Since I was a teenager back in the '70's I have believed in the saints being largely on a restored earth with the descendants of those who survive the Great Tribulation.
Revelation 9:6 21st Century King James Version (KJ21)Aging Expert: The First Person to Live
to 1,000 Has Already Been Born
Aging expert: the first person to live to 1,000 has already been born
Keep in mind that Satan wants to claim rightful ownership to rule this world. In doing so, his team of "principalities and power" genius demons are trying desperately to find ways to set up its own utopian millennial reign before the Lord returns.
Keep in mind that Satan wants to claim rightful ownership to rule this world. In doing so, his team of "principalities and power" genius demons are trying desperately to find ways to set up its own utopian millennial reign before the Lord returns.
They are the reason why maturing Christians face persecutions. For the presence of informed believers always throws a wrench into their schemes designed to deceive the masses. Its why we see promises of socialism ... even Nazism and communism offered as solutions to man's problems. And, if they can defeat (with delusion) man's fear of dying, for a long enough time, they wish to establish Satan on the throne of this earth to prove Lucifer's initial claim of being able to make himself like the Most High as valid.
Its one of the reasons why Satan and his angels are not yet in the Lake of Fire. For, God has allowed for Satan to try to prove himself worthy and justified in his rebellion. In the mean time. God has his faithful few who will always being able to think with the Word of God, in a manner that exposes the sham that the plans of Satan to redeem himself really are. Its another reason why the secular world hates Christianity.
People will live to be a 1000 years old in the Millennium because the Lord will restore the perfect balance to the earth once more. That includes weather and climate.... and disease controlled to keep men alive and happy. Satan can only try to produce drugs and nutrients in attempt to extend human life. But, it takes more than that. It takes the entire package of the earth's functions that only the Lord has the power to restore.
Keep in mind that until Noah's flood it never rained. That water sprinkled up from the ground to water the plants. The atmosphere was entirely different and men lived to be 900 years old in those days.
Now no shrub had yet appeared on the earth and no plant had yet sprung up,
for the Lord God had not sent rain on the earth and there was no one to work
the ground, but streams/mist came up from the earth and watered the whole
surface of the ground." Gen 2:5-6
Man's life will be extended during the Millennium because of perfect climate and perfect food and water... As God intended it to be when originally created.
grace and peace...
You say Satan wants to claim his "rightful" ownership to rule this world". Can you explain?Keep in mind that Satan wants to claim rightful ownership to rule this world. In doing so, his team of "principalities and power" genius demons are trying desperately to find ways to set up its own utopian millennial reign before the Lord returns.
They are the reason why maturing Christians face persecutions. For the presence of informed believers always throws a wrench into their schemes designed to deceive the masses. Its why we see promises of socialism ... even Nazism and communism offered as solutions to man's problems. And, if they can defeat (with delusion) man's fear of dying, for a long enough time, they wish to establish Satan on the throne of this earth to prove Lucifer's initial claim of being able to make himself like the Most High as valid.
Its one of the reasons why Satan and his angels are not yet in the Lake of Fire. For, God has allowed for Satan to try to prove himself worthy and justified in his rebellion. In the mean time. God has his faithful few who will always being able to think with the Word of God, in a manner that exposes the sham that the plans of Satan to redeem himself really are. Its another reason why the secular world hates Christianity.
People will live to be a 1000 years old in the Millennium because the Lord will restore the perfect balance to the earth once more. That includes weather and climate.... and disease controlled to keep men alive and happy. Satan can only try to produce drugs and nutrients in attempt to extend human life. But, it takes more than that. It takes the entire package of the earth's functions that only the Lord has the power to restore.
Keep in mind that until Noah's flood it never rained. That water sprinkled up from the ground to water the plants. The atmosphere was entirely different and men lived to be 900 years old in those days.
Now no shrub had yet appeared on the earth and no plant had yet sprung up,
for the Lord God had not sent rain on the earth and there was no one to work
the ground, but streams/mist came up from the earth and watered the whole
surface of the ground." Gen 2:5-6
Man's life will be extended during the Millennium because of perfect climate and perfect food and water... As God intended it to be when originally created.
grace and peace...
He offered the kingdoms of the world to Jesus in Matthew 4. God has for a season granted Satan the right to prove himself worthy to be prince of this world. For when Satan brought about the fall of Adam and knocked Adam off his throne given by God? Satan at that point felt he proved himself more worthy than Adam to have dominion.You say Satan wants to claim his "rightful" ownership to rule this world". Can you explain?
Turtles seem to be able to live over 300 years, and with medicine understanding
the problems better, we might be able to match that.
I don't know the timetable, but eventually the new Earth will be our home.Since I was a teenager back in the '70's I have believed in the saints being largely on a restored earth with the descendants of those who survive the Great Tribulation.
Matthew 5
Mat 5:5
"Blessed are the meek,
For they shall inherit the earth."
Psa 37:11
"But the meek shall inherit the earth,
And shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace."
Revelation 5
Rev 5:10
"And have made us kings and priests to our God;
And we shall reign on the earth.”
Isaiah 11
And there shall come forth a shoot out of the stock of Jesse, and a branch out of his roots shall bear fruit.
2 And the Spirit of Jehovah shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of Jehovah.
3 And his delight shall be in the fear of Jehovah; and he shall not judge after the sight of his eyes, neither decide after the hearing of his ears; 4 but with righteousness shall he judge the poor, and decide with equity for the meek of the earth; and he shall smite the earth with the rod of his mouth; and with the breath of his lips shall he slay the wicked.
5 And righteousness shall be the girdle of his waist, and faithfulness the girdle of his loins.
6 And the wolf shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.
7 And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together; and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.
8 And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the adder's den.
9 They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain; for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of Jehovah, as the waters cover the sea.
Now I admit that this subject is somewhat complex because it is clearly predicted that after Messiah Yeshua - Jesus reigns over the earth for one thousand years then...... even the Ancient of Days the Father comes down to the earth so in a sense..... earth becomes heaven..... I think?!
I don't know the timetable, but eventually the new Earth will be our home.
Um, how's that? If I die, I will be a resurrected believer, and part of the church.
Not following, really. I have never seen this is scripture.All believers in the future will be resurrected. But only the Church... His "Bride," will have a body just like His own.
The resurrection bodies of all other believers who are not the Church, will have bodies that will live forever, but not of the same kind of exact body as the glorious body owned by the Lord Himself.
Our resurrection bodies will be of Heaven.
The first man was of the dust of the earth;
the second man is of heaven." 1 Cor 15:47
All other believers who lived outside of the Church age, will have their eternal home on the new earth. Their bodies will consist of the elements of that new earth, like Adam's was of this earth. But, ours? It will have a heavenly body - a glorious body - just like The Lord Jesus Christ is manifested in forever more.
But our citizenship is in heaven. And we eagerly await a Savior
from there, the Lord Jesus Christ, who, by the power that enables
him to bring everything under his control, will transform our lowly
bodies so that they will be like his glorious body." Philpns 3:20-21
Not following, really. I have never seen this is scripture.
The new earth will be the home of all OT saints and Millennium saints in their resurrection bodies.
Jesus told us that He prepared a home for His Bride in Heaven!
“Do not let your hearts be troubled. You believe in God;
believe also in me. My Father’s house has many rooms;
if that were not so, would I have told you that I am going
there to prepare a place for you? And if I go and prepare
a place for you, I will come back and take you to be
with me that you also may be where I am. Jn 14:1-3
We will commute and reign over the earth with the Lord. But, His throne is in Heaven. He will have a throne to sit on on earth (the throne of David) as to rule the earth for 1000 years, and forever on earth. But our home (citizenship) is in Heaven! We will have unique resurrection bodies different form the OT and Millennium resurrection bodies... We are the Bride. They are not.
But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation,God's special possession, that you may declare
the praises of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light." 1 Pet 2:9
But our citizenship is in heaven (not the new earth).
And we eagerly await a Savior from there, the Lord Jesus Christ. Phipns 3:20
We (the church) will reign with Christ in our resurrection bodies. The people on the new eternal earth will be reigned over by the Lord and His Bride. There is a big difference between the Church and all other resurrected believers throughout history.
Or.... could the coming down of the New Jerusalem....... make the fully restored earth...... heaven?
Revelation 21
And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth are passed away; and the sea is no more.
2 And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven of God, made ready as a bride adorned for her husband.
3 And I heard a great voice out of the throne saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he shall dwell with them, and they shall be his peoples, and God himself shall be with them, [and be] their God: 4 and he shall wipe away every tear from their eyes; and death shall be no more; neither shall there be mourning, nor crying, nor pain, any more: the first things are passed away.
5 And he that sitteth on the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he saith, Write: for these words are faithful and true.
6 And he said unto me, They are come to pass. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.
7 He that overcometh shall inherit these things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.
8 But for the fearful, and unbelieving, and abominable, and murderers, and fornicators, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, their part [shall be] in the lake that burneth with fire and brimstone; which is the second death.
9 And there came one of the seven angels who had the seven bowls, who were laden with the seven last plagues; and he spake with me, saying, Come hither, I will show thee the bride, the wife of the Lamb.
10 And he carried me away in the Spirit to a mountain great and high, and showed me the holy city Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, 11 having the glory of God: her light was like unto a stone most precious, as it were a jasper stone, clear as crystal: 12 having a wall great and high; having twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels; and names written thereon, which are [the names] of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel: 13 on the east were three gates; and on the north three gates; and on the south three gates; and on the west three gates.
14 And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and on them twelve names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.
15 And he that spake with me had for a measure a golden reed to measure the city, and the gates thereof, and the wall thereof.
16 And the city lieth foursquare, and the length thereof is as great as the breadth: and he measured the city with the reed, twelve thousand furlongs: the length and the breadth and the height thereof are equal.
17 And he measured the wall thereof, a hundred and forty and four cubits, [according to] the measure of a man, that is, of an angel.
18 And the building of the wall thereof was jasper: and the city was pure gold, like unto pure glass.
ThanksHe offered the kingdoms of the world to Jesus in Matthew 4. God has for a season granted Satan the right to prove himself worthy to be prince of this world. For when Satan brought about the fall of Adam and knocked Adam off his throne given by God? Satan at that point felt he proved himself more worthy than Adam to have dominion.
Its also why Satan appeared with the other angels in the book of Job. He was there to try to vindicate himself by proving Job would curse the Lord to his face (like Lucifer did to the Lord) if Job got treated the way the Lord disciplined Lucifer in the Lord's attempt to make Lucifer repent. Instead of repenting, Lucifer cursed the Lord to his face. Lucifer always felt that anyone else would have done the same thing if they were made to hurt the way the Lord made Lucifer hurt while disciplining him as a son... Well? The Lord sadly allowed Satan to hurt Job. One big difference. Job did not deserve the suffering like Lucifer did. Just the same.. Job put Satan to shame. Another notch in Satan's appeal case was put to rest when Jon refused to curse God.
Its very interesting to be shown what is going on behind the scenes. It begins to make sense why Satan and his demons have been granted time before judgement, while Satan's appeal (as his own attorney) continues to the point when every excuse Satan has to offer becomes squashed and buried by God's righteousness. God uses us as his witnesses, like Job was called to bear testimony before God and angels.