Rand Paul : Trump's children should sue Schumer for defamation

Is Schumer going to end up getting himself into trouble?

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Seems Chuck just throws a lot of things out there that have absolutely no foundation and are not true. As explained in the video -- this one regarding Trump's children might come back to bite him?
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When someone throws in someone's children without any basis in an impeachment trial, that is like hitting someone below the belt in a foul blow, meant to demean children. He has stooped to a new low that parents from all walks of life should be outraged with.
 
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Seems Chuck just throws a lot of things out there that have absolutely no foundation and are not true. As explained in the video -- this one regarding Trump's children might come back to bite him?
M-Bob

Yes, yes, politicians children are clearly out of bounds...

Saying that Trump's kids are profiting off of Trump's Presidency is clearly over the line. Sort of like made up claims about Biden's son which have absolutely no foundation? We see the repeated claim from the right that he was a) unqualified and b) did nothing for Burisma, with absolutely nothing to support it. Heck, Rand Paul puts the hypocrisy of the right on full display right here!
 
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Perhaps if the Presidents “children” want to remain out of the limelight, they need to not be active parts of the Presidents administration.
 
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Yes, yes, politicians children are clearly out of bounds...

Saying that Trump's kids are profiting off of Trump's Presidency is clearly over the line. Sort of like made up claims about Biden's son which have absolutely no foundation? We see the repeated claim from the right that he was a) unqualified and b) did nothing for Burisma, with absolutely nothing to support it. Heck, Rand Paul puts the hypocrisy of the right on full display right here!

It's amazing that you guys could even try to compare the two.
That's alright -- nobody is truly fooled.
You are are sure making 2020 easy for Trump.
A replay that's even better.
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I always used to be a fan of Rand...perhaps that was just because I love Ron Paul. But it seems like he's fallen into the same no-win situation Lindsey Graham is in where he's been forced to abandon his principles in order to keep his voter base happy (since apparently unquestioned allegiance to Trump is now a 'requirement' in order to keep your 'true conservative' card)

Targeting the families of politicians has unfortunately become a status quo over the past decade, so for Rand to pretend to show outrage about questioning Trump family members, while seeming to not have an issue going after the Bidens, shows a great inconsistency on his part.

Unfortunately, Rand has been going down that rabbit hole more and more ever since Trump has been in office. I'm hoping that's not a sign of things to come...where there can't be any intra-party dissent. Intra-party dissent was one of the last hopes I had for our republic. Unfortunately, that seems to be diminishing in this heavily polarized environment.
 
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When someone throws in someone's children without any basis in an impeachment trial, that is like hitting someone below the belt in a foul blow, meant to demean children. He has stooped to a new low that parents from all walks of life should be outraged with.

I have a Mr. Hunter Biden on the phone; he wants to remind you what led to this whole brouhaha in the first place.
 
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It's amazing that you guys could even try to compare the two.
You're right, of course. Hunter Biden is a private citizen whereas Donald's daughter and eponymous son are in the public sphere. Eric also makes public announcements for his dad's campaign.

The other two keep to themselves and are rarely mentioned, almost never critically, as is appropriate.

Btw, for those of us who can't play videos, what did Schumer say that was 1) untrue and 2) defamatory?
 
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Targeting the families of politicians has unfortunately become a status quo over the past decade, so for Rand to pretend to show outrage about questioning Trump family members, while seeming to not have an issue going after the Bidens, shows a great inconsistency on his part.

Hogwash. If you watch the clip you will find that Paul took issue with an allegation absent evidence, which he called defamation. The idea that there is no evidence for corruption in Hunter Biden's case is is fantastical thinking. Even a state department official under the Obama administration raised similar concerns in 2015.
 
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It's amazing that you guys could even try to compare the two.
That's alright -- nobody is truly fooled.
You are are sure making 2020 easy for Trump.
A replay that's even better.
M-Bob

Don Jr is 42 and has 5 children. Ivanka is 38 and has 3 children. Eric is 36 and has 2 children. All of them campaign politically for their father and in Ivanka’s case hold positions in the White House. Don’t you think it’s a bit laughable to talk about them as ‘children’ and suggest they should somehow be off limits, when they spend large parts of their lives deliberately choosing to be part of their fathers political life?
 
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Don Jr is 42 and has 5 children. Ivanka is 38 and has 3 children. Eric is 36 and has 2 children. All of them campaign politically for their father and in Ivanka’s case hold positions in the White House. Don’t you think it’s a bit laughable to talk about them as ‘children’ and suggest they should somehow be off limits, when they spend large parts of their lives deliberately choosing to be part of their fathers political life?

Trump's kids have done nothing wrong. Biden's might be a different story????????

https://nypost.com/2019/12/23/hunter-bidens-baby-mama-says-hes-linked-to-multiple-criminal-probes/

Hunter Biden is the subject of multiple criminal investigations related to “fraud, money laundering and a counterfeiting scheme,” it’s claimed in court documents filed Monday in his Arkansas paternity case.

Biden and a group of business associates “established bank and financial accounts with Morgan Stanley … for Burisma Holdings Limited … for the money laundering scheme,” D&A claims, further alleging that the accounts showed an average account value of nearly $6.8 million between March 2014 and December 2015.

Biden and the others — including Devon Archer, John Galanis and Bevan Cooney — allegedly “utilized a counterfeiting scheme to conceal the Morgan Stanley et al Average Account Value,” D&A claims in the papers filed at the Circuit Court of Independence County, Arkansas.

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Creating a hot mess for Joe Biden as he hopes to enter the White House.
M-Bob
 
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Trump's kids have done nothing wrong. Biden's might be a different story????????

https://nypost.com/2019/12/23/hunter-bidens-baby-mama-says-hes-linked-to-multiple-criminal-probes/

Hunter Biden is the subject of multiple criminal investigations related to “fraud, money laundering and a counterfeiting scheme,” it’s claimed in court documents filed Monday in his Arkansas paternity case.

Biden and a group of business associates “established bank and financial accounts with Morgan Stanley … for Burisma Holdings Limited … for the money laundering scheme,” D&A claims, further alleging that the accounts showed an average account value of nearly $6.8 million between March 2014 and December 2015.

Biden and the others — including Devon Archer, John Galanis and Bevan Cooney — allegedly “utilized a counterfeiting scheme to conceal the Morgan Stanley et al Average Account Value,” D&A claims in the papers filed at the Circuit Court of Independence County, Arkansas.

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Creating a hot mess for Joe Biden as he hopes to enter the White House.
M-Bob

Did you even read your own link?

The claims were put forward by a Florida-based private-eye firm, D&A Investigations, in Biden’s ongoing case against alleged baby mama Lunden Alexis Roberts, a former Washington, DC, stripper who went by “Dallas.”

Soon after the claims were filed, a judge struck the allegations down because they were filed by an “intervener,” according to court papers.

Biden filed a motion to strike down the claims, arguing “the notice is filed by a non-party simply to make scandalous allegations in the pending suit to gain some media attention.”

So some Florida based private eye firm decided to claim Hunter Biden was under criminal investigation, despite the court case having nothing to do with them and them providing no actual evidence of this. They also didn’t bother to mention which law enforcement agencies are supposedly investigating.

Gosh Bob, you’re right! Lock him up! Lock him up!

By the way, until Trump’s tax returns are released I wouldn’t talk too much about what his kids have and haven’t done.
 
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Hogwash. If you watch the clip you will find that Paul took issue with an allegation absent evidence, which he called defamation. The idea that there is no evidence for corruption in Hunter Biden's case is is fantastical thinking. Even a state department official under the Obama administration raised similar concerns in 2015.

I did watch the clip...I saw him toeing the party line.

I'd argue that that China agreeing to give Ivanka 7 trademarks, around the exact same time as Trump vowing to help a Chinese telecomm company from going bust (even though even though the company has a history of violating American limits on doing business with countries like Iran and North Korea) constitutes justification for looking into Ivanka as much as looking into the Hunter Biden/Burisma connection.

The truth is, every son/daughter of a prominent politician has reaped benefits of the family name.

From Ron Reagan Jr (not being a particularly insightful political commentator), to Chelsea Clinton (winning a slew of awards despite not being particularly great at anything), to Jenna Bush get publishing deals (as a mediocre author at best) are all the result of who their parents are/were.


No matter how you slice it, being born into the direct lineage of a prominent political family has its advantages in both life an business. I'm a .net Technical Lead for a 300 million dollar a year company...if I were a president's son, I'd probably be the Chief Technical Officer for a Fortune 500 company. That's just the way it works...

To pretend that it's "not a big deal" for some people, but an "outrage" for others is a blatant double standard.
 
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I have a Mr. Hunter Biden on the phone; he wants to remind you what led to this whole brouhaha in the first place.

Joe Biden was never President! No Collusion! Lock Her Up!
 
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Did you even read your own link?



So some Florida based private eye firm decided to claim Hunter Biden was under criminal investigation, despite the court case having nothing to do with them and them providing no actual evidence of this. They also didn’t bother to mention which law enforcement agencies are supposedly investigating.

Gosh Bob, you’re right! Lock him up! Lock him up!

By the way, until Trump’s tax returns are released I wouldn’t talk too much about what his kids have and haven’t done.

Does anyone believe Hunter Biden to be innocent?

Did not even he himself say that he had made some mistakes?
It ain't over, it's just began.
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Does anyone believe Hunter Biden to be innocent?

Did not even he himself say that he had made some mistakes?
It ain't over, it's just began.
M-Bob

Innocent of what? What crime exactly is it that you’re accusing him of?
 
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https://nypost.com/2020/01/27/trump-lawyers-hunter-bidens-burisma-job-reason-enough-to-seek-probe/

President Trump’s impeachment defense team late Monday painstakingly scrutinized Hunter Biden’s high-paying job at Burisma, arguing that President Trump was right to be concerned about corruption involving the Ukrainian energy company for giving such a position to the then-vice president’s under-qualified son.

Trump lawyer Pam Bondi, the former Florida attorney general, linked Joe Biden’s official role with his son’s reported $50,000-a-month position on Burisma’s board.
 
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When someone throws in someone's children without any basis in an impeachment trial, that is like hitting someone below the belt in a foul blow, meant to demean children. He has stooped to a new low that parents from all walks of life should be outraged with.
Is all of this about Joe and Hunter Biden ?
 
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