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How many Mormon temples have these statues on them?

The Salt Lake Temple, dedicated in 1893, was the first temple topped with an angel that was formally identified as Moroni. The original 40-inch plaster model was completed by 4 October 1891 and exhibited at the Salt Lake Fair. A full-size model was sent to Salem, Ohio, where the statue was hammered out of copper and covered with 22-karat gold leaf. The 12-foot-5-inch statue stands on a stone ball on the 210-foot central spire on the east side.

The Los Angeles Temple, dedicated in 1956, was the second temple to be dressed with an angel Moroni statue. Millard F. Malin made the plaster casts of his 15-foot-5-inch statue in Salt Lake City. These casts were sent in five pieces to New York City, where they were cast in aluminum and welded together. The statue was made of aluminum instead of bronze to meet the Los Angeles building code. Even so, the statue weighed 2,100 pounds.

The Washington D.C. Temple, dedicated in 1974, was the third temple to be topped with an angel Moroni statue. Nine sculptors submitted designs. Avard Fairbanks’s design of a graceful angel holding a trumpet to its lips and a replica of the gold plates in its left arm was selected.
Angel Moroni Statues on LDS Temples

"The message of the gospel of Jesus Christ includes what happened on the cross, but this message and meaning is within each of us and requires no external symbol to manifest our faith. "
The Meaning of the Cross for Latter-day Saints

Oh, really? This is the symbol on my sister's headstone:
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(She was a Mormon in name only.)
 
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Bern Switzerland Temple - Wikipedia
How many Mormon temples have these statues on them?

The Salt Lake Temple, dedicated in 1893, was the first temple topped with an angel that was formally identified as Moroni. The original 40-inch plaster model was completed by 4 October 1891 and exhibited at the Salt Lake Fair. A full-size model was sent to Salem, Ohio, where the statue was hammered out of copper and covered with 22-karat gold leaf. The 12-foot-5-inch statue stands on a stone ball on the 210-foot central spire on the east side.

The Los Angeles Temple, dedicated in 1956, was the second temple to be dressed with an angel Moroni statue. Millard F. Malin made the plaster casts of his 15-foot-5-inch statue in Salt Lake City. These casts were sent in five pieces to New York City, where they were cast in aluminum and welded together. The statue was made of aluminum instead of bronze to meet the Los Angeles building code. Even so, the statue weighed 2,100 pounds.

The Washington D.C. Temple, dedicated in 1974, was the third temple to be topped with an angel Moroni statue. Nine sculptors submitted designs. Avard Fairbanks’s design of a graceful angel holding a trumpet to its lips and a replica of the gold plates in its left arm was selected.
Angel Moroni Statues on LDS Temples

"The message of the gospel of Jesus Christ includes what happened on the cross, but this message and meaning is within each of us and requires no external symbol to manifest our faith. "
The Meaning of the Cross for Latter-day Saints

Oh, really? This is the symbol on my sister's headstone:
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(She was a Mormon in name only.)
the Bible frowns on statues of things of Heaven.
 
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Bern Switzerland Temple - Wikipedia
How many Mormon temples have these statues on them?

The Salt Lake Temple, dedicated in 1893, was the first temple topped with an angel that was formally identified as Moroni. The original 40-inch plaster model was completed by 4 October 1891 and exhibited at the Salt Lake Fair. A full-size model was sent to Salem, Ohio, where the statue was hammered out of copper and covered with 22-karat gold leaf. The 12-foot-5-inch statue stands on a stone ball on the 210-foot central spire on the east side.

The Los Angeles Temple, dedicated in 1956, was the second temple to be dressed with an angel Moroni statue. Millard F. Malin made the plaster casts of his 15-foot-5-inch statue in Salt Lake City. These casts were sent in five pieces to New York City, where they were cast in aluminum and welded together. The statue was made of aluminum instead of bronze to meet the Los Angeles building code. Even so, the statue weighed 2,100 pounds.

The Washington D.C. Temple, dedicated in 1974, was the third temple to be topped with an angel Moroni statue. Nine sculptors submitted designs. Avard Fairbanks’s design of a graceful angel holding a trumpet to its lips and a replica of the gold plates in its left arm was selected.
Angel Moroni Statues on LDS Temples

"The message of the gospel of Jesus Christ includes what happened on the cross, but this message and meaning is within each of us and requires no external symbol to manifest our faith. "
The Meaning of the Cross for Latter-day Saints

Oh, really? This is the symbol on my sister's headstone:
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(She was a Mormon in name only.)
(New Testament | Revelation 14:6)

6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,
 
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Does that include crosses?
Now finally a relevant question;

14 Types of Ancient Christian Crosses

This tells us a Cross was used that predates when Christ walked the earth. Early Christians identified each other with a fish symbol and a cross was soon adapted.

A fictitious Angel Moroni with also his fictitious gold plates in hand, there is a HUGE problem.

By the way crosses are generally wooden or some type of iron on most churches while a gold -plated Moroni is reminiscent of when Moses came down from the Mountain with the Ten Commandments in hand, And then he found the Israelites had made a gold calf while he delayed from coming down off the Mountain---- Exodus 32

The element used is the main problem for this false idol.
Exodus 20:23
You shall not make anything to be with Me—gods of silver or gods of gold you shall not make for yourselves.

Angel Moroni Statues on LDS Temples

This tells us the Church's main temple in Salt Lake City, with it's angel, is still covered with 22- karat gold leaf. From your Church's own source--btw.
 
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have you met a baptist who said that before? :D

I've known very few Baptists.

I met someone who said that we shouldn't have pictures of God or Jesus; she didn't tell me her denomination. And "Reformed" Christians cite the Heidelberg Catechism.

My neighbor frequently took me to a United Methodist church when I was in ninth grade.

Our Wesleyan pastor had a nativity set in his home and angels on the Christmas tree.

" A Christmas tradition in New Bern for the past 58 years has been a living nativity in front of Centenary United Methodist Church."
Centenary Methodist continues living nativity tradition

"Newton United Methodist Church performed a living nativity earlier this month to share the Christ story with the community."
https://www.newtoncountyappeal.com/...performs-living-nativity#sthash.SX2aa04o.dpbs

"Tyro UMC begins preparations for ‘Journey to Bethlehem’"
Tyro UMC begins preparations for 'Journey to Bethlehem'


This is definitely not a debate! I was just surprised by what you said.

Back to the OP: Why do Mormons really hate the cross?
 
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Now finally a relevant question;

14 Types of Ancient Christian Crosses

This tells us a Cross was used that predates when Christ walked the earth. Early Christians identified each other with a fish symbol and a cross was soon adapted.

A fictitious Angel Moroni with also his fictitious gold plates in hand, there is a HUGE problem.

By the way crosses are generally wooden or some type of iron on most churches while a gold -plated Moroni is reminiscent of when Moses came down from the Mountain with the Ten Commandments in hand, And then he found the Israelites had made a gold calf while he delayed from coming down off the Mountain---- Exodus 32

The element used is the main problem for this false idol.
Exodus 20:23
You shall not make anything to be with Me—gods of silver or gods of gold you shall not make for yourselves.

Angel Moroni Statues on LDS Temples

This tells us the Church's main temple in Salt Lake City, with it's angel, is still covered with 22- karat gold leaf. From your Church's own source--btw.

But they don't worship Moroni.
 
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But they don't worship Moroni.

That may be true, but thus is a false idol, or really a graven image nevertheless.
Exodus 20:23
You shall not make anything to be with Megods of silver or gods of gold you shall not make for yourselves.

The very fact that Moroni is a fictitious character and covered in gold and displayed prominently- makes him a false idol.

By the way, Mormons will tell you his statue is only a symbol, but in reality the angel Moroni is really a graven image. We can go onto discussing symbols versus graven images--- both made out of gold in another thread in another place.

Our God is a jealous God---- Exodus 34:14
 
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That may be true, but thus is a false idol, or really a graven image nevertheless.
Exodus 20:23
You shall not make anything to be with Megods of silver or gods of gold you shall not make for yourselves.

The very fact that Moroni is a fictitious character and covered in gold and displayed prominently- makes him a false idol.

By the way, Mormons will tell you his statue is only a symbol, but in reality the angel Moroni is really a graven image. We can go onto discussing symbols versus graven images--- both made out of gold in another thread in another place.

Our God is a jealous God---- Exodus 34:14

In the event that Judgement Day comes and you find Moroni making the announcement, what would you do?
 
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In the event that Judgement Day comes and you find Moroni making the announcement, what would you do?

Take my bet with unbeatable odds---that my former Church is wrong. I have sufficiently tested the Mormons Church.

1 Thessalonians 5:21
Test all things; hold fast what is good.
 
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Now finally a relevant question;

14 Types of Ancient Christian Crosses

This tells us a Cross was used that predates when Christ walked the earth. Early Christians identified each other with a fish symbol and a cross was soon adapted.

A fictitious Angel Moroni with also his fictitious gold plates in hand, there is a HUGE problem.

By the way crosses are generally wooden or some type of iron on most churches while a gold -plated Moroni is reminiscent of when Moses came down from the Mountain with the Ten Commandments in hand, And then he found the Israelites had made a gold calf while he delayed from coming down off the Mountain---- Exodus 32

The element used is the main problem for this false idol.
Exodus 20:23
You shall not make anything to be with Me—gods of silver or gods of gold you shall not make for yourselves.

Angel Moroni Statues on LDS Temples

This tells us the Church's main temple in Salt Lake City, with it's angel, is still covered with 22- karat gold leaf. From your Church's own source--btw.
We don't worship the angel Moroni or his statue. He is not our God, God the Father is our God.
 
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That may be true, but thus is a false idol, or really a graven image nevertheless.
Exodus 20:23
You shall not make anything to be with Megods of silver or gods of gold you shall not make for yourselves.

The very fact that Moroni is a fictitious character and covered in gold and displayed prominently- makes him a false idol.

By the way, Mormons will tell you his statue is only a symbol, but in reality the angel Moroni is really a graven image. We can go onto discussing symbols versus graven images--- both made out of gold in another thread in another place.

Our God is a jealous God---- Exodus 34:14
So why wear a gold cross?
 
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We don't worship the angel Moroni or his statue. He is not our God, God the Father is our God.


If you had paid attention to another post, you would realize Moroni is a graven image.
 
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