GOP senators unanimously vote against seeing evidence

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Vote now confirmed. No evidence to be subpoena’d from the State Department either. Nothing to see here..
The Democratic House was a day late and dollar short....guess that is what happens when they don't do their jobs.....
 
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So let him testify! Sadly, Donald Trump has been caught in a great many untruths. Granted some are out of his ignorance and poor education but a great many are indeed outright lies. As a narcissist he will lie to make himself look good --- he hardly even knows he's doing it.

What are you even talking about? Everything The Chosen One has said He will do has come to fulfillment. The Wall? It is done. Who paid for it? Mexico of course. Repeal Obamacare? Did it on day two. Better plan to replace Obamacare? Yep, I get a new liver for free every week because of my preexisting alcoholic condition. Hold China accountable? They are cowering in fear of our might. Scrap Iran plan? Yes sir! Eliminate Obama’s massive debt that he and he alone created from George W. Bushes’ massive surplus he gave Obama? Did it ages ago and we have the largest surplus in history. Rebuild all the alliances that Obama damages? Yep, Russia, North Korea and the Philippines are now stronger allies than ever before. Exposed how Hunter Biden and his dad almost destroyed Democracy? You know it as well as I that he did.

You need to stop listening to fake news and get the facts…
 
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The Democratic House was a day late and dollar short....guess that is what happens when they don't do their jobs.....

It’s hilarious watching you Trump supporters vigorously arguing in favour of not seeing evidence against your guy. This will all be remembered next time any of you try and take any kind of moral high ground against anyone.
 
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It’s hilarious watching you Trump supporters vigorously arguing in favour of not seeing evidence against your guy. This will all be remembered next time any of you try and take any kind of moral high ground against anyone.

I can't take the high ground on anyone. I'm just a sinner saved by grace.

And I know it.
 
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What are you even talking about? Everything The Chosen One has said He will do has come to fulfillment. The Wall? It is done. Who paid for it? Mexico of course. Repeal Obamacare? Did it on day two. Better plan to replace Obamacare? Yep, I get a new liver for free every week because of my preexisting alcoholic condition. Hold China accountable? They are cowering in fear of our might. Scrap Iran plan? Yes sir! Eliminate Obama’s massive debt that he and he alone created from George W. Bushes’ massive surplus he gave Obama? Did it ages ago and we have the largest surplus in history. Rebuild all the alliances that Obama damages? Yep, Russia, North Korea and the Philippines are now stronger allies than ever before. Exposed how Hunter Biden and his dad almost destroyed Democracy? You know it as well as I that he did.

You need to stop listening to fake news and get the facts…

I am sorry, I did not at first realize that this was a spoof. You should write for the Babylon Bee.
 
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What are you even talking about? Everything The Chosen One has said He will do has come to fulfillment. The Wall? It is done. Who paid for it? Mexico of course. Repeal Obamacare? Did it on day two. Better plan to replace Obamacare? Yep, I get a new liver for free every week because of my preexisting alcoholic condition. Hold China accountable? They are cowering in fear of our might. Scrap Iran plan? Yes sir! Eliminate Obama’s massive debt that he and he alone created from George W. Bushes’ massive surplus he gave Obama? Did it ages ago and we have the largest surplus in history. Rebuild all the alliances that Obama damages? Yep, Russia, North Korea and the Philippines are now stronger allies than ever before. Exposed how Hunter Biden and his dad almost destroyed Democracy? You know it as well as I that he did.

You need to stop listening to fake news and get the facts…

Don't forget about the (invisible) border wall around San Antonio Trump said is keeping the city safe.
 
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It’s hilarious watching you Trump supporters vigorously arguing in favour of not seeing evidence against your guy. This will all be remembered next time any of you try and take any kind of moral high ground against anyone.

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If he doesn't, why did the House not pursue it?
They would have gone to court and lost.
But you and they will say, we have to do it now. lol

That was Pelosi's decision - not mine. I do know this: such a case would be in the courts through the election. This President will exhaust every legal avenue, road, dirt path or hole he can...that's what he has done his entire life. He recognizes no limits to his power...he's even said so.

As for losing such a case, you clearly have not reviewed past court rulings.
 
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Then the Democratic House should have had the spine to pursue that in court; they didn't. Guess they figured they could force the Senate to do their work for them....they couldn't......tsk, tsk....

So you want an impeachment process that lasts about a year or two? Because Trump's violation of subpoenas would likely go all the way to SCOTUS. That will take time.

So instead of taking the House to task for not spending another year on this, why don't you take Trump to task for HIDING EVERYTHING?

Just curious.
 
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It’s hilarious watching you Trump supporters vigorously arguing in favour of not seeing evidence against your guy. This will all be remembered next time any of you try and take any kind of moral high ground against anyone.

No, once the Republican tribunals start and the Democrats are rounded up and tried for treason, I’m sure that they won’t need to see any evidence to get the convictions.
 
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It’s hilarious watching you Trump supporters vigorously arguing in favour of not seeing evidence against your guy. This will all be remembered next time any of you try and take any kind of moral high ground against anyone.

HEre's a fun test: let's imagine a future when PRESIDENT OCASIO-CORTEZ WITHHOLDS FUNDS TO ISRAEL. I bet the GOP would turn over every rock on earth to get evidence and would scream their lungs bloody if they were denied witnesses and evidence.
 
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No, once the Republican tribunals start and the Democrats are rounded up and tried for treason, I’m sure that they won’t need to see any evidence to get the convictions.

Lock them up! Lock them up!
 
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They are supposed to be debating the next resolution to get documents from the OMB and instead Jay Sekulow is blathering about the Whistleblower and the aid ultimately making it to Ukraine. In what universe are these people considered intelligent? B'cuz it looks to me like they can't actually follow directions. Now Schiff is up there blathering about the aid and rebutting Sekulow's blather.

Gah! Stick to the topic at hand, boys-n-girls!
 
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They are supposed to be debating the next resolution to get documents from the OMB and instead Jay Sekulow is blathering about the Whistleblower and the aid ultimately making it to Ukraine. In what universe are these people considered intelligent? B'cuz it looks to me like they can't actually follow directions. Now Schiff is up there blathering about the aid and rebutting Sekulow's blather.

Gah! Stick to the topic at hand, boys-n-girls!

It's a pathetic defense...of distraction and lying by omission. But I suppose it doesn't matter - the jury has already decided they don't want to see any more documents....
 
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That was Pelosi's decision - not mine. I do know this: such a case would be in the courts through the election. This President will exhaust every legal avenue, road, dirt path or hole he can...that's what he has done his entire life. He recognizes no limits to his power...he's even said so.

As for losing such a case, you clearly have not reviewed past court rulings.

Hey, I voted for Trump in '16 and will again in '20.

But there are many things about his character that upsets me.

For example, I was watching the news the other day and my grand kids came over, 7 and 9. All of a sudden I hear Trump on the tv say s.o.b. loud and clear.

My grand kids looked at me and felt like crawling under the couch.

It burned me up to no end. There is no call for a president to conduct himself in such a manner. I agree with many of your complaints of Trump.

But as far as following his legal rights, I can't blame him.
 
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Hey, I voted for Trump in '16 and will again in '20.

But there are many things about his character that upsets me.

For example, I was watching the news the other day and my grand kids came over, 7 and 9. All of a sudden I hear Trump on the tv say s.o.b. loud and clear.

My grand kids looked at me and felt like crawling under the couch.

It burned me up to no end. There is no call for a president to conduct himself in such a manner. I agree with many of your complaints of Trump.

But as far as following his legal rights, I can't blame him.
 
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It doesn't make any sense to make arguments without all the evidence - evidence that this President has blocked entirely. And btw, past Senates have admitted additional evidence at the start of the Impeachment trials.

No, the House did not request the documents properly and would not allow the President to have his counsel present. The rules are there for a reason. They knew the rules and didn't do what they needed to do to see the documents. They voted without them saying that they didn't need them because they had overwhelming evidence to show that Trump should be impeached. If they had overwhelming evidence, then the Senate must not need it either.

And there have been exactly TWO other presidential trials for impeachment. Not a single president has been convicted though. This Senate could have voted to address additional evidence. They chose to not address it at this time...hence, they tabled it. Tabling things is a normal part of how the House and Senate does business. Again, the evidence should have been gathered and presented in the House before they voted to impeach the president. Any additional witnesses should be because the Senate has questions and wants to call the witnesses...not because the House is telling them who they should call.

In the meantime, Sanders, Warren, and Biden can't be campaigning as we go into the presidental primaries in Feb as long as this trial continues.
 
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It’s funny that you mention the election. Let’s say that the house had spent months going through the courts trying to force Trump to release the subpoena’d documents and witnesses. Ok, it’s now October and the house is ready to start impeachment. Sound good? Wouldn’t sound at all like politics was being played?

We are a country that is based on innocence until proven guilty. Yes, if he was guilty of high crimes and treason, I would expect them to spend the proper amount of time needed to prove his guilty no matter how long it took to process. Congressmen re used to things going slow and following the rules. Instead they are calling him guilty and then wanting the Senate to find the evidence to prove his guilt. It doesn't work that way.

And asking Ukraine to investigate if the US did something illegal in the past, does not sound like high crime or treason. If the prior administration and it's representatives were clean of corruption, it wouldn't be an issue and would work in. Do we really believe that Hunter Biden got his job because he applied independent of his father's connections and was the "best man for the job"? And why do several of the children of Congressmen work for this company with extremely high salaries.
 
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