Not all sin is the same.

SkyWriting said:

Pride, Neglect, legalism, slothfulness, every sin there is.
"In the Spirit" is the spirit of forgiveness and love.

Mark 11:25
And whenever you stand praying, forgive, if you have anything against anyone, so that your Father also who is in heaven may forgive you your trespasses.”

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Yes, the part you added is correct. Trespasses. Leviticus 5:15. They are unintentional sins.

Bible Highlighter said:

Not all sin is the same:

#1. There is a sin unto death, there is a sin not unto death (1 John 5:16-17).
#2. Jesus says there is a greater sin (John 19:11).
#3. Sin is transgression of the Law (1 John 3:4), and Jesus said that the Pharisees ignored the weightier matters of the Law (Matthew 23:23, Luke 11:42).
#4. Accidental manslaughter and being able to flee to cities of refuge (Deuteronomy 19:1-13); Contrast this with intentional murder which results in capital punishment (See: Deuteronomy 19:21, Numbers 35:31).
#5. The wickedness was so bad in Noah's time that God destroyed the whole world with a global flood; And the sin at Sodom and Gomorrah was so bad that it was destroyed by fire from heaven. Surely the flood would not have happened if sin was not so bad in Noah's day, and Sodom and Gomorrah would not have been destroyed if it was not so perverse. Other cities that were pagan had obviously sinned, but they were not as grievous as the sin at Sodom and Gomorrah.
#6. Unintentional Sins could be atoned for by certain types of offerings, and yet high handed sins could not be atoned for in this way (See: Numbers 15:22-31).
#7. There are unforgivable sins like blasphemy of the Spirit (Matthew 12:32), and worshiping the beast (Revelation 13:8) (Revelation 17:8).
#8. Ananias and Sapphira lied to the Spirit and they were instantly killed, and yet (Acts of the Apostles 5:1-11), Simon the sorcerer was not killed when he tried to offer money for the Spirit; For Simon was told by Peter that he could pray and hope that he may be forgiven for what he had done (Acts of the Apostles 8:9-24). No threat to Paul's standing with God was ever made when he did not listen to the Spirit's warnings in going to Jerusalem; Although he knew he would be in prison if he decided to go (Acts of the Apostles 21:1-6, Acts of the Apostles 20:22-23) which is exactly what happened to him (by which he later regretted such imprisonment - Acts of the Apostles 26:29). So not all forms of disobedience or sin merits the same form of punishment.

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OK, then are there different levels in Hell... Different gauges of punishment?

Like the little old lady down the street who denies that Christ is her savior.. argues that there is no God.. But is bakes the nicest cookies and jams that she gives to the neighbors.. and donates tons of money to cancer research... etc...

She will have a better "hell" than the guy beside her who plays his music too loud, has party's all night, smokes weed and does drugs... and throws garbage in the street...

He will be a bit worse in "hell"..

Then there is Hilter... and Stalin and Pilate and the like..

They will have the worst "hell".

Is this right?

Bible Highlighter said:

Then why was Jesus appearing to teach a form of Legalism (Obedience to God's laws as a part of salvation) in Matthew 19:17-19, and Luke 10:25-37?

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Salvation results in good works through practice and intention.

Titus 2:7-9
Show yourself in all respects to be a model of good works, and in your teaching show integrity, dignity, and sound speech that cannot be condemned, so that an opponent may be put to shame, having nothing evil to say about us


What you are claiming is that Christians, pastors, clergy, and priests don't commit crimes
even though there are no facts to back that up. Though I'd say nuns are rare in the pokey, likely for lifestyle choices they might have made anyway.

SkyWriting said:

Salvation results in good works through practice and intention.

What you are claiming is that Christians, pastors, clergy, and priests don't commit crimes
even though there are no facts to back that up. Though I'd say nuns are rare in the pokey, likely for lifestyle choices they might have made anyway.

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My wife had nuns for teaches.... They are not without sin....

JacksBratt said:

My wife had nuns for teaches.... They are not without sin....

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But they limit their assaults to small sticks and thus avoid the penal system.

Bible Highlighter said:

Then why was Jesus appearing to teach a form of Legalism (i.e. obedience to God's laws as a part of salvation) in Matthew 19:17-19, and Luke 10:25-37?

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You make a good point. Non-Christians who treat others well will be going to Heaven too. This is a reflection of God's Spirit written into their hearts and their acceptance of God.
Narcissists are not so likely to be in Heaven.

Bible Highlighter said:

Unfortunately, Belief Alone Proponents distort God's grace to include that they can sin and still be saved while sinning.

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Please give examples of where you've seen this happening.

Bible Highlighter said:

#1. There is a sin unto death, there is a sin not unto death (1 John 5:16-17).

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"This sickness is not unto death" (John 11:4), and yet Lazarus died; for when the disciples misunderstood the words which Christ adjoined later, "Lazarus our friend is asleep, but I go to wake him out of his sleep" (11:11), He said plainly, "Lazarus is dead" (11:14). So then Lazarus is dead, and yet this sickness was not unto death; he was dead, and yet this sickness is not unto death. Now we know that Christ was thinking of the miracle which would permit the bystanders, "if they believed, to see the glory of God" (11:40), the miracle by which He awoke Lazarus from the dead, so that this sickness was not only not unto death, but, as Christ had foretold, "for the glory of God, that the Son of God might be glorified thereby" (11:4). Oh, but even if Christ had not awakened Lazarus from the dead, is it not true that this sickness, that death itself, was not a sickness unto death? When Christ comes to the grave and cries with a loud voice, "Lazarus, come forth" (11:43), it is evident enough that "this" sickness is not unto death. But even if Christ had not said these words -- merely the fact that He, who is "the resurrection and the life" (11:25), comes to the grave, is not this a sufficient sign that this sickness is not unto death, does not the fact that Christ exists mean that this sickness is not unto death? And what help would it have been to Lazarus to be awakened from the dead, if the thing must end after all with his dying -- how would that have helped Lazarus, if He did not live who is the resurrection and the life for everyone who believes in Him? No, it is not because Lazarus was awakened from the dead, not for this can one say that this sickness is not unto death; but because He lives, therefore this sickness is not unto death. For, humanly speaking, death is the last thing of all; and, humanly speaking, there is hope only so long as there is life. But Christianly understood death is by no means the last thing of all, hence it is only a little event within that which is all, an eternal life; and Christianly understood there is in death infinitely much more hope than merely humanly speaking there is when there not only is life but this life exhibits the fullest health and vigor.
So then in the Christian understanding of it not even death is the sickness unto death, still less everything which is called earthly and temporal suffering: want, sickness, wretchedness, affliction, adversities, torments, mental sufferings, sorrow, grief. And even if such things are so painful and hard to bear that we men say, or at all events the sufferer says, "This is worse than death" -- everything of the sort, which, if it is not a sickness, is comparable to a sickness, is nevertheless, in the Christian understanding of it, not the sickness unto death.

Despair is the sickness. In Christian terminology death is the expression for the greatest spiritual sickness, and the cure is simply to die, to "die from" despair. The three forms of despair: not being conscious of having a self, not willing to be oneself, but also despair at willing to be oneself. Despair is "sickness unto death." Sin means to be in despair at not willing to be oneself, or to be in despair at willing to be oneself. The lives of most men, being determined by a dialectic of indifference , are so remote from the good (that is, faith) that they are almost too spiritless to be called sinners, almost too spiritless to be called despairers.

Bible Highlighter said:

Do you believe that you lose salvation if you lie, happen to look upon another in lust, and or hate another? Did you ever say that salvation is not in anything that you do? Have you ever said that believers sin every day? Do you believe they are saved despite doing these kinds of sins?

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People are forgiven all sins for life. There isn't enough wood available
to keep nailing Jesus to the cross over and over.
His blood covers all past and future sins....in just one event.

Babies that have died, and those not yet born too.

Bible Highlighter said:

Hebrews 10:26 says, "For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,"

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That's true. Jesus only died for the sins you recognise as sins against God.
For the rest, you deserve death. That's why we need Grace. To cover the rest.

For example. You know children are starving, but you bought a pizza the other day instead for yourself. You need Grace. Because you certainly didn't repent of that sin.