Snakes with hind legs lasted 70 million years

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Dad thats exactly how early fish related to tiktaalik evolved into land vertebrates over millions of years . Adaptation is just successful evolution
Great. So created fish adapted. Nothing to do with the TOE beliefs.
 
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Evidence trumps beliefs. I believe you robbed a bank yesterday in Italy . And you can probably prove that you didn’t with evidence that you were nowhere near Italy . But since you think that beliefs are better than evidence you’re probably going to jail .

scientist have evidence for evolution. Your belief in pseudoscience is not going to trump that evidence. And your lack of understanding of that evidence just means that you just lack understanding not that evolution is a problem
 
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Evidence trumps beliefs.

Quoting a poster properly trumps posting into the void. That being said you have no evidence.

... you think that beliefs are better than evidence
Not for science claims!

You also believe in a same state past, so why would anyone take beliefs you state seriously when they cannot be backed up?
scientist have evidence for evolution
Evolution is not an issue here. Evolving is a created trait. The issue is you trying to claim that it is evolving that is what made man and all life on earth.

. Your belief in pseudoscience is not going to trump that evidence.
I have no belief in origin sciences or pseudoscience. Do not claim I do. You have no evidence to trump. You just thought you did.
And your lack of understanding of that evidence
Your lack of understanding that beliefs is not evidence is the problem here. Nothing else.
 
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The text itself says that; the DNA in Adam's body would have made Eve a male, not a female. So we know it wasn't a literal cloning.

The components needed to make Eve
were already in Adam’s cells.

All humans have 46 chromosomes, but sex is
determined by only two of them – called X and Y.
All God had to do is take out the Y and duplicate X.

God did not need to create any new material to make Eve, nor was Eve simply a clone of Adam – she was a creation of God, a different individual,
but still one flesh with Adam.

one of his ribs, H4480 H6763 God used a specific
bone that would also regenerate itself.
 
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Eden didn't have a sea, according to God. It was a garden, and of limited area.

Eden was a place, a garden was planted in
the eastward part of it. Genesis 2:8-10.
We have no idea how big The Land of Eden
was, or how far the ocean coast was to it.
 
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Eden was a place, a garden was planted in
the eastward part of it. Genesis 2:8-10.
We have no idea how big The Land of Eden
was, or how far the ocean coast was to it.
OR EVEN
if
there was any ocean yet?
Simply, what is not revealed by the Father is unknown, yes.
What the Father reveals to His children , is known. This is truth.
 
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OR EVEN if there was any ocean yet?
Simply, what is not revealed by the Father is unknown, yes.
What the Father reveals to His children , is known. This is truth.

Genesis 1:10 (KJV)

And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.

The rivers through Eden had to flow somewhere.
Ecclesiastes 1:7
 
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Eden was a place, a garden was planted in
the eastward part of it. Genesis 2:8-10.
We have no idea how big The Land of Eden
was, or how far the ocean coast was to it.

If you take the Genesis story as literal history, Eden was north of the Tigis and Euphrates rivers, both of which are said to come out of Eden.

Which would place Eden roughly in eastern Turkey somewhat west of Lake Van.
 
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If you take the Genesis story as literal history, Eden was north of the Tigis and Euphrates rivers, both of which are said to come out of Eden.

Which would place Eden roughly in eastern Turkey somewhat west of Lake Van.

We have no idea if the rivers courses today,
is the same as before the world wide flood.
 
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In which case, there's no way to support the belief that it was on a sea coast.

I agree

"We have no idea how big The Land of Eden
was, or [how far] the ocean coast was to it."

But the rivers through Eden would have
had to flow into the sea at some point.
 
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I agree

"We have no idea how big The Land of Eden
was, or [how far] the ocean coast was to it."

But the rivers through Eden would have
had to flow into the sea at some point.

No. Rivers in the Great Basin of the United States don't, for example.
 
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Well, there’s where you get your 70 million years, kids!
. We can actually get a several million years old earth from looking at the layers and figuring out how they formed . That will tell you how long it took also . A British scientist named William Pengelly, who lived in the 19th century, figured out that humans were on the earth a lot longer than 6000 years . Even if you go by how long it takes for a planet the size of earth to cool to its current temperature it’s several million years and neither of these takes radiodating into consideration.
 
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Great. So created fish adapted. Nothing to do with the TOE beliefs.
fish evolved from something that resembled a juvenile tunicate .
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. We can actually get a several million years old earth from looking at the layers and figuring out how they formed .

Yes, we can do that. All we need to do is assume that layers were put down in our present nature. Then we guess as to about how long that would coulda shoulda taken.
A British scientist named William Pengelly, who lived in the 19th century, figured out that humans were on the earth a lot longer than 6000 years . Even if you go by how long it takes for a planet the size of earth to cool to its current temperature it’s several million years and neither of these takes radiodating into consideration.
Yes, we could imagine that the earth started out real hot, then imagine how many years it woulda shoulda coulda taken to cool! Great fun.

Way to go Pengelly.
 
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In which case, there's no way to support the belief that it was on a sea coast.
Well, by guessing, it is true, you have no way. However we already know that sea creatures were created, so we could assume that the sea was near Eden. It is possible that some creatures came near shore, or walked on the beach to be named!? Ha
 
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No. Rivers in the Great Basin of the United States don't, for example.

I did not know that about the great basin.
Great Basin - Wikipedia
I do know the garden was not in the U.S.

I do know the Ogallala Aquifer could run out.
Crisis on the High Plains: The Loss of America’s Largest Aquifer – the Ogallala | University of Denver Water Law Review at the Sturm College of Law

Where are the rivers from Garden of eden now.
Two of the rivers most would agree on.
Tigris and Euphrates

I would think God obscured the exact location,
but is somewhere in that general vacinity.
Where Are the Four Rivers that Come from Eden?
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Tigris; The river flows south from the mountains of southeastern Turkey through Iraq and empties into the Persian Gulf.

Euphrates; Originating in the Armenian Highlands (eastern Turkey), the Euphrates flows through Syria and Iraq to join the Tigris in the Shatt al-Arab, which empties into the Persian Gulf.

The Persian Gulf is connected to the Indian Ocean through the Strait of Hormuz.

The Euphrates River is later mentioned in G‑d’s promise to Abraham regarding the Land of Israel, and is used as one of the defining borders of the Promised Land

Any exact place before the flood is guessing.

The Fertile Crescent could have been the area of
earliest human civilizations just after the garden.

https://www.history.com/topics/pre-history/fertile-crescent
"The Fertile Crescent is the boomerang-shaped region of the Middle East that was home to some of the earliest human civilizations.

Also known as the “Cradle of Civilization,”
 
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