Is land restoration a part of the new covenant?

Contenders Edge said:

How many DNA molecules do you need to qualify as a Gentile? Answer from scripture.

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I don't want to be a Jew. But what if my DNA test shows .001% Jewishness? Does that make me a Jew?

Answer from Scripture.

jgr said:

I don't want to be a Jew. But what if my DNA test shows .001% Jewishness? Does that make me a Jew?

Answer from Scripture.

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DNA is not your mother. Your mother is a person. If she is a Jew, then you are a Jew. Jew in this case is broadly meaning the Hebrew people of Israel and the twelve tribes from his 12 sons, who were descended from Abraham and Issac.

Goes back to the days of Nehemiah and Ezra. When Ezra found out that the caretaker Jews has taken foreign wives from the people not of the twelve tribes, during the exile, they shamed them into separating themselves from those wives and the children they had by them because it was the same path that Solomon had taken in the introduction of all the idols into the land of Israel, by taking non children of Israel wives.

The children of Israel were not supposed to intermarry with the peoples living in the promised land.

Ezra 9:10 And now, O our God, what shall we say after this? for we have forsaken thy commandments,

11 Which thou hast commanded by thy servants the prophets, saying, The land, unto which ye go to possess it, is an unclean land with the filthiness of the people of the lands, with their abominations, which have filled it from one end to another with their uncleanness.

12 Now therefore give not your daughters unto their sons, neither take their daughters unto your sons, nor seek their peace or their wealth for ever: that ye may be strong, and eat the good of the land, and leave it for an inheritance to your children for ever.

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Ezra 10:2 And Shechaniah the son of Jehiel, one of the sons of Elam, answered and said unto Ezra, We have trespassed against our God, and have taken strange wives of the people of the land: yet now there is hope in Israel concerning this thing.

10 And Ezra the priest stood up, and said unto them, Ye have transgressed, and have taken strange wives, to increase the trespass of Israel.

11 Now therefore make confession unto the LORD God of your fathers, and do his pleasure: and separate yourselves from the people of the land, and from the strange wives.

12 Then all the congregation answered and said with a loud voice, As thou hast said, so must we do.

44 All these had taken strange wives: and some of them had wives by whom they had children.

Douggg said:

DNA is not your mother. Your mother is a person. If she is a Jew, then you are a Jew. Jew in this case is broadly meaning the Hebrew people of Israel and the twelve tribes from his 12 sons, who were descended from Abraham and Issac.

Goes back to the days of Nehemiah and Ezra. When Ezra found out that the caretaker Jews has taken foreign wives from the people not of the twelve tribes, during the exile, they shamed them into separating themselves from those wives and the children they had by them because it was the same path that Solomon had taken in the introduction of all the idols into the land of Israel, by taking non children of Israel wives.

The children of Israel were not supposed to intermarry with the peoples living in the promised land.

Ezra 9:10 And now, O our God, what shall we say after this? for we have forsaken thy commandments,

11 Which thou hast commanded by thy servants the prophets, saying, The land, unto which ye go to possess it, is an unclean land with the filthiness of the people of the lands, with their abominations, which have filled it from one end to another with their uncleanness.

12 Now therefore give not your daughters unto their sons, neither take their daughters unto your sons, nor seek their peace or their wealth for ever: that ye may be strong, and eat the good of the land, and leave it for an inheritance to your children for ever.

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Ezra 10:2 And Shechaniah the son of Jehiel, one of the sons of Elam, answered and said unto Ezra, We have trespassed against our God, and have taken strange wives of the people of the land: yet now there is hope in Israel concerning this thing.

10 And Ezra the priest stood up, and said unto them, Ye have transgressed, and have taken strange wives, to increase the trespass of Israel.

11 Now therefore make confession unto the LORD God of your fathers, and do his pleasure: and separate yourselves from the people of the land, and from the strange wives.

12 Then all the congregation answered and said with a loud voice, As thou hast said, so must we do.

44 All these had taken strange wives: and some of them had wives by whom they had children.

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Jewish rabbis accept DNA tests.

jgr said:

Jewish rabbis accept DNA tests.

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What Jewish rabbi's? What is your source?

There are several sects to Judaism, orthodox, conservative, reform. If you go to any Jewish site, they will say a person is a Jew if their mother is a Jew, or has by a formal process converted to Judaism.

Douggg said:

What Jewish rabbi's? What is your source?

There are several sects to Judaism, orthodox, conservative, reform. If you go to any Jewish site, they will say a person is a Jew if their mother is a Jew, or has by a formal process converted to Judaism.

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Not only rabbis.

Aliyah to Israel by DNA test - Cohen, Decker, Pex & Brosh 03-3724722

"Section 4 of the Law of Citizenship states that anyone born to an Israeli mother or father, whether in Israel or abroad, is an Israeli citizen by birth."

jgr said:

Not only rabbis.

Aliyah to Israel by DNA test - Cohen, Decker, Pex & Brosh 03-3724722

"Section 4 of the Law of Citizenship states that anyone born to an Israeli mother or father, whether in Israel or abroad, is an Israeli citizen by birth."

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That article said a person cannot use DNA testing as proof for Israeli citizenship.

And you are citing a secular law.

Douggg said:

That article said a person cannot use DNA testing as proof for Israeli citizenship.

And you are citing a secular law.

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"A DNA test can be used to receive Israeli citizenship under certain circumstances. Specifically, a DNA test can conclusively prove that a person is the child of an Israeli citizen or of a person who is Jewish."

Israel is a secular state.

jgr said:

Will God do for the Gentiles what He will do for the Jews?

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That depends on whether you are asking in reference to:

1. Salvation and the promises pertaining to or:

2. A specific set of earthly blessings.

Contenders Edge said:

That depends on whether you are asking in reference to:

1. Salvation and the promises pertaining to or:

2. A specific set of earthly blessings.

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I'm asking in reference to DNA. Am I a Jew if I have .001% Jewish DNA?

keras said:

Heaven is never mentioned in Revealtion 7. You add that, to your discredit.
God's Throne is a Spiritual entity and can be anywjere and everywhere. The vast multitude of people in Revelation 7:9 are on earth, praising God for their protection and deliverance of the Day of fiery wrath, the just happened Sixth Seal event.

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The vast multitude of people are not the only ones at the throne of Christ. A multitude of angels are also present there as well. (Rev. 7:11) In what realm are angels constantly presenting themselves before Christ and worshipping Him? Heaven or earth?

jgr said:

I'm asking in reference to DNA. Am I a Jew if I have .001% Jewish DNA?

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Here is a link to an organization that might be able to answer your question. Feel free to let me know what answer they give you.

Jews for Jesus: Sharing Our Faith in Jesus as Messiah to our Jewish People

jgr said:

I don't want to be a Jew. But what if my DNA test shows .001% Jewishness? Does that make me a Jew?

Answer from Scripture.

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What if your DNA shows you to .001% Gentile? Does that make you a Gentile? Answer from scripture.

Contenders Edge said:

Here is a link to an organization that might be able to answer your question. Feel free to let me know what answer they give you.

Jews for Jesus: Sharing Our Faith in Jesus as Messiah to our Jewish People

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Nope. No DNA percentage or number of molecules given. They obviously don't know, or are afraid to disclose it.

Contenders Edge said:

What if your DNA shows you to .001% Gentile? Does that make you a Gentile? Answer from scripture.

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I need to know if I'm eligible for those "earthly blessings" to which you refer. Only the Jewish % or molecular threshold tells me that.

Answer from Scripture.

jgr said:

Nope. No DNA percentage or number of molecules given. They obviously don't know, or are afraid to disclose it.

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Did you even bother to ask them?

jgr said:

I need to know if I'm eligible for those "earthly blessings" to which you refer. Only the Jewish % or molecular threshold tells me that.

Answer from Scripture.

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Why don't you go get yourself a DNA test and you might get an answer to your question.

Contenders Edge said:

In Ezekiel chapter 37, reunification and land restoration are placed before spiritual restoration.

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The allegory of the 'dry bones' is referring to our present state of Spiritual 'dryness'.
As Ezekiel 37:11-14 says: .....I shall put My Spirit into you and you will come into life, then I shall settle you into all of the holy Land. Joel 2:27-29, Romans 9:24-26

Contenders Edge said:

And your claim that the nation of Israel was founded upon communistic ideals is absolutely preposterous since Israel had been a recognized nation once before and long before communism was ever conceived.

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The Jewish State of Israel, founded in 1948, was led by atheist communists, they organized the people into kibbutzim; basically communes. Today, they are more capitalistic, but remain God and Jesus rejecting.
It is your comment that is 'absolutely preposterous', as you show how biased and brainwashed about the Jews, that you are.

Contenders Edge said:

And no, prophecy does not predict their demise.

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Incredible!
Don't you even read the Prophesies? There are over 20 plain unfulfilled prophesies that say Judah will be Judged and only a remnant will survive. Romans 9:27 proves it.
Judah lost any claim to the Kingdom when they rejected Jesus. Matthew 21:43

Of course you must reject any Bible verse that contradicts your false beliefs. Sad really.

Contenders Edge said:

The vast multitude of people are not the only ones at the throne of Christ. A multitude of angels are also present there as well. (Rev. 7:11) In what realm are angels constantly presenting themselves before Christ and worshipping Him? Heaven or earth?

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The whole chapter of Revelation 7 takes place on earth. the first three verses set the location and it never changes. It is only those with another agenda who insert 'heaven' into the text.

It is in the Spiritual realm where God resides. Which can be seen from on earth if God wills it, as Ezekiel 1:1 and Stephen saw. Acts 7:56

Contenders Edge said:

Why don't you go get yourself a DNA test and you might get an answer to your question.

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It's not a DNA testing question.

It's a Scriptural and spiritual question.

Don't you know that?

Contenders Edge said:

Did you even bother to ask them?

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Did you? It's a critical question for a racialized dogma.

jgr said:

It's not a DNA testing question.

It's a Scriptural and spiritual question.

Don't you know that?

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You're the one who dragged DNA percentages into the matter.