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I wouldn't have had much trouble. And I'm an American. Albeit one who bothered to pay attention when watching Monty Python in my youth.

Of course you wouldn't.;)

And yet another clear as mud example. Seriously, it would probably take all of one more sentence to make that come of as not so incoherent.
 
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...it is disappointing that her efforts to encourage the nation's school children to eat healthier is viewed as a bad thing in some quarters.

Keep it on a state level. I see no need to be making federal rules or legislation controlling what school kids eat. That should be agreed upon by parents with kids in schools and the school board of that district, in my opinion.
 
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Keep it on a state level. I see no need to be making federal rules or legislation controlling what school kids eat. That should be agreed upon by parents with kids in schools and the school board of that district, in my opinion.

What’s the difference? In either case, you are conceding that government has a role in encouraging better nutrition practices for children. And if eating an apple a day is good nutrition for a kid in Alabama, why wouldn’t it be equally beneficial for one in Oregon...?

The only difference, I would suggest, is that accepting it at a federal level would be to concede that Mrs Obama was right...and we can’t have that!
 
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By having their obscenely vast profits just become obscenely huge instead?

Where's the proof of your assumption that they make such huge profits and can afford to pay for everyone's medical expenses?
 
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Conservatives cheering on kids who refuse to eat their vegetables, strange bed fellows indeed.

Liberals cheering on bureaucrats who determine what people can and cannot eat. Ironic, eh?
 
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...it is disappointing that her efforts to encourage the nation's school children to eat healthier is viewed as a bad thing in some quarters.

Encouraging and giving no choice are two different things, no matter which side of the political spectrum you're on.
 
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What’s the difference? In either case, you are conceding that government has a role in encouraging better nutrition practices for children. And if eating an apple a day is good nutrition for a kid in Alabama, why wouldn’t it be equally beneficial for one in Oregon...?

Because as a parent in Florida, it is none of my concern what those two states feed their children in school. Never even been to those states. There is no need to restrict a local community on federal guidelines either. Needs can differ from community to community. Yet alone from state to state. Why do we need the govrenment to constantly dictate how we govern our own lives anyways?
 
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Oh I totally get that which is why we can't really "reform" the Insurance based medical care system. Risk pools either require a mandate or we have to accept cost controls. That's why we need Single Payer.

You mean "government payer"? How many trillions of dollars is the government in debt? Even Bernie and Elizabeth aren't being taken seriously with their plans for such a thing. At least they know the actual cost, and aren't taking it seriously.

Insurance companies and profit-motive in healthcare are the least humane means of taking care of our citizens.

It's been working well in every other sector. Does the government grow your food? Do they invent new technologies? Is governor the great innovator of our time? Has it ever been?
 
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Of course. Given them a choice other than fries and pizza.

That would be fine, but that wasn't Michelle Obama's way of doing it.
 
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Why do we need the govrenment to constantly dictate how we govern our own lives anyways?

And yet, in your last post, you advocated exactly that...!

“Keep it at the state level”, you say. So you seem quite comfortable with government ‘dictating’ your life, but only if it’s a state government...??

Be a little honest. You’re supporting Trump in yet another petty decision, based entirely upon an obsession with removing anything with ‘Obama’ attached to it...
 
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And yet, in your last post, you advocated exactly that...!

“Keep it at the state level”, you say. So you seem quite comfortable with government ‘dictating’ your life, but only if it’s a state government...??

That was a mistake on my part. I was referring to local and community level. However at the most, we should keep it at state level.

Be a little honest. You’re supporting Trump in yet another petty decision, based entirely upon an obsession with removing anything with ‘Obama’ attached to it...

I honestly would like Obama's presidency annulled completely. This is not the first time I admitted that. Worst President in my lifetime to current day. Absolutely anti-american, anti-constitution in every way.

But the truth of the matter at hand is I do not believe in big government. Let them tell their own kids what to eat. It is none of the federal government's business to regulate what food is being served to kids. That is a matter for local/county/state level if at all. If the kids are getting good quality food from kitchens that can pass county health inspections; I do not see the need for feds to be involved.
 
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That was a mistake on my part. I was referring to local and community level. However at the most, we should keep it at state level.

Local, state or federal....you’re still advocating some regulation by government in the provision of food to children...! Just as Mrs Obama does...

I honestly would like Obama's presidency annulled completely. This is not the first time I admitted that. Worst President in my lifetime to current day. Absolutely anti-american, anti-constitution in every way.

Well, you’re totally at odds with the strong majority of your own citizens...and the world for that matter...But, as my grandmother used to say “Let people be with their own foolishness”...

But the truth of the matter at hand is I do not believe in big government. Let them tell their own kids what to eat. It is none of the federal government's business to regulate what food is being served to kids. That is a matter for local/county/state level if at all. If the kids are getting good quality food from kitchens that can pass county health inspections; I do not see the need for feds to be involved.

Ah yes, the “Get the government out of my life” gambit...when it suits.

Build your own roads and freeways, do you?
Got a personal rail service?
How’s that hospital of yours going?
And surely you home-school your children?
Vaccinated by any chance?
Really tricky pulling your own teeth when they rot, huh?
Your one-man defence force up to speed?

Oh boy...
 
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Yes. It keep insurance rates down. If insurance is required to cover a condition that already exists, then it's no different than requiring an insurance company to give home owners insurance to someone after their house has already burned down; also a "pre-existing condition". Insurance companies then have to raise rates for everyone, causing it to be unaffordable for those with the lowest incomes, and a losing proposition for insurance companies, driving them out of business and decreasing competition between them.

Driving them out if business?

What exactly do you propose people with pre-existing conditions do?
 
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Yes. It keep insurance rates down.
Does it, though?

If insurance is required to cover a condition that already exists, then it's no different than requiring an insurance company to give home owners insurance to someone after their house has already burned down; also a "pre-existing condition". Insurance companies then have to raise rates for everyone, causing it to be unaffordable for those with the lowest incomes, and a losing proposition for insurance companies, driving them out of business and decreasing competition between them.
Insurance companies were not forced to participate in the ACA marketplace, but those that did were required to follow regulations. It was different in that companies were not forced to take a loss under the rules - just as they were required to issue refunds if their profits passed a certain margin of costs versus payouts, they were also guaranteed a profit with the government covering losses incurred by taking on too many expensive (old, sick) patients. Well, until Donald John decided to renege on the payments - the Supreme Court heard the arguments and will decide on it later this year.

ACA Insurers In The Supreme Court: Why Consumers Should Pay Attention
 
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Driving them out if business?

What exactly do you propose people with pre-existing conditions do?

Seek out charity organizations. Paying the bill themselves in an option. There's also Medicare and Medicaid.
 
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Seek out charity organizations.

Charity can't and won't be able to cover all those medical bills.


Paying the bill themselves in an option.

Due to the outrageously expensive price of medical care in this nation, that simply isn't an option for many many conditions.


There's also Medicare and Medicaid.

Lol so....insurance. The very same thing you just said shouldn't have to cover preexisting conditions.
 
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