Theology behind prepping and even investment in general

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Now look at the above chart versus the SPY fund, and see the smoothing, which is important so you don't stop out, which I explain in document:

This is spy, look at the dips on it.... not as smooth...

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I think God orders our steps. I think that with God no recession can take down a follower of God. He provides for His own.

Psalm 37:25
I have been young, and now am old; yet have I not seen the righteous forsaken, nor his seed begging bread.
 
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we have been in a pull back since august on many funds, and a depression since 2008:
StockTrader4God

also for people who like to add gold to portfolio:
Gold has bottomed for the year- Interesting article:
this website uses a proprietary software that says that gold is in it's seasonal dip right now, as well as silver and other metals. The Strongest Seasonal Advance in Precious Metals Begins Now

But again non of this is advice, and I typically just mention this stuff to non christians I know. I just thought I would post it here too, just FYI. But ultimately for the Christian the best thing they can do to get out of financial or economic ruts, is to repent of any known sin. Be it pride, lust, covetousness, and follow the Gospel of Jesus Christ. I myself am working on this. I fight covetousness. I don't watch sports much but I watch financial channels. Watching finances so much causes me to desire wealth. And I realize this about myself. So every day I have to step back and realize the broader picture. We plant, but the Lord gives the increase. If there is no increase in our lives there is a reason. Either some disobedience or a greater plan of God to use our weakness for His strength.
 
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we have been in a pull back since august on many funds, and a depression since 2008:
StockTrader4God

also for people who like to add gold to portfolio:
Gold has bottomed for the year- Interesting article:
this website uses a proprietary software that says that gold is in it's seasonal dip right now, as well as silver and other metals. The Strongest Seasonal Advance in Precious Metals Begins Now

But again non of this is advice, and I typically just mention this stuff to non christians I know. I just thought I would post it here too, just FYI. But ultimately for the Christian the best thing they can do to get out of financial or economic ruts, is to repent of any known sin. Be it pride, lust, covetousness, and follow the Gospel of Jesus Christ. I myself am working on this. I fight covetousness. I don't watch sports much but I watch financial channels. Watching finances so much causes me to desire wealth. And I realize this about myself. So every day I have to step back and realize the broader picture. We plant, but the Lord gives the increase. If there is no increase in our lives there is a reason. Either some disobedience or a greater plan of God to use our weakness for His strength.

God has richly blessed me. I will reach my retirement savings goal next April. I will then turn my attention to helping my kids, both of whom are struggling. I will also increase my charitable giving.

You "don't muzzle the ox that treads out the grain." Great wisdom there.
 
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God has richly blessed me. I will reach my retirement savings goal next April. I will then turn my attention to helping my kids, both of whom are struggling. I will also increase my charitable giving.

You "don't muzzle the ox that treads out the grain." Great wisdom there.
Sounds like God has blessed you. Now you can pass on the blessings. I was just thinking if I was to get out of our financial rut, who I would help out. It's fun to think that you can be used by God in that way.
 
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Sounds like God has blessed you. Now you can pass on the blessings. I was just thinking if I was to get out of our financial rut, who I would help out. It's fun to think that you can be used by God in that way.

My priorities, in order: Myself, family, others.
 
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Last post of 2019! Someone texted me and asked if I used investing.com, so i wanted to talk about that for a little bit. For a few years investing.com was the only place I charted stocks. Trading view is a good place to compare stocks at too, less adds than investing.com. but if you look up a stock on investing.com and go to chart and click "fundamental" it will let you see if it is a buy or sell (based on like five indicators). Just check monthly and weekly and daily. Monthly is yearly trend, weekly is monthly trend or medium term trend and daily is short term trend for entry and exit. You want all time periods at a buy before you get in. That is harder said than done, requires checking regularly. There are also some finfiz screener inputs that are helpful, as it sort of automates when a price is oversold on RSI etc, or below a MACD or has just crossed over. That is nice. I will include those links below. But trend lines are much more accurate than even those indicators, and you don't have to check back all the time. That is why I only chart now, I don't use indicators at all. You can also use fibonacci retracements , and moving average lines as well. I tend to think moving average levels get hit more than retracement percentages, but that is just my experience. Anyway, I will post the links to how to use trend lines, and then below that I will post some screeners and preset configurations I have made so you can check those too. Happy new year.


Finviz screeners:


Stock Screener - Overview usa o2000 o10 dup cross50a mo2 price


Now this is only to show you how a well priced stock should look. Not all of the hits on these screeners are buys, you must chart them. Some are just diving. But it sort of reveals an oversold fund and how you can see that they look much different than a fund just skyrocketing up. Usually you only can get a small gain at the bottom on the way up, then you get out. Numerous buys and sells. That is how daytrading works. It's hard to do, but some wish to know how to do it. Anyway you can also use this on swing trading.


See below for "stock school" and watch those videos if you wish to learn the most accurate way to chart. (they take a maybe two hours at the most)

But book mark them and then learn them slowly at your own pace. These by far are more accurate than guessing at the chart, assuming price will go up or down, that truly is gambling.


The more investing experience you have you may want to explore forex, or futures or options, and trend line charting methods are universal to all charts.


Forex for example alows like 100 to 1 leverage, or something like that. That means that for every dollar invested, you can borrow a hundred. But that is called margin, and I don't recommend trading on margin. But if you are very very sure of your odds on some pitch, you can increase your profit on things like futures and forex. Stocks has margin as well, I think etrade allows 300% or something. So the difficulty in trading is as follows....stocks are the easiest, then options, then futures then forex. And I organized it based on maximum leverage or margin. Forex you can spend a 1000 and trade 100,000 in your account but every time you lose 5% you are actually losing 500% or five times your initial deposit (or basically you will owe the broker 4000 dollars if your fund went down 5%). So keep that in mind. That is why I mention it as the most difficult simply because it has the highest risk. Stocks can also have leverage. I talk about 3X stocks like UPRO, or for Gold you have JNUG. Those are very volitile funds and for high risk I don't see a need for forex or futures, unless you really really know what you are doing and are like 99% sure that a fund will move a certain direction, then forex can work for you. I think what people do with leverage is as soon as the trade goes against them, they get out. But you would not know if it goes against you if you are not using trend line analysis. So you need a trading plan. So watch the video's below and get a plan set up. do your charting, try the screener and plug in some of the funds into your charting software and play around with trend lines and see if they are buys or sells. I hope that helps.



BTW I use think or swim platform for my charting needs, but I used investing.com for years. And I like trading view too.

Here is a link that has many awesome links and helps regarding stock trading school:
(If you like this video I have several smaller videos that talk about trend lines)

 
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This is two weeks old but in a few weeks when I am on a night schedule and have more time on a computer I will post another update:

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value line (VALUG) has broke out of downward trend this last several weeks to month, so the august downtrend is broken.
 
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No Godliness will not make you wealthy. Many name it and claim it pastors now days with "word faith' teaching, declare to "speak to your billfold and it will be full."

This hit me hard today. I was reading a book by June Hunt and it hit hard when she said that Godliness will not make you wealthy. See in the old testament, it actually says if you follow God it will relate to wisdom and thus to wealth and health. But in the new testament we see conflicting passages regarding this, in the new testament it says if you give away you will have more, and the last will be first. Not the ones with the rich premium seats in the concert hall but the average old nose bleed sections, those people in last place will be first in the Kingdom. I think it's important to see the new testament view of things. Money is not sin, but the love of money brings all forms of evil.

Here is a commentary on 1 Timothy 6:5 be careful of those who say godliness is "great gain." From such turn away.

Who suppose that godliness is a means of gain: This is another characteristic of those who misuse God’s truth. Their interest in the things of God is not entirely for God’s glory, but motivated in part by desire for wealth and comfort.

i. “For these men all Christianity is to be measured by the gains it brings... Paul forbids the servants of Christ to have any dealings with such men.” (Calvin)

ii. Very commonly, Christianity is presented today on the basis of what you will gain by following Jesus: personal success and happiness, a stronger family, a more secure life. These things may be true to some degree, but we must never market the gospel as a product that will fix every life problem.

iii. When the gospel is marketed this way, it makes followers of Jesus who are completely unprepared for tough times. After all, if the “Jesus product” isn’t working, why not try another brand? Also, this sales approach takes the focus off Jesus Himself, and puts the focus on what He will give us. Many have their hearts set on the blessings, not the One who blesses us.

iv. While not ignoring the blessings of following Jesus Christ, we must proclaim the need to follow Jesus because He is God, and we owe Him everything as our Creator. What is right before God, and what glorifies Him, is more important than whatever benefit we may gain.

v. We need to see Christians who are more concerned with what glorifies God than with what benefits me.

h. From such withdraw yourself: Timothy is told to deliberately not associate with those who receive or present the gospel with this kind of marketing approach.

i. “He does not only forbid Timothy from imitating them, but tells him to avoid them as harmful pests. Although they do not openly oppose the Gospel, but make a profession of it, yet their company is infectious. Besides, if the crowd sees us to be familiar with these men, there is a danger that they will use our friendship to insinuate themselves into its favour. We should therefore take great pains to make everyone understand that we are quite different from them, and have nothing at all in common with them.” (Calvin)

2. (1Ti 6:6) The true gain of godliness.

Now godliness with contentment is great gain.

a. Now godliness: Paul told Timothy that those who misuse God’s Word wrongly think godliness is a means of material gain. Knowing his statement might be misunderstood, he followed up with an explanation.

b. Now godliness with contentment is great gain: It is true that godliness is great gain; but only when accompanied by contentment.

i. “The word here used for contentment is autarkeia... By it they meant a complete self-sufficiency. They meant a frame of mind which was completely independent of all outward things, and which carried the secret of happiness within itself. Contentment never comes from the possession of external things.” (Barclay)

c. With contentment: When one does not live by “the itch for more,” and one’s life is not dominated by shopping for and acquiring material things, we can have the kind of contentment in God and in His will for our lives.

i. This is a slippery area in the Christian life. It is very easy to come up with reasons – excuses, that is – why these sins of greed and materialism don’t apply to us. But whenever we think getting something material, or getting more of it, will answer our life’s needs, we lack this contentment. Whenever we are deeply grieved at material loss, we lack this contentment. Whenever we get an inordinate pleasure from buying or having some material thing, we lack this contentment.

d. Godliness with contentment is great gain: Paul knew this kind of contentment first hand; here is his testimony in Philippians 4:11-13: Not that I speak in regard to need, for I have learned in whatever state I am, to be content: I know how to be abased, and I know how to abound. Everywhere and in all things I have learned both to be full and to be hungry, both to abound and to suffer need. I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me.

i. It is true that material possessions in and of themselves do not corrupt us; Paul could abound in material things and still keep it all in proper perspective. But too many use this truth to excuse their own materialism and carnal lack of contentment.

ii. Contentment is essential, and difficult for many reasons:

· We can only find contentment when our hearts are rooted in eternal things; and contentment is essential because it shows we are living with an eternal perspective, not only trying to feather an earthly nest.
· It is hard to be content, because our consumer culture feeds our lack of contentment, by rewarding us when we are discontent, and with advertising that tries to make us feel discontent without a product.
· It is hard to be content, because we almost always desire far more than we need.
e. Godliness with contentment is great gain: Godliness really can bring almost unbelievable contentment; but before it can, we must be transformed by the renewing of your mind (Romans 12:2) – to start putting material things in their proper priority next to spiritual things.

i. It’s easy for many Christians to say they have this contentment; but whether they have it or not is often more truthfully known by they spending and shopping habits. How much of a place does shopping and buying have in your life? How does material loss affect your happiness? How happy do you get from having some material thing?

ii. When we live and act without contentment, we are trying to fill needs in our lives – a need to be “somebody,” a need to feel secure or cared for, a need to have excitement and newness in our lives – most people try to fulfill these needs with material things, but they can only really be met by a spiritual relationship with the God who made us.

iii. Real contentment isn’t too difficult for those whose real home is heaven. “It requires but little of this world’s goods to satisfy a man who feels himself to be a citizen of another country, and knows that this is not his rest.” (Clarke)
 
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I am not posting advice on stocks to buy, all I am saying is that the market is looking really overweight right now, keep a close eye on investments over the next few weeks for sure. So market dropped 1% today, many mutual funds high in equity fell 1 to 2%. So with a 9% drop potentially, you are looking at a 20% loss on a high equity allocated mutual fund in a 401k. Over the next few weeks. This is only hypothetical but the charts are showing some overweight buying euphoria, I posted this yesterday before the 1% drop today. Many many many investors are still bullish right now. But look at this chart, see how it looks. You tell me. Is that a market that will keep going up indefinitely or will it need a 5%-10% correction or worse? Relaying to a 10-15% correction in mutual funds that are in risky equity. (high risk mutuals). My bearish play on another fund made 7.5% today, I am expecting that put to do very well in coming weeks.

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Godly Financial advice (todays devotion):

Material riches are not a sign of God's blessings. Poverty is not a sign of God's disfavour. It is God who makes people rich & poor for His purposes. We are not to question Him about that.

“The LORD maketh poor and maketh rich: he bringeth low, and lifteth up.” - (1 Sam 2:7)

I used to think a blessed person was someone who achieved their goal, realized their dream or life looked the way they wanted it. But really, a blessed person is someone who’s been awakened to their hunger for Christ & is now ready to be filled with him alone.

It's always important to keep that in the front of our mind as we deal with sensitive issues such as financial stuff, jobs, the accumulation of "things."
 
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A Good message for Christians and investors in general:

I gleaned this from a message from our youth pastor:

Your devotion to God is forged in your solitude, not in your sacrifice but in your solitude. Your religion is what you do with your solitude. What you wake up thinking about? What you day dream about? What you go to bed thinking about? That is your religion.

"Hell and Destruction are never full; So the eyes of man are never satisfied."

Proverbs 27:20 nkjv



It's important to note that Hell and Destruction are two words, and their are two eyes on our face as well. We would be wise to label each eye hell and destruction, because that is what lust is. It can be financial lust, or inappropriate contentography, or simply lusting over a car, a house, an asset or a job. The eyes don't care what they look at. It the eyes can lust at something they will always choose lust over contentment. So sometimes we just have to nip that in the bud. If you go to bed worrying about your finances. If you are dreaming of a better life. If you day dream of becoming rich and famous. You are falling prey to proverbs 27:20. Hell and Destruction are never full. It does not matter how much inappropriate content you watch, the eyes will never come to a point where it says "that is enough." "I am full now." No, they are never full. Because lust is from Hell and as the verse says Hell is never full To trust in the Lord and be content is awesome, and shows incredible spiritual maturity.

"I know how to be abased, and I know how to abound. Everywhere and in all things I have learned both to be full and to be hungry, both to abound and to suffer need."
Phillipians 4:12-13 nkjv


Sometimes we look at real estate, stocks, IRA's and pensions as insurance against a collapse, so we justify our lust of anxiety over the markets and lust over the charts every day....but that is not how it should be. God is on the throne. Think back as far as you can....when have you ever starved or gone without? Never. God won't start today....Seek God, follow Him alone with all your heart and all this will be added in time as God desires it to be. Psalm 37:3-7 says He will give us the desires of our heart, but not if it shipwrecks our faith in pride and the haughtiness of success.

"Let your conduct be without covetousness; be content with such things as you have. For He Himself has said, “I will never leave you nor forsake you.”
Hebrews 13:5 nkjv


Here in this passage it indicates the difference between being a good steward of what God has given you, and lusting for more of it...

"Now godliness with contentment is great gain. For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out. And having food and clothing, with these we shall be content. But those who desire to be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and harmful lusts which drown men in destruction and perdition. For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil, for which some have strayed from the faith in their greediness, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows. Now godliness with contentment is great gain."
1Timothy 6:6-10 nkjv

I used to think a blessed person was someone who achieved their goal, realized their dream or life looked the way they wanted it. But really, a blessed person is someone who’s been awakened to their hunger for Christ & is now ready to be filled with him alone.


It's not about what you have, it's about who has you.

And Jesus said to them, “Take heed and beware of covetousness, for one’s life does not consist in the abundance of the things he possesses.” Luke 12:15 nkjv

In fact Paul realized the pride of success and said that He "boasted in infirmities." If we humble ourselves, and literally humiliate ourselves for the purpose of breaking us down, this will ensure against pride. (not in the bad sense of humiliate, it's not shaming ourselves, but being honest about weaknesses,)

And He said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for My strength is made perfect in weakness.” Therefore most gladly I will rather boast in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me. Therefore I take pleasure in infirmities, in reproaches, in needs, in persecutions, in distresses, for Christ’s sake. For when I am weak, then I am strong."- 2 Corinthians 12:9-10 nkjv

Being content in Christ does not mean you are satisfied with your situation, but it does mean you are satisfied with Christ. Satan seeks to defeat you by tempting you to trust your own wisdom, to live according to your self-centered feelings and to gratify your flesh.
 
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Gold breaks out, Bitcoin reverses... ( I don't do futures trading, but I chart the futures for a variety of reasons), but anyway here are some possible scenarios for Gold and bicoin. The futures relays to the actual fund for the most part. I will post when I see them dip.

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here is an updated budgeting/ investing resource I just updated today with new charts and some new insights, check it out when you have time, this one savings below is one addition:
Recession

here is a pdf:
Recession (converted).pdf

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Hi brother!

Thanks for share your thoughts! I also think that "what you fear is what you worship" so we need to honestly check what are we afraid for and analyze if this fear is rational or irrational, by comparison with what Jesus taught, so we can know if it is something constructive or not, if it will lead us closer to God or if it is a distraction and an expression of lack of faith in the real God.

With regards to economy and finances, is more than interesting that Jesus himself spoke more of money than any other thing... but most of people ignore or disobey what he really taught about it. Why is this? Because Jesus directly challenge our greed (the root of all evil), and He asks us to stop working for money and material possessions and start working for LOVE (building the Kingdom of God in this earth) instead; He asks us to trust in God for our daily provision and to not put our trust in the uncertain riches of this world. He command us to forsake all, sell everything that we own and give to the needy, and He bless us when we are poor in spirit, but He warns us about the tribulation that will come over the rich. He encourages us to lift up our head and see far beyond this temporary life, and invest in something more precious and long lasting: THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN.

Jesus brought us a very ambitious vision with a radical economy based entirely on faith in God and love. And when we honestly look at it, we realise that it is the wisest and most sustainable way of living. But we need to really repent of our own greed and start to obey Jesus if we want to be part of His Kingdom.

I hope this can help us to deeply meditate about this issue so we can start living by faith in God right now and be better prepared for the times of tribulation. :angel: Be blessed!
 

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Hi brother!

Thanks for share your thoughts! I also think that "what you fear is what you worship" so we need to honestly check what are we afraid for and analyze if this fear is rational or irrational, by comparison with what Jesus taught, so we can know if it is something constructive or not, if it will lead us closer to God or if it is a distraction and an expression of lack of faith in the real God.

With regards to economy and finances, is more than interesting that Jesus himself spoke more of money than any other thing... but most of people ignore or disobey what he really taught about it. Why is this? Because Jesus directly challenge our greed (the root of all evil), and He asks us to stop working for money and material possessions and start working for LOVE (building the Kingdom of God in this earth) instead; He asks us to trust in God for our daily provision and to not put our trust in the uncertain riches of this world. He command us to forsake all, sell everything that we own and give to the needy, and He bless us when we are poor in spirit, but He warns us about the tribulation that will come over the rich. He encourages us to lift up our head and see far beyond this temporary life, and invest in something more precious and long lasting: THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN.

Jesus brought us a very ambitious vision with a radical economy based entirely on faith in God and love. And when we honestly look at it, we realise that it is the wisest and most sustainable way of living. But we need to really repent of our own greed and start to obey Jesus if we want to be part of His Kingdom.

I hope this can help us to deeply meditate about this issue so we can start living by faith in God right now and be better prepared for the times of tribulation. :angel: Be blessed!
Yes I think the command to "sell all and give to the poor" was specifically to a rich young ruler, who had trusted in his success to gain merit in heaven. That command was not given to anyone else. But those things you go to bed thinking about, day dream about and wake up thinking about, those are your idols . ultimately we should seek His wisdom, the fear of God. That does not mean we cannot be successful, nor does it mean we cannot build wealth. But we should not be a prepper in a way, because we are trusting in mans and not God's wisdom, we do not trust in horses or chariots but in the Lord our God to provide for our needs. But as following Him results in blessing, and normally following Him does bless us in various ways, it is important to budget, and it it important to save for emergencies. What we don't want to do as christians is rack up our credit and simply have faith. That is not being a good steward of finance.

Two mentalities in today’s world:

western christianity: “God give me abundance, wealth, and good health.”

real christianity: “God strip me of my flesh. I desire to follow you despite what it will cost me. I rid myself of worldly pleasures bc you are my savior.”

which are you?

& to clarify-

God IS a God of abundance, His word says so.

God DOES bless His children but it may not look like it in human form.

Our heart posture is what I’m talkin’ about here. Where is our treasures at? What are our priorities? Have we made idols out of self?

Here is a devotion on being a good steward by Tony evans, I will post these more:

The first benefit to being a kingdom steward is receiving more answers to prayer. I recall a woman some years ago who needed a car. So, she prayed for one, but in that prayer, she got rather specific. She said, “God, I want a green and blue car. Those are my two favorite colors. I don’t know how to get that in a car, but it’s my specific request.” She went car hunting, and she found the perfect blue car. But because there was no green on it, she said, “God, I really do want blue and green.” I can tell you that she was not praying the prayer from the mindset of an owner. She had a steward’s heart and saw everything in her life as belonging to God. So, she spent some time debating with herself as to whether to buy the blue car or wait for her specific prayer to be answered. The salesman took her around the car, showed her everything, then lifted up the hood and the motor had been painted green. Because she held a steward’s view of everything in her life, God blessed her with answered prayer.

Many Christians don’t get their prayers answered because they approach God with the wrong mindset. They approach Him like they are the ones in control. Do you own your life? Are you the decision-maker? When you proceed from this false assumption, you end up looking to God as though His only role in your life is a giver of blessings.In other words, when you disregard God as the owner of all that is in your life, don’t expect Him to respond to your requests. But, when you treat God as the owner and you become the steward, He is much more interested in the conversation. That’s when you’ll get a specific answer to a specific request
 
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