Daniel's 70th week

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God's nation or kingdom was established on the day that Jesus was resurrected. See Acts 2. This was not in 1948 or the revised to the 1967 date (after premil timelines failed to produce their false prophecy).



Keep arguing with scripture.

Christ ushered in the kingdom of God when He came. Jesus said in Matthew 11:12, from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth (biazo) violence, and the (biastes) violent take it by force.”

Jesus said, in Luke 16:16, “The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man (biazo) presseth into it.”

We should immediately note: for men to be able to press into the kingdom and for it to suffer violence it must already exist. The Greek word biazo here means to force, to crowd oneself into, or to seize. The kingdom of God is shown here to be a present reality that the righteous enter upon salvation. This has been the case since John the Baptist. The spiritual kingdom Christ brought was very-much alive and active from the beginning of Christ’s earthly ministry.

Sadly, the overwhelming majority of Jews missed their promised Messiah when He came. He just didn’t fit their expectation of who and what the Messiah was to be. Also, they had an erroneous political racial perception of what the kingdom was. They had a carnal earthly view of Messiah and His kingdom. They believed that the first thing He would do was subjugate all national Israel’s enemies, starting with the Romans. When Christ appeared at His first advent, the Jews imagined He would reinstate the now defunct earthly throne of Israel and reign victorious over the physical nation, restoring their ancient borders. The only problem was: they had a defective hyper-literalist understanding of Old Testament prophesies and a misconception of how the kingdom would look.

Matthew 3:1-2 records, “In those days came John the Baptist, preaching in the wilderness of Judaea, And saying, Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand (or eengiken or ‘is made near’ or ‘approaches’).”

Matthew 4:12, 17 records, “when Jesus had heard that John was cast into prison, he departed into Galilee…From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand (or eengiken).”

Mark 1:14-15 records, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God, And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand (or eengiken).”

Jesus told the disciples as the kingdom advances, And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand (or eengiken)(Matthew 10:7).

The kingdom of God exists wherever the king – the Lord Jesus Christ – exercises His spiritual jurisdiction. His kingdom embodies all those who possess the indwelling Holy Spirit – those who are born-again of the Spirit of God. Christ’s kingdom is therefore found wherever there are citizens of that Kingdom.

In John 3:3 Jesus declared: Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.”

And in John 3:5 He says, “Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.”

The penitent sinner spiritually enters into a spiritual kingdom upon conversion. Entering in to that spiritual kingdom in this life brings an immediate realization in the ‘here and now’ and on this earth of true “righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost” (Romans 14:17) and is decisively personal to the recipient. That means if you have given Christ kingship of your life then you are in the kingdom of God and the kingdom of God is in you! The King in God’s kingdom is none other than the Lord Jesus Christ. And since we got saved we are His subjects. The laws that govern Christ’s spiritual kingdom are found in this precious Book.
 
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That was the consequences of their rejection of Christ. That was nowhere said to occur within the 70 weeks. The destruction of their temple/city and the dispersion of the Jews beyond Israel occurred as a consequence of their rejection of Christ and their stubborn continuation with the temple sacrifices.
Jesus was referring to the book of Daniel regarding the Abomination of desolation...this is the event in Daniel 9:27?

Daniel 9:27..."He will confirm a covenant with many for one seven. In the middle of the seven he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And at the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him...

As you can see from the verse..that both sacrifices and offering were ceased and the Abomination that causes desolation is set up in the middle of the seven week left of the seventy weeks prophecy....
 
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If they reject Christ, Jesus says they are of their "father the devil." How can a Christ-hating nation be the kingdom of God? What Bible are you reading? They are under the wrath of God! They are antichrist! They are blind! They are the synagogue of Satan! Only those who are born again (both Jew and Gentile) are God's elect and true Israel!

The problem I see with dispensationalists is that they artificially make a special protected class of sinner – Israeli sinners – to support their extra-biblical teaching. They somehow make them elect sinner. They present them as a specially blessed sinner. They are somehow chosen of God because of an accident of birth, and God because of their ethnic race, when this has never been the case, either in the Old Testament or the New Testament. Salvation has always been by grace, not race.

The reality is there are only two camps of human beings – saved and lost, those who belong to God and those who belong to the devil. There is no third group. Premillennialism invents a third group who are too righteous to be destroyed when Jesus comes and to wicked to be caught up and glorified. This group is totally unknown to Scripture. They create this to justify their ‘Segregation Theology’.

John the Baptist warned the Jews that anyone that refuses to receive Jesus “the wrath of God abideth on him” (John 3:36). Jesus Himself splits mankind into two distinct camps (not three) in the parable of the wheat and the tares in Matthew 13:38-39: “The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one; The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.”

If one was to take an un-indoctrinated theological journey through the whole of Scripture from start to finish one would surely come to the definite conclusion that mankind is ultimately only divided into two types of people – those that personally know God and are consequently destined to everlasting bliss, and those that that are enemies of God and are therefore destined to everlasting punishment.

The wheat and tares are a symbolic collective inclusive representation of all mankind; the wheat representing “the children of the kingdom” (Matthew 13:38) – those saved by God’s wonderful grace; the tares representing “the children of the wicked one” (Matthew 13:38) – those outside of grace and of God. The righteous in this story are notably planted of God; the tares on the other hand are planted of the “enemy” – the devil. In fact, Matthew 13:39 states, “The enemy that sowed them is the devil.” This again corroborates the view that we are viewing the only two sole peoples that Scripture recognises. Plainly, if one isn’t of the Lord then there are of the devil. There are no hybrids.

If they do not embrace Christ they do not belong to God. They cannot be God’s chosen people if they reject Christ.

Jesus said in Luke 9:48, “whosoever shall receive me receiveth him that sent me.”

Jesus said in John 15:23, “He that hateth me hateth my Father also.”

2 John 1:9: “Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God.”

There can be no dispute here, without negating the Word of God.

Those who not born again and only have one nature and are described by Jesus in John 8:44 as being of their “father the devil.” Why? Because He told them the truth (by way of the Gospel) and they refused to believe Him (John 8:45-46). Because of their rejection of Him and His truth, He told them “ye are not of God” (John 8:47).

There are not two God’s, two Saviors and two ways of salvation. There is one way, and that comes through Christ and His finished work at Calvary.

Paul reinforces this truth in 2 Corinthians 4:4, demonstrating that all those who reject our Lord and “the light of the glorious gospel of Christ” are “blinded” by “the god of this world” (Satan). They are deceived.

John deems anyone who denies “Jesus is the Christ (or Messiah)” as a liar” and an “antichrist.” This includes every single Jew and Gentile who rebels against God’s only provision for sin. There are no special exceptions or imaginary 3rd group of humans, as Dispies pretend. In 1 John 3:10 he shows that mankind is divided into two camps. One is called “the children of God” and the other is called “the children of the devil.”

Finally, Jesus admonished the church in Smyrna in Revelation 2:9, “I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.”

Those who reject Christ are indeed of their father the devil. You dismiss these crystal-clear censures from Jesus, arguing: "it's one specific synagogue he addressing, I think." Well, He actually condemns 2 churches here that had large Jewish communities living around them that were apostate. Judaism is apostate. It has rejected their Messiah and is therefore condemned and unregenerate.

The Lord similarly condemns the unbelieving natural Jew in Revelation 3:9 for imagining that he was real Jew. Whilst speaking to the church at Philadelphia, He said, “Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.”

In Revelation 2:9 and 3:9 Christ succinctly describes the Jews that rejects Him and what He achieved at the cross as those who “say they are Jews, and are not.” What he is saying is: they are not real Jews. The Philadelphia Church, which would have been overwhelmingly Gentile, was here promised that God would cause the unbelieving Jews to come and worship at their feet. The Lord again exposed the delusion that did beguile (and does beguile) the natural Christ-rejecting Jews “which say they are Jews” but “are not, but do lie.” The true Jew today is a believer in Yahweh that is spiritually circumcised in heart, not merely physically circumcised.
Hi we are in agreement of two types of people saved and unsaved. The detour you take is replacing the church with Israel in the covenant with Abraham that God affirms it over and over. The Jews in Ezekiel 36 are gathered back to the mountains of Israel. God says He is doing this for His names sake. He notes that this group is gathered out of all the nations where they were scattered and that they profaned the name of the LORD in all the nations where they were scattered. He says in the days that they are brought back that He will remove the reproach of the nations and will give them a new heart.

‘Thus says the Lord GOD: “Because they say to you, ‘You devour men and bereave your nation of children,’ 14 therefore you shall devour men no more, nor bereave your nation anymore,” says the Lord GOD. 15 “Nor will I let you hear the taunts of the nations anymore, nor bear the reproach of the peoples anymore, nor shall you cause your nation to stumble anymore,” says the Lord GOD.’ ”
0 When they came to the nations, wherever they went, they profaned My holy name—when they said of them, ‘These are the people of the LORD, and yet they have gone out of His land.’ 21 But I had concern for My holy name, which the house of Israel had profaned among the nations wherever they went.
22 “Therefore say to the house of Israel, ‘Thus says the Lord GOD: “I do not do this for your sake, O house of Israel, but for My holy name’s sake, which you have profaned among the nations wherever you went. 23 And I will sanctify My great name, which has been profaned among the nations, which you have profaned in their midst; and the nations shall know that I am the LORD,” says the Lord GOD, “when I am hallowed in you before their eyes. 24 For I will take you from among the nations, gather you out of all countries, and bring you into your own land. 25 Then I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you shall be clean; I will cleanse you from all your filthiness and from all your idols. 26 I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit within you; I will take the heart of stone out of your flesh and give you a heart of flesh. 27 I will put My Spirit within you and cause you to walk in My statutes, and you will keep My judgments and do them. 28 Then you shall dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers; you shall be My people, and I will be your God. 29 I will deliver you from all your uncleannesses. I will call for the grain and multiply it, and bring no famine upon you. 30 And I will multiply the fruit of your trees and the increase of your fields, so that you need never again bear the reproach of famine among the nations. 31 Then you will remember your evil ways and your deeds that were not good; and you will loathe yourselves in your own sight, for your iniquities and your abominations. 32 Not for your sake do I do this,” says the Lord GOD, “let it be known to you. Be ashamed and confounded for your own ways, O house of Israel!”
33 ‘Thus says the Lord GOD: “On the day that I cleanse you from all your iniquities, I will also enable you to dwell in the cities, and the ruins shall be rebuilt. 34 The desolate land shall be tilled instead of lying desolate in the sight of all who pass by. 35 So they will say, ‘This land that was desolate has become like the garden of Eden; and the wasted, desolate, and ruined cities are now fortified and inhabited.’ 36 Then the nations which are left all around you shall know that I, the LORD, have rebuilt the ruined places and planted what was desolate. I, the LORD, have spoken it, and I will do it.
37 ‘Thus says the Lord GOD: “I will also let the house of Israel inquire of Me to do this for them: I will increase their men like a flock. 38 Like a flock offered as holy sacrifices, like the flock at Jerusalem on its feast days, so shall the ruined cities be filled with flocks of men. Then they shall know that I am the LORD.” ’ ”

They are born again this group which is those who go through the tribulation and make it will never hear the taunts of the nations again. Just as Luke one predicts the LORD delivers them and where is was said you are not my people you shall be called sons of the living God.
 
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God's nation or kingdom was established on the day that Jesus was resurrected. See Acts 2. This was not in 1948 or the revised to the 1967 date (after premil timelines failed to produce their false prophecy).
Kingdom of God is not a nation.

Luke 24:46 And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:

47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.

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Differently, Isaiah 66:7-9 is referring to a single nation. Israel, May 14, 1948.

Keep arguing with scripture.
I gave the scriptures. It is you who is arguing with Ezekiel 38-39. And Ezekiel 39:21-29.
 
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If they reject Christ, Jesus says they are of their "father the devil." How can a Christ-hating nation be the kingdom of God? What Bible are you reading? They are under the wrath of God! They are antichrist! They are blind! They are the synagogue of Satan! Only those who are born again (both Jew and Gentile) are God's elect and true Israel!
This the eschatology forum. Not a forum for replacement theology doctrine.

The Jews, Israel, will become Christians, embracing the gospel during the great tribulation. And it is in Revelation 12:10. And Ezekiel 39:21-29. Both end times, eschatology passages.
 
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We are members of God's kingdom. An everlasting enduring nation. And if you read history, you'll understand that Israel was not established in a single day.

I gave the scriptures. It is you who is arguing with Ezekiel 38-39. And Ezekiel 39:21-29.

No, you read them with your own pretext. The apostate, modern nation of Israel has no place in biblical prophecy.
 
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This the eschatology forum. Not a forum for replacement theology doctrine.

"Replacement theology" is an epithet meant to shut people up. There was no replacement. God's kingdom was always called Israel and it was always meant to be a spiritual kingdom. The nation rejected God way back in Samuel by asking for an earthly king. He suffered with those vessels fitted for destruction until Jesus came to establish the spiritual kingdom. God brought in the Gentiles and explained that the only real Jews were those who obeyed the gospel. The true Israel contains both Jews and Gentiles and was not 'replaced.'

The Jews, Israel, will become Christians, embracing the gospel during the great tribulation. And it is in Revelation 12:10. And Ezekiel 39:21-29. Both end times, eschatology passages.

True Israel is the church. Not a replacement but a reconciliation of the two members into one body. The 'end times' was the end of the old covenant and has passed. And this is why Jesus in Revelation calls those who keep to the old law a synagogue of Satan, and says that they are not real Jews. The true Jews are those who are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands.
 
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We are members of God's kingdom. An everlasting enduring nation. And if you read history, you'll understand that Israel was not established in a single day.
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No, you read them with your own pretext. The apostate, modern nation of Israel has no place in biblical prophecy.
Using the text of Ezekiel 39:21-29, and Ezekiel 38-39, prove your point.
 
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"Replacement theology" is an epithet meant to shut people up.
If Israel was tribal, of the 12 tribes before the church came into existence, then the doctrine that the church made up of people from all tribes, kindreds, tongues, nations, and people is now Israel - is replacement.

Daniel 7:14 And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.

It doesn't say that kingdom is the nation of Israel.
 
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Using the text of Ezekiel 39:21-29, and Ezekiel 38-39, prove your point.

Well, since you already accept the false history of Israel as having been "born" in a day and reject already the prophecies about Jesus who would establish God's kingdom, I see no point. Modern Israel's creation began in the 1880s. It's first location was to be Texas rather than Palestine. But WWI established Israel and then in 1946 Jewish terrorists finally were able to drive out the British. Didn't happen in a day.

It's establishment has absolutely ZERO to do with biblical prophecy. Here's a nation that can't go back to the law and doesn't want to. Even if they built a temple, animal sacrifices wouldn't remove sin so the endeavor would be pointless and an insult to God.

"28 A man is not a Jew because he is one outwardly, nor is circumcision only outward and physical. 29 No, a man is a Jew because he is one inwardly, and circumcision is a matter of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the written code."

They aren't even real Jews according to God.
 
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If Israel was tribal, of the 12 tribes before the church came into existence, then the doctrine that the church made up of people from all tribes, kindreds, tongues, nations, and people is now Israel - is replacement.

God reconciled the two, Jews and Gentiles, into one body. No replacement, fulfillment. Like I said, this is just an epithet invented by people who reject the gospel and want people to believe that God's going to create a third covenant to make ethnic Jews "special" again.

16 and that He might reconcile them both to God in one body through the cross, thereby putting to death the enmity. 17 And He came and preached peace to you who were afar off and to those who were near. 18 For through Him we both have access by one Spirit to the Father.

It doesn't say that kingdom is the nation of Israel.

Of course it doesn't. The modern nation of Israel has nothing to do with God.
 
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It doesn't say that kingdom is the nation of Israel.

And to add to that---

Acts 1:6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?

It would seem pretty silly if this is meaning the following instead---When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again Israel to Israel?
 
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And to add to that---

Acts 1:6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?

So, in spite of their being known as the nation of Israel, the kingdom was thought by the apostles to have departed from them. Of course, at that time, they didn't understand the gospel. So they were made to understand that entrance into the kingdom was through obedience to the Gospel.
 
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Kingdom of God is not a nation.

Jesus disagrees.

Matthew 21
43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.

Peter confirms.

1 Peter 2
9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light;
 
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To fulfill Isaiah 66:7-9, a nation born in a single day

Acts 2
41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.

The Holy Nation of the Church. (1 Peter 2:9)

Born in a single day.
 
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This the eschatology forum. Not a forum for replacement theology doctrine.

The Jews, Israel, will become Christians, embracing the gospel during the great tribulation. And it is in Revelation 12:10. And Ezekiel 39:21-29. Both end times, eschatology passages.

What are you talking about? What is this "replacement theology doctrine"?
 
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And to add to that---

Acts 1:6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?

It would seem pretty silly if this is meaning the following instead---When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again Israel to Israel?

The two verses that go before Acts 1:6 (relating to the disciples’ question) support the idea of a spiritual kingdom. The two verses that follow Acts 1:6 (relating to the disciples’ question) show the Lord giving a spiritual response to their question.

Before the question came Christ was exhorting the disciples on the need for patience as they awaited the empowerment of the Holy Ghost to take the Gospel out to “the whosoever.” Everything about the context is spiritual. The Lord was stating “that they should not depart from Jerusalem, but wait for the promise of the Father, which, saith he, ye have heard of me. For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence (Acts 1:4-5).

Surely an unbiased look at these introductory comments would give us insight into what the Lord was teaching and what actually provoked the question that followed it. Undoubtedly the Lord was giving spiritual instruction about a spiritual kingdom that would shortly come with great power and fire? This is not territorial language.

What is “the Promise of the Father” here? Is it a material physical kingdom or is it a spiritual heavenly kingdom? Is it a millennial kingdom similar to this evil age, filled with death and rebellion, or was He speaking of the power of the Holy Ghost that would fall upon the disciples to empower them to bring the good news of Christ to all nations – starting in Jerusalem?

Christ was speaking of Pentecost. He said the disciples would not die until they had “seen the kingdom come with power” – referring here the Church's baptism of fire to win a lost world. It didn't mean they would die when that happened.

The disciples then interjected with a question: Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?”

Premillennialists attribute much extravagant, extensive and grandiose detail to this simple question. They build a whole school of thought pertaining to a supposed period after the second coming out of this basic inquiry. They call it a millennial age and make it a Jewish-orientated kingdom. Nevertheless, and significantly, New Testament Scripture knows nothing of such an old-covenant-type Jewish age. That has been reduced to the history books.

Jesus reply to the disciples is telling. He responded: “It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power. But ye shall receive power (or dunamis), after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth (Acts 1:7-8)

If the disciples did have some glorious future natural earthly hope of a Jewish kingdom containing all the old covenant structures, rights and customs then Jesus wasn’t buying into it. In fact, He totally rebuked such a concept by His spiritual response. If their hope was spiritual then He ably explained the development of that spiritual kingdom – from the small nation of Israel to the Gentile nations. He was outlining the great commission and showing them their evangelistic mission field.

Regardless of their thinking, one thing is certain, Christ definitely (and unambiguously) outlines a spiritual response. Christ’s measured response to the disciples’ query supports the notion of a spiritual kingdom in this age; proving it to be in perfect accord with, and a continuation of, His teaching in relation to the kingdom of God (the subject He was undoubtedly advancing prior to the disciples’ enquiry). The nature of Christ’s reply shows us the spiritual nature of the kingdom of God in our current age.
 
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If Israel was tribal, of the 12 tribes before the church came into existence, then the doctrine that the church made up of people from all tribes, kindreds, tongues, nations, and people is now Israel - is replacement.

Daniel 7:14 And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.

It doesn't say that kingdom is the nation of Israel.

That is because the Israeli title is physical and carnal in your eyes. The NT tells a different story.
 
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The two verses that go before Acts 1:6 (relating to the disciples’ question) support the idea of a spiritual kingdom. The two verses that follow Acts 1:6 (relating to the disciples’ question) show the Lord giving a spiritual response to their question.

Let's look at the texts involved in order to try and determine whether you might be right or not.

Acts 1:4 And, being assembled together with them, commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem, but wait for the promise of the Father, which, saith he, ye have heard of me.
5 For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence.
6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?
7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.
8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.



The first thing to note is this---wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel? The keywords being 'restore again'. In order to restore again implies something someone had in the past, does not still have it presently, but is expected to have it again in the future. If we make the kingdom meaning a spiritual kingdom, the following is what we end up with per that verse.

When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the spiritual kingdom to Israel?

First of all, Israel can't be meaning the NT church here, unless one wants to claim the NT church needs the kingdom again restored to it, which implies the NT church was in possession of the kingdom in the past, but not still in possession of it when the disciples were asking about this here, therefore still needing it restored to them again in the future. And if we make this kingdom a spiritual kingdom that seems to make these things even more bizarre, assuming Israel being meant here is the NT church.

Is there anything in the 4 gospels indicating Israel, not meaning the NT church though, that show Israel was in possession of the kingdom in the past, wouldn't be in possession of it when Acts 1:6 was being fulfilled, thus needing the kingdom restored to it again in the future? I think there is maybe something like that in the 4 gospels. How about in the following.


Matthew 21:43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.

How can this not be meaning the very same kingdom in Acts 1:6? How can this not be Israel the kingdom of God is being taken away from in Matthew 21:43? How can that not mean Israel was once in possession of the kingdom, lost possession, therefore would not be in possession of during Acts 1:6, thus needing it restored again to them in the future?
 
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Matthew 21
43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.

Peter confirms.

1 Peter 2
9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light;
Your claim is that the church, starting with that first generation, has become a nation. Not that the kingdom of God is a nation.

And you are combining two verses, which are unconnected. Matthew 21:43 is speaking about a future generation of Israel, the end times generation which Israel will embrace the gospel and Jesus, as indicated in Ezekiel 39:21-29 - which in those verses no way can be referring to the church.
 
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