that I don't think Folau was singling out gays. His message was to sinners in general and he names several sins. It was the media who edited things to only focus on gays and abortion. These are sensitive topics so they are easy to use to provoke reactions.

So in that sense what he and other preachers are saying is that sin is the cause of the destruction of society/humans and the environment and not gays, drunks or fornicators. Just like in the bible when God judged Pharaoh and other nations for their sin and reined plagues and disasters on them some believe that this has been happening.

So the sin of sexual immorality, fornication, adultery causes problems like relationship, family and community breakdowns and abortion. The sin of anger, pride, theft and covertness causes disputes, conflicts and war within communities and between nations. The sin of materialism, selfishness, money causes the destruction of the environment through climate change.

Folau and others like him are simply saying what preachers have said for many years that sin leads to the breakdown of society. I happen to disagree with his approach but we should not be surprised that some people preach this way. So my question is do they have a right to preach this or does society put some bans in place.

Can you define sexual immorality and where you achieved that knowledge?
 
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You're wrong . Kant based the ethics principle on Christian philosophy. That said, every action we take is of this world so.... Its a redundant statement
so? he was not Biblical in life, nor was his source Yahweh. ethics that anyone uses in the flesh system are not Biblical, not of Yahweh.
 
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So my question is do they have a right to preach this or does society put some bans in place.

I think we're going down a very dangerous path once we try to say what people can and can't say when they're preaching.

But the rest of us can certainly say that something like this is, exegetically and hermeneutically, theologically and ethically, pastorally and missionally, bad preaching.
 
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So my question is do they have a right to preach this or does society put some bans in place.
As in the NT, no society has a say so in what the men of Yahweh speak, preach, or practice, when Yahweh directs the men .....
Remember: "We must obey Yahweh, rather than man", when it comes to a choice of the two.
 
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