Who will populate the earth in the 1000 year Reign

Dave L · Feb 1, 2020

Josheb said:
Is Jesus cuurently in the Kingdom of God?

Jesus is God so yes.

Jesus presently reigns from David's Throne in Heavenly Jerusalem. “Therefore [David} being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne; He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.” (Acts 2:30–31)

“And when thy days [David] be fulfilled, and thou shalt sleep with thy fathers, I will set up thy seed after thee, which shall proceed out of thy bowels, and I will establish his kingdom. He shall build an house for my name, and I will stablish the throne of his kingdom for ever.” 2 Samuel 7:12–13 (KJV 1900)

Notice this takes place while David is still buried. The resurrection happens of earth's last day. So it is now.

Also consider Jesus said his kingdom comes without observation. And unless a person is born again they cannot see it. There is more but this rules out any physical millennial kingdom.

dms1972 · Feb 1, 2020

35But someone will ask, “How are the dead raised? With what kind of body will they come?” 36You fool! What you sow does not come to life unless it dies.… !

Corthinians 15:35

dms1972 · Feb 1, 2020

“And when thy days [David] be fulfilled, and thou shalt sleep with thy fathers, I will set up thy seed after thee, which shall proceed out of thy bowels, and I will establish his kingdom. He shall build an house for my name, and I will stablish the throne of his kingdom for ever.” 2 Samuel 7:12–13 (KJV 1900)

This is refers to King Solomon, is that correct?

Dave L · Feb 1, 2020

dms1972 said:
“And when thy days [David] be fulfilled, and thou shalt sleep with thy fathers, I will set up thy seed after thee, which shall proceed out of thy bowels, and I will establish his kingdom. He shall build an house for my name, and I will stablish the throne of his kingdom for ever.” 2 Samuel 7:12–13 (KJV 1900)

This is refers to King Solomon, is that correct?

It refers to Jesus whose kingdom is forever. Solomon was one of the links God used to produce Christ.

dms1972 · Feb 1, 2020

OK so it had present and future significance, the following verses refer to Solomon. But ultimately the reference is the Christ. Isn't that the way it is, there is a Now and a Not yet involved in the Message of the Kingdom? Anyway this is way over my head in some respects.

Before going further it might be worth finding out what exactly the OP is asking. Are they having some difficulty. We seem to be all over the place here? Clarity of what is being asked is needed before attempting an answer maybe?

Sometimes a christian begins a question from a misunderstanding,

But now there is no Millenium apparently , sorry I'll have to test that by
Scriptures, I seem to recall one, whether symbolic or literal I know not, but yes definitely seem to recall 1000 years being mentioned symbolically or in some sense.

Ah found it: Revelation chapter 20 - glad I checked.

Original Happy Camper · Feb 1, 2020

sovereigngrace said:
The Kingdom of God is the same as the Kingdom of heaven

Dispensationalists attempt to differentiate between the biblical terms “the kingdom of heaven” and “the kingdom of God.” They argue that these kingdoms differ in their character, focus and realisation. However, an elementary comparison between the two in the New Testament will show that “the kingdom of heaven” and “the kingdom of God” are just similar expressions to describe the one same Kingdom.

The term “the kingdom of God” refers to the One from whom it originates, whereas, the term “the kingdom of heaven” describes the place where it is centred. Notwithstanding, they both unequivocally allude to the one glorious eternal kingdom and Almighty God who sovereignly reigns from heaven. The evidence to back up such a supposition is absolute, and can be supported by a wealth of proof in the Gospels. These terms being frequently used and interchanged in (1) the same reference, (2) similar references, and (3) identical references, to describe this Divine spiritual Kingdom.

1. The same passage

Matthew records Christ using both terms in the one passage when describing His Kingdom: “Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven. And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God” (19:23-24).

These two terms are here used in the same context to describe the same kingly realm. The subject of this reading is the difficulty that the rich have in entering the kingdom of heaven (the kingdom of God). Anyone trying to base a theology on the difference between the two synonymous terms is strongly rebutted by this clear reading.

2. Similar passages

Alluding to the simplicity of the faith, Christ made similar statements, whilst in different circumstances, to explain the same eternal kingdom. Once again, He interchanges the terms ‘the kingdom of God’ and ‘the kingdom of heaven’ to describe His everlasting spiritual Kingdom.

(a) In Matthew 18:1-4, Christ is seen rebuking the disciples who were foolishly debating who were the greatest among them. In verse 2, and in response to their dispute, we see Christ calling “a little child unto him, and set him in the midst of them.”

The Master then said, “Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven. Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven.”

In a similar passage in Mark 10:15, Christ refers to the kingdom whilst once again rebuking the disciples, only this time it was for trying to stop the little children coming unto Himself. Only, in this encounter, He employs the matching term ‘the kingdom of God’, saying, “Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child, he shall not enter therein.”

The circumstances may have been slightly different yet the message was still the same. Nowhere in Christ teaching is there the slightest licence to make any distinction between these terms. Again we find the kingdom of God to be synonymous with the kingdom of heaven!

(b) Christ, teaching on the parable of the sower declares, in Matthew 13:24-26, 30, “The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field: But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way. But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also.” Christ concluded, “Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.”

In a similar, yet distinct passage, in Mark 4:25-29, Christ taught the disciples of the natural law of the harvest, saying, “he that hath, to him shall be given: and he that hath not, from him shall be taken even that which he hath. And he said, So is the kingdom of God, as if a man should cast seed into the ground; And should sleep, and rise night and day, and the seed should spring and grow up, he knoweth not how. For the earth bringeth forth fruit of herself; first the blade, then the ear, after that the full corn in the ear. But when the fruit is brought forth, immediately he putteth in the sickle, because the harvest is come.”

3. Parallel passages

This teaching is completely exposed by analysing, and comparing, the apostles record of the very same teaching on the very same occasion. There, the apostles testimony of the corresponding instances and same utterances of the Saviour are interchanged between the term “the kingdom of heaven” and the term “the kingdom of God.” Thus, clearly showing that the two terms are synonymous.

The following are some examples.

Example A

We see in different places that the kingdom is said to be “at hand.”

Matthew 4:12, 17 records, “Now when Jesus had heard that John was cast into prison, he departed into Galilee…From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.”

Mark 1:14-15 records, “Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God, And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand.”

Again, the terms ‘kingdom of God’ and ‘kingdom of heaven’ are interchanged in these passages while describing the one spiritual kingdom.

Example B

Jesus said, in Matthew 11:12, “And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven ‘suffereth violence’ (or biazo), and the violent take it by force.”

Jesus said, in Luke 16:16, “The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man ‘presseth’ (or biazetai – or suffereth violence) into it.”

Example C

Matthew 10:5-14 records the disciples commission, “These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them…as ye go, preach, saying, the kingdom of heaven is at hand. Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give. Provide neither gold, nor silver, nor brass in your purses, Nor scrip for your journey, neither two coats, neither shoes, nor yet staves: for the workman is worthy of his meat.”

Luke 9:1-6 records, “Then he called his twelve disciples together, and gave them power and authority over all devils, and to cure diseases. And he sent them to preach the kingdom of God, and to heal the sick. And he said unto them, Take nothing for your journey, neither staves, nor scrip, neither bread, neither money; neither have two coats apiece.”

Example D

After expounding the parable of the sower, the twelve disciples asked Christ why He explained His teaching in parables. Matthew and Mark then record the Lord’s response.

Jesus said, in Matthew 13:11, “it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven.”

Jesus said, in Mark 4:11, “Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God.”

Example E

Matthew’s account of the beatitudes in 5:3-6, records Jesus saying, “Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted. Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth. Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled.”

Luke’s account of Christ’s sermon, in Luke 6:20-21, records, “Blessed be ye poor: for yours is the kingdom of God. Blessed are ye that hunger now: for ye shall be filled. Blessed are ye that weep now: for ye shall laugh.”

Example F

Jesus said, in Matthew 13:31, “the kingdom of heaven is like to a grain of mustard seed, which a man took, and sowed in his field.”

Jesus said, in Mark 4:30-31, “Whereunto shall we liken the kingdom of God? or with what comparison shall we compare it? It is like a grain of mustard seed, which, when it is sown in the earth, is less than all the seeds that be in the earth.”

Example G

Jesus said, in Matthew 13:33, “the kingdom of heaven is like unto leaven, which a woman took, and hid in three measures of meal, till the whole was leavened.”

Jesus said, in Luke 13:20-21, “Whereunto shall I liken the kingdom of God? It is like leaven, which a woman took and hid in three measures of meal, till the whole was leavened.”

Example H

Whilst we have previously quoted similar incidents where Christ advanced the same teaching on the subject of children and the kingdom (proving how the two terms are interchangeable), the following quotes are made of the same occasion.

Jesus said in Matthew 19:14, “Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven.”

Jesus said in Mark 10:14, “Suffer the little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God.”

Example I

Speaking of the future consummation of the Kingdom, Jesus said, in Matthew 8:11, “And I say unto you, That many shall come from the east and west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven.”

Luke’s account, in chapter 13:28-29, records, “ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out. And they shall come from the east, and from the west, and from the north, and from the south, and shall sit down in the kingdom of God.”

CONCLUSION

It is plain to see from comparing these parallel accounts in the gospels that “the kingdom of heaven” and “the kingdom of God” are the same. In these phrases, the word heaven is a metonym for God. A metonymy is a figure of speech in which one word or phrase is substituted for another with which it is closely associated.

Great example of Isaiah 28:10

For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:

food4thought · Feb 1, 2020

sovereigngrace said:
I could not find one single Scripture that describes (1) a rapture of the Church, (2) immediately followed by a literal seven-year tribulation, (3) immediately followed by a further Coming of Christ. There is not one proof text in the sacred text. I felt cheated. When I started to look at premillennialism, I saw one proof text, Revelation 20, but I could not find any corroboration from what I have been taught. Rather the opposite. Every second coming passage was climactic.

Hi again, sovereigngrace!

I think you are selling the dispensational view short. I am not saying that there is a single passage that describes the whole scenario, but the idea permeates both the OT and NT. The rapture of the church is found primarily in 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18, as I am sure you are aware. As for the timing of the rapture, I can make an extremely strong case for it to be different than the 2nd coming... observe:

The 2nd coming will occur on the heals of great tribulation, the likes of which are so severe that if it was not shortened "no flesh would be saved".

Matthew 24:15-31 NASB "Therefore when you see the ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION which was spoken of through Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place (let the reader understand), (16) then those who are in Judea must flee to the mountains. (17) "Whoever is on the housetop must not go down to get the things out that are in his house. (18) "Whoever is in the field must not turn back to get his cloak. (19) "But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days! (20) "But pray that your flight will not be in the winter, or on a Sabbath. (21) "For then there will be a great tribulation, such as has not occurred since the beginning of the world until now, nor ever will. (22) "Unless those days had been cut short, no life would have been saved; but for the sake of the elect those days will be cut short. (23) "Then if anyone says to you, 'Behold, here is the Christ,' or 'There He is,' do not believe him. (24) "For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will show great signs and wonders, so as to mislead, if possible, even the elect. (25) "Behold, I have told you in advance. (26) "So if they say to you, 'Behold, He is in the wilderness,' do not go out, or, 'Behold, He is in the inner rooms,' do not believe them. (27) "For just as the lightning comes from the east and flashes even to the west, so will the coming of the Son of Man be. (28) "Wherever the corpse is, there the vultures will gather. (29) "But immediately after the tribulation of those days THE SUN WILL BE DARKENED, AND THE MOON WILL NOT GIVE ITS LIGHT, AND THE STARS WILL FALL from the sky, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. (30) "And then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the SON OF MAN COMING ON THE CLOUDS OF THE SKY with power and great glory. (31) "And He will send forth His angels with A GREAT TRUMPET and THEY WILL GATHER TOGETHER His elect from the four winds, from one end of the sky to the other.

As we can see, this time will be anything but business as usual, with clear and unmistakable signs preceding it. Yet later in the same chapter, Jesus speaks of His coming for His saints as coming "like a thief", and a time when people will be living life normally like the days before the flood.

Matthew 24:36-42 NASB "But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone. (37) "For the coming of the Son of Man will be just like the days of Noah. (38) "For as in those days before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, (39) and they did not understand until the flood came and took them all away; so will the coming of the Son of Man be. (40) "Then there will be two men in the field; one will be taken and one will be left. (41) "Two women will be grinding at the mill; one will be taken and one will be left. (42) "Therefore be on the alert, for you do not know which day your Lord is coming.

There is no way these two passages could be describing the same event! "Today is a great day for marriage", they might say, "since 100lb hailstones are falling from the sky" (Revelation 16:21). I would be interested in hearing how you reconcile that. As for me, I am utterly convinced that the rapture precedes the great tribulation by some period of time.

Out of time for now, but I will address more of your post soon.

God bless;
Michael

Andrewn · Feb 1, 2020

sovereigngrace said:
The classic Amillennial position is a lot more popular than Preterism. I’m talking about historicism and idealism within Amillennialism. It sees ongoing fulfillment between the first advent and the second advent.

How about if we say that classic Amil is a mixture of historicist, idealist, and partial preterits views in different ratios for different people?

Andrewn · Feb 1, 2020

Josheb said:
Yes to the first five questions,

Josheb said:
I was just falsely accused of five things I do not believe.

Isn't there a contradiction between the above statements?

Josheb said:
I am not a full-preterist

Josheb said:
Jesus comes many times in many ways for many reasons. There is not specific mention of a "Second Coming" in the Bible and all the various mentions of Jesus coming again should not be treated as a single event.

Isn't there contradiction between the above statements?

Maria Billingsley · Feb 1, 2020

dms1972 said:
I am not familiar with all the views on A-millenialism, but isn't it the Saints in Heaven who reign with Christ under that interpretive scheme? Happy to be further informed scripturally, and theologically on that aspect.

Jesus Christ of Nazareth is King to the living and the dead which includes the souls of the Saints who are in heaven.

sovereigngrace · Feb 1, 2020

dms1972 said:
OK so it had present and future significance, the following verses refer to Solomon. But ultimately the reference is the Christ. Isn't that the way it is, there is a Now and a Not yet involved in the Message of the Kingdom? Anyway this is way over my head in some respects.

Before going further it might be worth finding out what exactly the OP is asking. Are they having some difficulty. We seem to be all over the place here? Clarity of what is being asked is needed before attempting an answer maybe?

Sometimes a christian begins a question from a misunderstanding,

But now there is no Millenium apparently , sorry I'll have to test that by
Scriptures, I seem to recall one, whether symbolic or literal I know not, but yes definitely seem to recall 1000 years being mentioned symbolically or in some sense.

Ah found it: Revelation chapter 20 - glad I checked.

The "A" in Amillennial actually means 'no literal millennium'. They believe that "a thousand" is an indefinite symbolic number relating to the intra-Advent period. Strictly, Postmillennial is a better description. But that has come to describe hyper-optimistic Amils over the years.

sovereigngrace · Feb 1, 2020

Andrewn said:
How about if we say that classic Amil is a mixture of historicist, idealist, and partial preterits views in different ratios for different people?

I agree.

sovereigngrace · Feb 1, 2020

Original Happy Camper said:
Great example of Isaiah 28:10

For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:

Thanks!!!

sovereigngrace · Feb 1, 2020

dms1972 said:
I am not familiar with all the views on A-millenialism, but isn't it the Saints in Heaven who reign with Christ under that interpretive scheme? Happy to be further informed scripturally, and theologically on that aspect.

The picture referred to there in Revelation 20 is a heavenly scene of the dead in Christ reigning now with Christ. But that does not negate the fact that we today are reigning in life in Christ.

sovereigngrace · Feb 1, 2020

DavidPT said:
In Revelation 19 the lake of fire is mentioned and is in view. Point out anywhere in that chapter where it indicates that satan and humans are cast into it as well, at that time. Show anywhere in Revelation 19 where it even mentions satan one single time.

But if you were to go to Revelation 20 instead, you could easily point out everything I just asked. But Revelation 19 is not Revelation 20.

The book of Revelation consists of a number of parallel recaps relating to the intra-Advent period. Each of these refer to different subjects, entities or aspects of God's unfolding plan during that time. That does not negate the fact that God's dealings with the beast mirrors that of Satan since Christ’s first Advent. The 6th recap (Rev 17-19) focuses in on Babylon, but also shows the destruction of all the wicked, the beast and false prophet been banished into the Lake of Fire. Satan is simply not the focus of that parallel. The focus of the last recap (Revelation 20) is God's dealing with Satan. Revelation 20 goes right back to the first resurrection (Christ). It finishes with Satan being banished to the Lake of Fire.

The fate of Satan, the beast (spirit of antichrist / mystery of iniquity) and the fallen angels (demons) are all knit together in Scripture. They all come under the same spiritual subjugation at the exact same time. When Satan was banished from the Garden then all evil was. When Satan was banished from heaven, so where they all (1/3 of the angels went with him). When Christ bound Satan’s kingdom through His life, death and resurrection then all were bound. 2 Peter 2:4, Jude v 6, Revelation 9 and Revelation 20 all prove the whole demonic realm is currently restrained from stopping the free-flow of the Gospel. Satan has already fell from heaven and now present in the Abyss (Revelation 9:1-11). They are all killed when Satan is destroyed at the climactic Second Coming. The abyss is a spiritual place of restraint for spirits now. We see the devils in Revelation 9:2-3, the beast in 2 Thessalonians 2:3-12, Revelation 11:7 and Revelation 17:8, and Satan in Revelation 9:10-11 and Revelation 20:3 all being released before the second Coming for a little season. Then comes the end! When Satan is released before the Second Coming for a little season then they all are.

Just like Satan’s power and influence were curtailed through the life, death and first resurrection of Christ, so was the beast’s. The fate of the two mirror each other. The reason is, the beast is dependent upon the power of Satan to do his evil. The beast is his envoy or enforcer. At the end Satan will be released from his restraint to empower the beast to subjugate the Church, curtail the Gospel expanse and deceive the nations again.

sovereigngrace · Feb 1, 2020

food4thought said:
Hi again, sovereigngrace!

I think you are selling the dispensational view short. I am not saying that there is a single passage that describes the whole scenario, but the idea permeates both the OT and NT. The rapture of the church is found primarily in 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18, as I am sure you are aware. As for the timing of the rapture, I can make an extremely strong case for it to be different than the 2nd coming... observe:

The 2nd coming will occur on the heals of great tribulation, the likes of which are so severe that if it was not shortened "no flesh would be saved".

Matthew 24:15-31 NASB "Therefore when you see the ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION which was spoken of through Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place (let the reader understand), (16) then those who are in Judea must flee to the mountains. (17) "Whoever is on the housetop must not go down to get the things out that are in his house. (18) "Whoever is in the field must not turn back to get his cloak. (19) "But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days! (20) "But pray that your flight will not be in the winter, or on a Sabbath. (21) "For then there will be a great tribulation, such as has not occurred since the beginning of the world until now, nor ever will. (22) "Unless those days had been cut short, no life would have been saved; but for the sake of the elect those days will be cut short. (23) "Then if anyone says to you, 'Behold, here is the Christ,' or 'There He is,' do not believe him. (24) "For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will show great signs and wonders, so as to mislead, if possible, even the elect. (25) "Behold, I have told you in advance. (26) "So if they say to you, 'Behold, He is in the wilderness,' do not go out, or, 'Behold, He is in the inner rooms,' do not believe them. (27) "For just as the lightning comes from the east and flashes even to the west, so will the coming of the Son of Man be. (28) "Wherever the corpse is, there the vultures will gather. (29) "But immediately after the tribulation of those days THE SUN WILL BE DARKENED, AND THE MOON WILL NOT GIVE ITS LIGHT, AND THE STARS WILL FALL from the sky, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. (30) "And then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the SON OF MAN COMING ON THE CLOUDS OF THE SKY with power and great glory. (31) "And He will send forth His angels with A GREAT TRUMPET and THEY WILL GATHER TOGETHER His elect from the four winds, from one end of the sky to the other.

As we can see, this time will be anything but business as usual, with clear and unmistakable signs preceding it. Yet later in the same chapter, Jesus speaks of His coming for His saints as coming "like a thief", and a time when people will be living life normally like the days before the flood.

Matthew 24:36-42 NASB "But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone. (37) "For the coming of the Son of Man will be just like the days of Noah. (38) "For as in those days before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, (39) and they did not understand until the flood came and took them all away; so will the coming of the Son of Man be. (40) "Then there will be two men in the field; one will be taken and one will be left. (41) "Two women will be grinding at the mill; one will be taken and one will be left. (42) "Therefore be on the alert, for you do not know which day your Lord is coming.

There is no way these two passages could be describing the same event! "Today is a great day for marriage", they might say, "since 100lb hailstones are falling from the sky" (Revelation 16:21). I would be interested in hearing how you reconcile that. As for me, I am utterly convinced that the rapture precedes the great tribulation by some period of time.

Out of time for now, but I will address more of your post soon.

God bless;
Michael

Thank you for taking the time, by the way.

You are telling me what you believe, but not showing me why and how. No Pretribber can show their scenario (describing (1) a rapture of the Church, (2) immediately followed by a literal seven-year tribulation, (3) immediately followed by a further Coming of Christ) because it does not exist in the sacred text. It is you that is bringing these two passages to the table. The burden of proof is on you to show us why and how these two passages could not be describing the same event. Why do these not correlate?

SavedByGrace3 · Feb 1, 2020

rhern said:
The 2nd Coming, The return of Christ begins a new era.

Who will populate the earth. and how will this happen.

Those who survive the tribulation (and their descendants) and the resurrected saints.

SavedByGrace3 · Feb 1, 2020

Dave L said:
The kingdom of God and kingdom of heaven are the same.

“From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.” (Matthew 4:17)

“And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.” (Mark 1:15)

Thanks Dave...
But there is evidence that the two are not the same. One is inside you, the other is on the earth.
JMHO.

sovereigngrace · Feb 1, 2020

SavedByGrace3 said:
Thanks Dave...
But there is evidence that the two are not the same. One is inside you, the other is on the earth.
JMHO.

There is NO evidence. The opposite is the truth. You are trying to divide the indivisible. The ironic part of Dispy thinking is that they make "the kingdom of heaven" a carnal earthly political kingdom and "the God of God" a spiritual heavenly kingdom. This alone is absurd, contradictory, unbiblical and extra-biblical. Everything about Dispensationalism is confusing and doesn't add up.

An elementary comparison between the two in the New Testament will show that “the kingdom of heaven” and “the kingdom of God” are just similar expressions to describe the one same Kingdom. Those who disconnect the repeated synonymous terms “the kingdom of heaven” and “the kingdom of God” do gravely undermine the simple truth that there is but one eternal righteous kingdom that belongs to “the God of heaven.” It is God ordained and God controlled; and whilst it is currently headquartered in heavenly domain it finds its earthly demonstration within the persecuted Church of Jesus Christ. Significantly, in Revelation, we see the righteous giving glory to “the God of heaven” (11:13) and the wicked blaspheming “the God of heaven” (16:10-11).

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