Is it Ethical to be fired for stating Christian beliefs
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Of course they can. But it's about "time and place" isn't it? Just because you can doesn't mean you should.
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Don't we use the label "Christian" too widely? Perhaps it cannot be helped. Originally the term meant 'one who follows Christ' I understand:
Etymology. The Greek word Χριστιανός (Christianos), meaning "follower of Christ", comes from Χριστός (Christos), meaning "anointed one", with an adjectival ending borrowed from Latin to denote adhering to, or even belonging to, as in slave ownership.
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I used to think: I should change my own self-label to "aspiring to be Christian" or something like that. Though now, I'm doing this many days as well as I can follow His instructions, such as even the daily prayer as He said in Matthew ch 6, the confession of wrongs, and other things, and accept I'm imperfect, and He's changing me over time. But if a person just uses 'Christian' to just try to legitimize their own prejudices, this is something that if they are actually believers, we'd want to send them a strong letter, like Paul would.
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That's true!
According to what Christ said, they won't make it but will die the second death, unless they turn and repent (and cease doing that wrong). They don't have to be 100% perfected, but they do have to confess/repent/turn, which will be a real change.
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If a person (as is being discussed at least hypothetically) uses the bible to try to justify or as a tool with which to be judgmental....then that person was doing an example of what Christ condemned the Pharisees for: using stickler rules and judging others while being hypocritical themselves.
Let's use a specific clear example.
Suppose in your church someone does the listed sin of being an alcoholic. (1 Cor 6:10) (or say instead, divorce/remarriage without an excuse like the ones given; or whatever, pick your sin, doesn't matter which... Greed. Gossip, you name it.)
Then suppose instead of confessing one's own sins and saying everyone is a sinner and needs to confess and rely on Christ...instead of that...someone in the church starts preaching about alcoholism all the time. That person then becomes a hypocrite, by focusing on the assumed (or even if known!) sins of others, but not their own. It'd be like (often actually is in real life!) such a person is representing "we over here are all good people, but you are a vile sinner".
See the problem? (It's the same problem regardless of how sinful each of the individuals involved are, whether there sins are the ones being guesses, or instead something else, like gossiping, etc.)
Everyone needs Christ, because everyone is a sinner, and everyone is at a different place of progress following Him. All need fellowship and encouragement.
So, we say "Welcome sinners. Come and join us!"
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Steve seriously. Sounds like you concur with Folaus view that the deaths and carnage of the fires were due to gays n abortion. Very disappointing if not ill informed
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So what if Folau as a Christian and preacher believed that not to tell sinners they should repent is actually wrong and could result in him being held accountable as he feels that we should call sinners to repent. What if in this case he was doing it out of love just as a Doctor or a person will tell someone that their smoking will result in cancer and death.
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Yeah I disagree with that. What I am saying is if Folau really believes this as some do then why can't he express it as part of his belief. Didn't he say this in his Church as a preacher. Are we going to start policing what people say in church now. We are stepping on pretty dangerous ground then. Some people believe that disasters are the result of sin just as they did in the Old testament. The church is a private place next we will be saying people cannot express certain views in their own home.
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I was really hoping - Just for once, that you and other Christians would see the wrong in this. To see the silence in response to his ridiculous claims, and outright reject it. To state that even though he has said it in a church and posted it on youtube, that it is utterly wrong and obnoxiously errant to cite the poor women who had to opt for abortion and the gay community are all to blame for so much death and destruction.
I'm really shocked that your answer and other Christians isn't simply - yes - that was rubbish and he shouldn't be spreading such lies in the name of Christianity.
This has been my experience with Christianity and why I ultimately opted to not call myself a Christian anymore - I just can't stomach this hate and vitriol that's wrapped in the cloak of piousness.
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Obviously people pushing things like hate,violence, child abuse, marital abuse, genocide, torture, discrimination and a cart full of other evils have no problem quoting the bible to support their position. When people do this they need to be called out and made to face the consequences of their choices to abuse the truth. just like when you take that sentiment and twist it into the suggestion that no one will be allowed to quote the bible needs to called out.
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