Huge Gun-Lovers Rally on MLK Day - Not A Coincidence but By Design

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I can say that because regardless of how many times I’ve asked, you’ve not provided any. So we can either have this discussion about whether or not you have scripture, or you could just provide the scripture that you say you have.
And you have not provided me any scripures for your side of the argument as you cannot find any except that very weak argument somone posted in Luke 11;21 about guarding.

And, how would you know I have no scriptures? I already provided you and others with 10 or so. Am I having to do your work for you in going back through the thread?
Are you once again speaking for me with a falsehood?
I have a whole lot to share further {with scriptures] but only if someone wants to listen. Don't appear as if you do.

Like I say, you are taking your fight with God and His Holy Spirt that I can claim. Gosh, it seems I have to requalify things so people wont's go on with their assumptions.

But here is a sampler that I have repeated many times.
Matthew 24:12
And because lawlessness will abound, the love of many will grow cold.

Do you think this is somehow a future prophesy--fro Christ by the way?
 
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Seems once again people only see what they choose to see. Here is a sampler of what I have provided a number of times:

Matthew 24:12
And because lawlessness will abound, the love of many will grow cold.

Now do you think Christ warned us of this for another time--maybe some time in the future? And further do you NOT think more guns in a society is one evidence of that cold love?
Where’s the lawlessness? As far as I can tell, everyone at the rally obeyed the law.
 
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And you have not provided me any scripures for your side of the argument as you cannot find any except that very weak argument somone posted in Luke 11;21 about guarding.

And, how would you know I have no scriptures? I already provided you and others with 10 or so. Am I having to do your work for you in going back through the thread?
Are you once again speaking for me with a falsehood?
I have a whole lot to share further {with scriptures] but only if someone wants to listen. Don't appear as if you do.

Like I say, you are taking your fight with God and His Holy Spirt that I can claim. Gosh, it seems I have to requalify things so people wont's go on with their assumptions.

But here is a sampler that I have repeated many times.
Matthew 24:12
And because lawlessness will abound, the love of many will grow cold.

Do you think this is somehow a future prophesy--fro Christ by the way?
For the record, I’m not fighting with the Holy Spirit. My debate is with you.
 
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I should not have to explain this but here goes: to the extent that a gun is an exceedingly powerful and efficient mechanism for transforming hurtful intent into body counts, they are very much a huge part of the problem.
And constitutionally guaranteed right. Deal with it.
 
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For the record, I’m not fighting with the Holy Spirit. My debate is with you.

Same difference as I Claim the Holy Spirit
You get me and the Holy Spirit.
And you?

This is about why I can be bold---certainly not arrogant.

Hebrews 13:6
So we may boldly say: “The Lord is my helper; I will not fear. What can man do to me?”

And as to me not posting scripture like you would like---do try to understand my screen name which is with every post that I make.
 
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Where’s the lawlessness? As far as I can tell, everyone at the rally obeyed the law.

You seem to miss the point, It is in the reaction to this perceived lawlessness is where the cold love orginates. Two parts here

Matthew 24:12
And because lawlessness will abound, the love of many will grow cold.

Do you think this [sometimes perceived] lawlessness is the only thing that is producing this cold love?
 
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Same difference as I Claim the Holy Spirit
You get me and the Holy Spirit.
And you?

This is about why I can be bold---certainly not arrogant.

Hebrews 13:6
So we may boldly say: “The Lord is my helper; I will not fear. What can man do to me?”

And as to me not posting scripture like you would like---do try to understand my screen name which is with every post that I make.
Okay. You seem to want me to believe YOU because you say that you are led by the Spirit. Without you providing scripture to back your point, how can I possibly know this is true? There are many false prophets out there.
 
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You seem to miss the point, It is in the reaction to this perceived lawlessness is where the cold love orginates. Two parts here

Matthew 24:12
And because lawlessness will abound, the love of many will grow cold.

Do you think this [sometimes perceived] lawlessness is the only thing that is producing this cold love?
The verse doesn’t say anything about perceived lawlessness. Did the Spirit tell you to add to scripture?
 
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And constitutionally guaranteed right. Deal with it.
And let’s emphasize that the second amendment doesn’t give us the right. It protects us from the government taking that right away.
 
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If you have kids and someone breaks into your home, you going to say "wait, Mr.intruder until I get my gun, so I can shoot you".? As, hopefully you have your gun in a locked safe
That's not how we do things here. My kids are old enough to know what to do with a gun.
 
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Okay. You seem to want me to believe YOU because you say that you are led by the Spirit. Without you providing scripture to back your point, how can I possibly know this is true? There are many false prophets out there.

Well so far you have not been able to not shake me and you are still interested to respond---should that not be a couple of signs?

Romans 8:10
And if Christ is in you, the body is dead because of sin, but the Spirit is life because of righteousness

I solidly claim Christ and He is in me--therefore the results with the Spirit.

And yes there are many false prophets "out there". I can point to many. A prophet, by the way, is supposed to prophesy about the future. Many of them try to do that, but I deal with the right now.
 
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That's not how we do things here. My kids are old enough to know what to do with a gun.

And my 6 kids have all known what to do with a gun as well. But then you say "old enough"--how about when they were 2 or 3 or even 4 and very curious? Why do you think they sell gun safes---just for looks or for the guns people do not use at the moment? Trigger locks--you going to tell an intruder to "wait until I get my trigger lock off"? Or maybe "wait until I load my gun"
 
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You argue with me--you are really arguing with God.

If people pray to you are they also praying to God?

Seems once again people only see what they choose to see. Here is a sampler of what I have provided a number of times:

Matthew 24:12
And because lawlessness will abound, the love of many will grow cold.

Now do you think Christ warned us of this for another time--maybe some time in the future? And further do you NOT think more guns in a society is one evidence of that cold love?

Do you think gun ownership is a sign of the return of Christ? It seems that's what you're saying.
 
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Well so far you have not been able to not shake me and you are still interested to respond---should that not be a couple of signs?

Romans 8:10
And if Christ is in you, the body is dead because of sin, but the Spirit is life because of righteousness

I solidly claim Christ and He is in me--therefore the results with the Spirit.

And yes there are many false prophets "out there". I can point to many. A prophet, by the way, is supposed to prophesy about the future. Many of them try to do that, but I deal with the right now.
It’s not a sign. Don’t flatter yourself. However, it now should be obvious to anyone following that you have no scripture to back your assertions, and the only reason we should believe you is not because of scripture, but your unsubstantiated claim that your view is from the Holy Spirit.
 
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If people pray to you are they also praying to God?



Do you think gun ownership is a sign of the return of Christ? It seems that's what you're saying.

The first question is so outlandish that I laughed when I read it. You figure out why it is that.

2nd questions was a little more in point. No I do not know the immediate future as well as no one really know but I will tell you this:

Matthew 24:42
Watch therefore, for you do not know what hour your Lord is coming.

You or I could even die tomorrow. Should we NOT be prepared for either event---His Return of the mortality of us all?
 
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And constitutionally guaranteed right. Deal with it.
Fortunately, I am not an American, so I don’t need to “deal with it”.

But on the matter of the Constitution: it is not gospel - it represents the values of men living in a particular time and in a particular culture. No reasonable person would deny that things change, and that documents like your Constitution may need to change accordingly.
 
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Who claimed to be God? certainly not I.
He fills one with the Holy Spirit or do you not understand that very simple Promise
You claimed arguing with you was arguing with God. Hard to take anyone seriously who says that.
 
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Fortunately, I am not an American, so I don’t need to “deal with it”.

But on the matter of the Constitution: it is not gospel - it represents the values of men living in a particular time and in a particular culture. No reasonable person would deny that things change, and that documents like your Constitution may need to change accordingly.
That right is recognized by the constitution, not created by it. That right by definition does not change. I find it amusing that folks that say our constitution needs to change are from the same places that are sliding into totalitarianism. That’s not a coincidence.
 
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It’s not a sign. Don’t flatter yourself. However, it now should be obvious to anyone following that you have no scripture to back your assertions, and the only reason we should believe you is not because of scripture, but your unsubstantiated claim that your view is from the Holy Spirit.
Before I respod to this post let's back up to what yous said earlier

Hammster said:
Okay. You seem to want me to believe YOU because you say that you are led by the Spirit. Without you providing scripture to back your point, how can I possibly know this is true? There are many false prophets out there.

Just to be clear, are you inadvertently admitting that you have to be led by someone? Simple understanding of this verse tell WHO leads one to truth.

John 16:13
However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into ALL truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come.

That is why we need discernment

Philippians 1:9
And this I pray, that your love may abound still more and more in knowledge and all discernment

As to this post:

Yet you still keep responding when you could just walk away. And who has no scriptures to back up what they say?

Proverbs 1:7
The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge, But fools despise wisdom and instruction.

"I fear the Lord" and I try to gain wisdom and knowledge. you can work out the rest of that proverb---and just to be clear I DID NOT call you a what the rest of the verse says.
 
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