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I completely understand. I have very severe depression. I take medication and all that and I rarely leave the house or even my favorite chair. They are always changing and adjusting my meds but I never really feel any different so I know how it is when you just don't have anything to give.

In my personal situation, to medicate the depression, I used chemicals to change how I felt. I developed an addiction over time and tried everything to quit. It wasn't until I completely gave my life and my will to my higher power that I found some relief. When God stepped in and removed the desire to use, I gained so much gratitude that when I am down in the pit of despair, I am able to look at my life and say "I'm not exactly where I want to be in life but I got a second (third and fourth) chance. I am relatively healthy, my mom is still living, and I have all the food clothes and shelter anybody could want."

So something else to consider, when I don't have the energy to be active in the church or aren't living the way you want to and feel shame and low. I try to think of at least 5 things I am grateful for and I get some relief for my bad feelings.

I wouldn't presume to tell you what you should do, I just wanted to share about what has helped me.


Thank you for your response. I understand depression, very bad depression, and being debilitated. See the post I wrote to TzephanYahu. I send you my sympathy.

I am feeling light-headed and ill right now, but I want to type just this much: after many years of suicidal depression and physical symptoms, I discovered that I was intolerant of gluten, among other things. Changing my diet and using digestive enzymes helped me immensely. Have you tried juicing? Have you tried any diet/nutrient based healing? I was actually able to stop the depression even though the other symptoms have gotten worse.
 
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Hello. I am wondering where to post this question.

I have tried to embrace Christianity. Jesus seems to be the truth. I have good reason to believe He did in fact heal people and came back to life after being crucified. But I cannot understand how "God's gifts" and "God" are not the same. I do not understand why I am supposed to be stripped of everything, my health, my friends, all hope, so I can "focus on God". There is so much talk of "learning to rely entirely on God" and "needing nothing but God" ... what does that even mean? Am I supposed to be happy in a dark empty room with no food and no escape, happy just thinking about "God"? What is God without His handiwork? Isn't God to be found in every bit of Creation, including food, shelter, a healthy body, friends, art, music?

I was OK as long as I believed evil was a mistake, some kind of virus in the system that needs to be worked out carefully before Creation can be renewed. But the more I read the Bible the more it seems that evil was created on purpose, that everything was planned before the world was begun... which makes it hard to understand how God could feel anger about anything that happened (ie "righteous wrath"), being that HE HIMSELF planned it. Once I started seeing evil as God's work, "God" became the senseless deity that He was to me before I sought refuge in Christianity. So I am back at square one, but worse.

So now I am scared that if I empower myself or try to improve my life, I will be sent to hell. Being tormented is not making me "more spiritual", whatever that means. I feel like Christianity has turned me into a mental patient.

I am also disappointed. At first, as health problems cropped up after becoming Christian, I thought, "AHA! This is satan trying to stop me!" But now, a few years later...the health problems keep coming, and I'm just tired of what seems like a mind game. I thought there would be revelations. I thought that there would be "peace, joy, and comfort". I tried to comfort myself by saying, "I will die soon, then I will escape this and go to my REAL life! Life will finally begin once I die!" But I don't even believe it anymore.

I have witnessed what I felt was pure evil. I have not recovered. That's what pushed me to Jesus. If Jesus does not work out for me, I am alone with that evil, again, forever in my memory and darkening my soul. I can't turn back... where can I go?

I would appreciate any kind of insight. Thank you.

Redleghunter made a good post, but I want to add a few items.

I'm disabled, I became a Christian disabled and still am. It's difficult dealing with disabilities or illnesses, and life can be a struggle.

The Bible doesn't promise our physical illnesses or disabilities will be healed, this is a part of life in this flesh. As the Bible says, God makes the sun to shine and the rain to fall on the just and the unjust alike..

However, God is our comfort, our ever present help in times of trouble. He may not heal our bodies, but He is with us, comforting us always.

"Yea though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I shall fear no evil for Thy rod and Thy staff they comfort me.. "

After your saved, God is with us no matter how hard the trial, and we find comfort in His arms.

Second I want to point out, that life doesn't end. There's no sitting in a cold dark room.. it's not depressing to be saved. I listen to music, I love, laugh, have a sense of humor, engage in artistic pursuits (photography when I'm able), watch movies.

I can't work, but if I could I could have a career if I wanted.. there's good food (I like to bake and it can also be an artistic expression).

While disability limits me, being saved doesn't stop me from having a life at all.

Don't listen to the scary people who would have you sit in a cold dark room, life saved is life more abundantly, not a depressing thing at all.
 
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Thank you for your response. I will tell you my main issue: I have health issues that are making it nearly impossible for me to work. I used to be a high-achieving person. Over time I have been reduced to extreme fatigue, insomnia, breathing problems, etc. I want to be able to be my best self, not be this dysfunctional thing. I want to be able to use my God-given talents. It seems like a total waste. I struggle to do something every day, but it is no where near what I could do if I were in decent condition. I am having a hard time applying Jesus' teachings to my situation. I want to earn money and then use it for charitable works, not "learn how to suffer". I have wondered if God is trying to show me that he does not need my good works. I have wondered if God is "putting me in my place", humiliating and degrading me for some kind of ...purpose? I am continuing to try to heal myself with any protocol that makes sense, but I do not have a "system" for staying mentally OK about this. It's been twenty years like this. There are other issues but this is the main problem. I want to believe God wants me to be my best self, using my abilities, participating in life. I do not want to believe God wants me to be in this condition. I have tried to accept it, but I just can't. I have tried to "praise and worship" in spite of this misery but it is not working. God knows I'm unhappy. I don't even know what praising and worshipping entails. I asked Jesus to comfort me and help me to accept my condition, but so far, I am not feeling any comfort. I tried to tell myself this life is just evil garbage and I was put here to be punished, but it will get better once I die. I have tried telling myself that suffering makes me like Jesus, but it really does not...as far as I know, He had a healthy, busy life until He was taken to be crucified, and then His suffering on the Cross had MEANING! Laying in bed all day because I will black out if I try to stand up is MEANINGLESS. I was born with compassion. I did not need to be tortured into caring about people beside myself. I already did. If anything, this meaningless disease is making me hard-hearted and cold. I do not like what is happening. It's just been too long, too many opportunities were lost because of this. ...I know someone might say, this forces me to rely solely on God...but what do i have a body and a brain for if not to USE them? If I just lay down and say, "I give up, God can take over", I will end up in a gutter! Proverbs warns against not working! Sleep will clothe a man in rags! Etc!!!

I appreciate any insight.

Get on disability...

There's nothing wrong with being
disabled and needing help, biblically they took care of those in need, they didnt shame anyone who couldnt work or provide for themselves.

Look, I know what it's like to be truly crippled. I've sat with a gun in my hand trying to make it through the next 60 seconds without pulling the trigger because the pain was so bad. (I did finally get an emotional handle on dealing with pain and am no longer in that place, but I have been there.)

I've gone from one day working full time, raising two children, running a farm, a member of the school board and the PTA, making it all work hyperactive non stop doer - to the next day learning how to take care of myself from a wheelchair.

There are days I can't make it to the bathroom without help, and days I'm bedridden. But also there are good days too, days I'm okay and can manage self care and do some fun and enjoyable things.

Here's the deal. When someone is disabled the mental jump is huge, our minds didn't break, we are still the energetic people we were, and it's depressing to be so limited.

But you have to learn how to cope with those emotions, you have to learn how to be this new person with limitations, and you have to accept who you are, and all the limitations that go with it.

When you learn to accept yourself, then you can deal with the rest. God IS there believe it or not... but your still in denial of the facts of your life. Your so inward focused your viewing God through the wrong lens.

I think a support group may help you, for those with disability.
 
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I will tell you my main issue: I have health issues that are making it nearly impossible for me to work. I used to be a high-achieving person. Over time I have been reduced to extreme fatigue, insomnia, breathing problems, etc. I want to be able to be my best self, not be this dysfunctional thing.

I'm sorry to hear that you are suffering in such ways at the moment. However, I will come back to this matter later.

I want to be able to use my God-given talents.

What talents are you unable to use at the moment, that you could if you were fully able-bodied?

I am having a hard time applying Jesus' teachings to my situation.

What teachings specifically, my friend?

I want to earn money and then use it for charitable works, not "learn how to suffer".

You don't need to earn a lot of money to give to charity. Good works can include a listening ear, advice in time of need, encouragement, being a peace maker and helping those who suffer. But, if you want to give financially, a small amount means more than no amount. Whatever you can give (even if in your eyes it's pathetic), give and do so joyfully. It's the act and not the amount which is important to Him.

I have wondered if God is "putting me in my place", humiliating and degrading me for some kind of ...purpose?

It's a possibility. But this depends on your past, your heart and your motives. Sometimes the Father needs to discipline us severely, if we are on the wrong path. But anyone should rather discipline in this life than no part in the next.

You mention degrading and humiliation. Do you think that pride is an issue for you? If not, why do you think these things come to mind?

I do not want to believe God wants me to be in this condition. I have tried to accept it, but I just can't. I have tried to "praise and worship" in spite of this misery but it is not working. God knows I'm unhappy. I don't even know what praising and worshipping entails.

Yes, I think you and God need to have a good talk. It's no good you pretending to praise and worship when inside you feel confusion and resentment. He sees your thoughts like He hears your words.

Are you familiar with the prophets Jonah and Habakkuk? Here were two prophets who opened their heart to God and had arguments with Him! The point I'm trying to make is that you need to vocalise exactly how you feel, with all your anger and resentment, to God - completely openly. He doesn't crave or need orchestrated words which you think sound good and right. He doesn't want honesty, transparity and the "elephant in the room" to be addressed.

Therefore, if you haven't had a rant towards God, I encourage you to do so. Don't worry, He isn't so easily offended by a child who is hurt and upset. He is more likely to be offended at disingenuous communication though.

I don't even know what praising and worshipping entails.

Don't get caught up in terms and definitions from the church. When you are ready, these things will come naturally to you.

The beginning of understanding this is to learn and understand to Fear Yahweh. Then after this has been understood in totality, true praise and worship will come naturally - and with much passion - not an insincere hands in the air singing a "Hillsong" tune. :)

I was put here to be punished, but it will get better once I die.

Haha, don't be silly. That's your flesh talking.

I did not need to be tortured into caring about people beside myself. I already did. If anything, this meaningless disease is making me hard-hearted and cold.

Not so my friend. Someone who is hard-hearted doesn't recognise it. You have a heart for others though which is a genuinely good sign. I'll come back to this.

I do not like what is happening. It's just been too long, too many opportunities were lost because of this. ...I know someone might say, this forces me to rely solely on God...but what do i have a body and a brain for if not to USE them?

Man, I feel you. You must feel drained and at the end of your tether. I wish I could pray to help you but I don't feel like that would resolve it. Not because He is unable, but because there may be something in this situation which needs to be overcome first. Besides, I don't believe I was gifted with the Spiritual gifts of intercession or healing! But I can offer some advice and hopefully something in my ramblings will help you...

1. Reestablishing the basics
I would recommend the following reading plan for you to reestablish the basics. Every Christian should do this regularly, as we can get caught up in Church theology or other meatier topics.
  • Ecclesiastes
  • Mark
  • Romans
  • 1 Peter
If you have any questions on these books, please feel free to let me know and I will help you if I can.

Please also read this page if you are feeling very heavy hearted, which should hopefully encourage you if you feel depression is taking hold. www.faithandtheword.com/bother/withlife/

2. Opening the floodgates
As I mentioned above, and if you haven't already, let God know exactly how you feel. Don't bother with niceties, but be honest, raw and let your resentment out clearly. You shouldn't expect an answer back, but you can expect this to clear the air between you two.

3. Service
You type and you do it well. You can begin to serve God from this very hour in doing so. Will it be an empathetic ear to others on the forum (for you can relate to pain)? Will you perhaps be offering them advice? Maybe you'll start a blog to share your thoughts, life and ideas? Maybe a book?

You don't need an able body to serve Him, only willingness. Take me for example. You know nothing about my health or condition. I'm effectively just words on a page to you, but we are still connecting and we are still discussing Him in depth. Perhaps Yahweh is working through to reach you, perhaps not. But either way, I am a ready and willing "conduit" for Him to work through, as can you be now, from this very hour.

4. Health
I don't know why Yahweh has allowed this ailment upon you. Whatever the cause and origin, He knows you have "this" now.

Without knowing more about your life, your past and your heart it would be foolish for me to give you specific advice. That said, I do feel that an issue surrounding your understanding of the Gospel, Yahweh and the Word of God. Not a bad, horrific issue, but rather one on unfamiliarity.

I've been a Christian for about 15 years and I still consider myself and amateur in the Word. The more time you invest in it, the more it opens up to you and reveals it's riches. This is part of "seeking Him with all your heart". Therefore, as you wait for the cause of this Health problem to reveal itself - stay in the Word. Approach it as if personally handed to you by Yahweh and study it as if it were for a University degree - with the same diligence, effort and "consuming" appetite. The rewards will amaze you. Only remember to do one thing as you do this - forget every preconceived idea you have on the Bible.

Check out this page for encouragement on how to get the most out of reading the Word. www.faithandtheword.com/bother/withreading/

Besides that, forgive anyone you may hold a grudge against (Including God and yourself), learn to be thankful in the small things and humble yourself. If you continue to do these things - healing can come, as I have witnessed in others with serious ailments.

Love & Shalom
T.
 
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Thank you for your response. I understand depression, very bad depression, and being debilitated. See the post I wrote to TzephanYahu. I send you my sympathy.

I am feeling light-headed and ill right now, but I want to type just this much: after many years of suicidal depression and physical symptoms, I discovered that I was intolerant of gluten, among other things. Changing my diet and using digestive enzymes helped me immensely. Have you tried juicing? Have you tried any diet/nutrient based healing? I was actually able to stop the depression even though the other symptoms have gotten worse.

Now that you mention it, I do have an issue with sugar and fat. I had a health issue where I had to cut my fat intake to under 20 grams per day. During that time, I ate a lot of lean protein, turkey, chicken breast, and greek yogurt, along with protein shakes because part of my health problem was I was peeing out all of the protein I was eating. So I had to eat massive amounts of protein and 0 fat. Then I cut the sugar. Even though I was having some health issues, I ended up having more energy, better sleep, and increased motivation which are all depression symptoms. I still carried around guilt and shame and low self-esteem but I was able to at least leave the house, talk to people, and work out. So it didn't cure my depression but it did relieve some of the symptoms.

My diet isn't so extreme now but I try to watch the sugar and fat and get as much protein as I can. I still have depression but I don't live in despair and misery anymore.
 
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I'm sorry to hear that you are suffering in such ways at the moment. However, I will come back to this matter later.



What talents are you unable to use at the moment, that you could if you were fully able-bodied?



What teachings specifically, my friend?



You don't need to earn a lot of money to give to charity. Good works can include a listening ear, advice in time of need, encouragement, being a peace maker and helping those who suffer. But, if you want to give financially, a small amount means more than no amount. Whatever you can give (even if in your eyes it's pathetic), give and do so joyfully. It's the act and not the amount which is important to Him.



It's a possibility. But this depends on your past, your heart and your motives. Sometimes the Father needs to discipline us severely, if we are on the wrong path. But anyone should rather discipline in this life than no part in the next.

You mention degrading and humiliation. Do you think that pride is an issue for you? If not, why do you think these things come to mind?



Yes, I think you and God need to have a good talk. It's no good you pretending to praise and worship when inside you feel confusion and resentment. He sees your thoughts like He hears your words.

Are you familiar with the prophets Jonah and Habakkuk? Here were two prophets who opened their heart to God and had arguments with Him! The point I'm trying to make is that you need to vocalise exactly how you feel, with all your anger and resentment, to God - completely openly. He doesn't crave or need orchestrated words which you think sound good and right. He doesn't want honesty, transparity and the "elephant in the room" to be addressed.

Therefore, if you haven't had a rant towards God, I encourage you to do so. Don't worry, He isn't so easily offended by a child who is hurt and upset. He is more likely to be offended at disingenuous communication though.



Don't get caught up in terms and definitions from the church. When you are ready, these things will come naturally to you.

The beginning of understanding this is to learn and understand to Fear Yahweh. Then after this has been understood in totality, true praise and worship will come naturally - and with much passion - not an insincere hands in the air singing a "Hillsong" tune. :)



Haha, don't be silly. That's your flesh talking.



Not so my friend. Someone who is hard-hearted doesn't recognise it. You have a heart for others though which is a genuinely good sign. I'll come back to this.



Man, I feel you. You must feel drained and at the end of your tether. I wish I could pray to help you but I don't feel like that would resolve it. Not because He is unable, but because there may be something in this situation which needs to be overcome first. Besides, I don't believe I was gifted with the Spiritual gifts of intercession or healing! But I can offer some advice and hopefully something in my ramblings will help you...

1. Reestablishing the basics
I would recommend the following reading plan for you to reestablish the basics. Every Christian should do this regularly, as we can get caught up in Church theology or other meatier topics.
  • Ecclesiastes
  • Mark
  • Romans
  • 1 Peter
If you have any questions on these books, please feel free to let me know and I will help you if I can.

Please also read this page if you are feeling very heavy hearted, which should hopefully encourage you if you feel depression is taking hold. www.faithandtheword.com/bother/withlife/

2. Opening the floodgates
As I mentioned above, and if you haven't already, let God know exactly how you feel. Don't bother with niceties, but be honest, raw and let your resentment out clearly. You shouldn't expect an answer back, but you can expect this to clear the air between you two.

3. Service
You type and you do it well. You can begin to serve God from this very hour in doing so. Will it be an empathetic ear to others on the forum (for you can relate to pain)? Will you perhaps be offering them advice? Maybe you'll start a blog to share your thoughts, life and ideas? Maybe a book?

You don't need an able body to serve Him, only willingness. Take me for example. You know nothing about my health or condition. I'm effectively just words on a page to you, but we are still connecting and we are still discussing Him in depth. Perhaps Yahweh is working through to reach you, perhaps not. But either way, I am a ready and willing "conduit" for Him to work through, as can you be now, from this very hour.

4. Health
I don't know why Yahweh has allowed this ailment upon you. Whatever the cause and origin, He knows you have "this" now.

Without knowing more about your life, your past and your heart it would be foolish for me to give you specific advice. That said, I do feel that an issue surrounding your understanding of the Gospel, Yahweh and the Word of God. Not a bad, horrific issue, but rather one on unfamiliarity.

I've been a Christian for about 15 years and I still consider myself and amateur in the Word. The more time you invest in it, the more it opens up to you and reveals it's riches. This is part of "seeking Him with all your heart". Therefore, as you wait for the cause of this Health problem to reveal itself - stay in the Word. Approach it as if personally handed to you by Yahweh and study it as if it were for a University degree - with the same diligence, effort and "consuming" appetite. The rewards will amaze you. Only remember to do one thing as you do this - forget every preconceived idea you have on the Bible.

Check out this page for encouragement on how to get the most out of reading the Word. www.faithandtheword.com/bother/withreading/

Besides that, forgive anyone you may hold a grudge against (Including God and yourself), learn to be thankful in the small things and humble yourself. If you continue to do these things - healing can come, as I have witnessed in others with serious ailments.

Love & Shalom
T.

I really appreciate your response. It will take me a while to think about all this. It helps just to know people like you care enough to spend time writing an answer to a complete stranger.

Here are some questions: How does one humble oneself without being degraded? How does one have no pride without having low self-esteem? (Low self-esteem has been a major problem in my life, so I actually have had to work to have any self-worth at all.) And what is forgiveness, as an action? I only understand action. I'm a pretty simple, black and white person...it's the only way I can be. To me, forgiveness is not seeking revenge, and not letting anger fester, and that's the best I can do.
 
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Peeing out protein...doesn't that mean you have kidney problems? Just wondering, have you ever had your hormone levels checked? Have you considered that you might have subclinical hypothyroidism? If you have time, please check out Dr. Brownstein's and Dr. Flechas' lectures on Youtube, about iodine supplementation. Maybe you could benefit from vitamin megadosing. I used to take antidepressants...I was not a person, I was a "case"...
I cannot express to you enough what a horrible chokehold depression had on my life for twenty years... and now I am discovering that weak adrenals, food intolerance, and malfunctioning thyroid could have been the main problem...

I know this is not a medical forum but if you have not looked into these topics please do.

Also, we all have different problems and potential solutions, just wondering if you can reintroduce saturated fat into your diet? I've found grass-fed beef fat to really boost a sense of well-being.
 
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Shalom friend,

How does one humble oneself without being degraded?

Humility and degradation are slightly different. Degradation implies being forcefully humbled or rather humiliated at the whim of another. Humility is more about a way of being and understanding which can come from yourself voluntarily.

For example, in the parable in Luke 14:7 there is an example for you. A guest entering a feast sits towards the head of the table and is degraded before others after being asked to move. Whereas the guest sat at the foot of the table, in humility, is then exalted. Have a read of it.

How do you do in action? Be very aware of your shortcomings and the amazing undeserved grace shown unto you. Realise that you are no better than anyone else in God's family, and don't seek for praise or anything else from another. Prefer to give and help rather than expect to get and be helped (by another or God). Be ready to forfeit your time for another, esteeming their worth and needs above your own. Even though you are a child of the Most High, walk and serve like a loyal servant - doing good works and obeying His commands as part of your service, expecting nothing back as this service is expected of you.

For more on walking humbly, study the words of the Messiah, particularly in Matthew.

How does one have no pride without having low self-esteem? (Low self-esteem has been a major problem in my life, so I actually have had to work to have any self-worth at all.)

Pride is an extreme in one direction, low self-esteem is the extreme in the other. It's not a choice of either or, but finding the balance in between.

It doesn't sound like you are at risk of being prideful, based on what you say, rather it's a risk of low self-esteem. I cannot help you with this without being involved in your life and understanding you more. But even then I probably couldn't help. Finding balance is one of the challenges in life that we have to find for ourselves. Again, I don't think you have the inclination towards pride, so try to dwell on your strengths, compliments and the fact, then when all is said and done in this life, all that matters is what is on your inside - not your looks, vocation, or position in this fading world.

And what is forgiveness, as an action? I only understand action. I'm a pretty simple, black and white person...it's the only way I can be. To me, forgiveness is not seeking revenge, and not letting anger fester, and that's the best I can do.

Ah! A man of action! Truly you will do well in the Kingdom with that attitude!

So not seeking revenge is expected as is not letting anger fester. W should go beyond this and actually forgive them of their wrong. In action that means letting go of the charge you hold against them, and you can do so verbally before the Lord if that helps you finalise it.

This is not just for your benefit (unforgiveness has been linked to moderate and terminal illnesses) but also for the benefit of the other party. But why bother??

Imagine I offend you and another Christian (we'll call him Brian) at the same time, with the same offence. You hold it against me, in unforgiveness, and Brian let's it go, forgiving me of my wrong.

And then BAM! Judgement Day.

Brian goes before the Lord for His Judgement. Thereafter, he is led into eternal life.

But then you go up and the Lord notices that you hold a charge against me. Then, I'm called forward at the matter is in court. I'm trialed and found guilty for my offence. As you see the fear on my face before the Wrath of God, you feel gutted that you pressed charges and wish you could take it back. The fear of the event makes the offence seem minor to you and you look on me with pity. But it's too late, we're now in court.

However, then the examination turns to you, the accuser. The Judge then assess you to see if there is any hypocrisy in you and if you hold this charge fairly and righteously. And, if you are found falling short, then judgement comes upon you as well.


With this in mind, see the Parable of the Unmerciful Servant in Matthew 18:21-35.

The point being this - Yahweh has forgiven you many many sins through the Messiah. Many dark ones of the past and some even in your still future. He has forgiven you much and laid before you, with pity, mercy and grace a way to escape judgement and enter New Jerusalem. All of your wrongs, by the Torah, have you deserving of death. But He has forgiven you, if you accept it. However, if you hold a charge against someone for doing you wrong and move without mercy, then how can you expect the Great Judge who you had previously offended to be moved again compassionately towards you?

Therefore, forgive, for your benefit now, on judgement day and for the sake of the one who hold a charge against. Have mercy upon them, like He did to you. For that day will be fearful for all and you won't want anyone to face such wrath on your account.

I know, it's hard to do sometimes. Sometimes very very hard. But try to have pity on them and forgive them by praying it aloud to the Father. If your heart remains stubborn, imagine them facing fierce wrath because of your charge and try to find compassion to let it go, as the Father did with you, through Messiah.

I don't know, I probably made the matter more confusing for you. I'll stop babbling on now!

Thanks for reading.

May Yahweh bless you with wisdom, health and joy. May He guide your steps through the Word and through life. May He reveal to you the depths of His love for you and give you the heart to accept it.

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Peeing out protein...doesn't that mean you have kidney problems? Just wondering, have you ever had your hormone levels checked? Have you considered that you might have subclinical hypothyroidism? If you have time, please check out Dr. Brownstein's and Dr. Flechas' lectures on Youtube, about iodine supplementation. Maybe you could benefit from vitamin megadosing. I used to take antidepressants...I was not a person, I was a "case"...
I cannot express to you enough what a horrible chokehold depression had on my life for twenty years... and now I am discovering that weak adrenals, food intolerance, and malfunctioning thyroid could have been the main problem...

I know this is not a medical forum but if you have not looked into these topics please do.

Also, we all have different problems and potential solutions, just wondering if you can reintroduce saturated fat into your diet? I've found grass-fed beef fat to really boost a sense of well-being.

You are right on with a lot of those things. I do take a thyroid pill and I have low testosterone. I also have kidney disease.. My protein problem has subsided somewhat though my levels are usually low they are withing normal range, but low normal.

They never truly got to the bottom of my protein issue. One doc thought it was my pancreas because I spend about a year and a half drinking hard liquor in massive amounts daily. At the Mayo clinic, they said I had a thickening of the lining of my duodenum after sending through one of those camera pills. I took an enzyme called Creon for a couple of years. It helps the body absorb protein.

During that time, whatever was happening in my body healed up somewhat and I was able to discontinue it. My diet is not so extreme as it was but I still eat high amounts of protein in lean meat but I cook with bitter and butter my toast etc. Now my main affliction is lymphedema which I picked up when I had 0 protein going on.

the only way I have been able to get rid of it has been that extreme low-fat diet (no more than 20 grams per day). So I live with it and use compression when it flares up.

I agree that my issue could be physical. Especially because no amount of antidepressants I take seem to work very well. I have been gradually lowering the dose and feel no difference in my mood. Cannabis seems to work best for my mood. It pretty much cures my depression on a certain level.
 
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You are right on with a lot of those things. I do take a thyroid pill and I have low testosterone. I also have kidney disease.. My protein problem has subsided somewhat though my levels are usually low they are withing normal range, but low normal.

They never truly got to the bottom of my protein issue. One doc thought it was my pancreas because I spend about a year and a half drinking hard liquor in massive amounts daily. At the Mayo clinic, they said I had a thickening of the lining of my duodenum after sending through one of those camera pills. I took an enzyme called Creon for a couple of years. It helps the body absorb protein.

During that time, whatever was happening in my body healed up somewhat and I was able to discontinue it. My diet is not so extreme as it was but I still eat high amounts of protein in lean meat but I cook with bitter and butter my toast etc. Now my main affliction is lymphedema which I picked up when I had 0 protein going on.

the only way I have been able to get rid of it has been that extreme low-fat diet (no more than 20 grams per day). So I live with it and use compression when it flares up.

I agree that my issue could be physical. Especially because no amount of antidepressants I take seem to work very well. I have been gradually lowering the dose and feel no difference in my mood. Cannabis seems to work best for my mood. It pretty much cures my depression on a certain level.

It sounds like you have gone to great effort to recover. I would not know anything to suggest, especially since I have no solid data about my own situation, and all my healing attempts are based on guesswork...

I will keep you in my prayers! Thank you for the encouraging posts in response to my original questions.
 
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It sounds like you have gone to great effort to recover. I would not know anything to suggest, especially since I have no solid data about my own situation, and all my healing attempts are based on guesswork...

I will keep you in my prayers! Thank you for the encouraging posts in response to my original questions.
These may benefit you:


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