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Hello,

I found this site after doing some research on Hypnagogic Hallucinations and wanted to find a more spiritual/Biblical perspective on them.

I am hoping the fine people of these forums can help guide me in the right direction with my faith in G-D and get right with Him and to not just survive but thrive in this life until the next.

As a little background on my faith, I grew up in a Christian household that went to a large Pentecostal/Charismatic Church which I loved and have cherished memories of the friends and families we made there.

Moving around a lot made early life difficult and when I first moved out, I was convinced that the Bible was false and became an atheist, which then, in turn, evolved into agnosticism.

Back in 2015, I had my first manic episode in which was the very moment that I rededicated my life to Christ. Since then I have been trying to make sense of a lot of things pertaining not just to Biblical scripture, but spirituality as a whole.

So ever since then, I would get hypnagogic hallucinations every once in a while as I fall asleep. Sometimes its just sounds or visual hallucinations that can be confusing or frightening, like seeing a large insect or something. Other times it feels like the bed is moving on its own and I start zooming out into an intensely vivid dream. Other times the episode is not negative but positive in which a higher being of Light comes to me to help guide me and show me Love and compassion.

Now I will end this post saying I have been diagnosed with Schizoaffective Bipolar Type comorbid with borderline Personality Disorder. One thing I do have which I know because all the symptoms line up is Alice in Wonderland syndrome which is not hallucinations but changes in my perception of reality.

Really, my coming here is to try to find another perspective than my family or doctors or local church pastor.

Thanks and G-d bless,
Nater
 
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Welcome to CF. Do you consider yourself a Christian? I asks because it says you are a freethinker ( non-Christian but the end of your posts implies you are,
 
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Hello,

I found this site after doing some research on Hypnagogic Hallucinations and wanted to find a more spiritual/Biblical perspective on them.

I am hoping the fine people of these forums can help guide me in the right direction with my faith in G-D and get right with Him and to not just survive but thrive in this life until the next.

As a little background on my faith, I grew up in a Christian household that went to a large Pentecostal/Charismatic Church which I loved and have cherished memories of the friends and families we made there.

Moving around a lot made early life difficult and when I first moved out, I was convinced that the Bible was false and became an atheist, which then, in turn, evolved into agnosticism.

Back in 2015, I had my first manic episode in which was the very moment that I rededicated my life to Christ. Since then I have been trying to make sense of a lot of things pertaining not just to Biblical scripture, but spirituality as a whole.

So ever since then, I would get hypnagogic hallucinations every once in a while as I fall asleep. Sometimes its just sounds or visual hallucinations that can be confusing or frightening, like seeing a large insect or something. Other times it feels like the bed is moving on its own and I start zooming out into an intensely vivid dream. Other times the episode is not negative but positive in which a higher being of Light comes to me to help guide me and show me Love and compassion.

Now I will end this post saying I have been diagnosed with Schizoaffective Bipolar Type comorbid with borderline Personality Disorder. One thing I do have which I know because all the symptoms line up is Alice in Wonderland syndrome which is not hallucinations but changes in my perception of reality.

Really, my coming here is to try to find another perspective than my family or doctors or local church pastor.

Thanks and G-d bless,
Nater
There could be natural causes for your problem but it sounds more spiritual. Satan is real and it is possible for Christians to be oppressed by evil spirits. Satan can appear as an angel of Light. Go through your home and cast out evil spirits from every room. If you lack confidence yourself, ask the Lord to lead you to a strong Christian who knows their authority in Christ.

I've had experiences somewhat like yours. I had an occult spirit that gave me a lot of grief until it was cast out. It was hereditary, not something I chose to get into.
 
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Welcome to CF. Do you consider yourself a Christian? I asks because it says you are a freethinker ( non-Christian but the end of your posts implies you are,

I guess I would consider my self a Christian, but I am starting to see certain evidence that is hard to translate into words for others to understand certain connections between Judeo-Christianity and other Eastern Faiths. Of course, at the end of the day, Christ is my center. There just was not one option that best described my faith.
 
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There could be natural causes for your problem but it sounds more spiritual. Satan is real and it is possible for Christians to be oppressed by evil spirits. Satan can appear as an angel of Light. Go through your home and cast out evil spirits from every room. If you lack confidence yourself, ask the Lord to lead you to a strong Christian who knows their authority in Christ.

I've had experiences somewhat like yours. I had an occult spirit that gave me a lot of grief until it was cast out. It was hereditary, not something I chose to get into.

I will start going to The L-rd in prayer asking Him to help me with this task. I have also heard about using sage to help clear the house of evil/dark/negative spirits/energies but burning sage would be a no go here as the rest of the family would not enjoy the smell as much as I would. One thing I could do which I have been wanting to do but have not gotten around to it would be to use Sage Essential Oil in a diffuser which actually does the same basic task. All I need is the sage oil.

(I am quite fond of mixing in a bit of frankincense into my diffuser along with the rest of the scents that help me relax and destress)
 
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Welcome, work on renewing your mind. II Peter 1

Ephesians 4:23 Easy-to-Read Version (ERV)
23 You must be made new in your hearts and in your thinking.
24 Be that new person who was made to be like God, truly good and pleasing to him.

2 Corinthians 5:17
When anyone is in Christ, it is a whole new world. The old things are gone; suddenly, everything is new!

Romans 12:2 King James Version (KJV)
2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

Romans 8 King James Version (KJV)
8 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

2 Peter 1 Easy-to-Read Version (ERV)

God Has Given Us Everything We Need
3 Jesus has the power of God. And his power has given us everything we need to live a life devoted to God. We have these things because we know him. Jesus chose us by his glory and goodness, 4 through which he also gave us the very great and rich gifts that he promised us. With these gifts you can share in being like God. And so you will escape the ruin that comes to people in the world because of the evil things they want.

5 Because you have these blessings, do all you can to add to your life these things: to your faith add goodness; to your goodness add knowledge; 6 to your knowledge add self-control; to your self-control add patience; to your patience add devotion to God; 7 to your devotion add kindness toward your brothers and sisters in Christ, and to this kindness add love. 8 If all these things are in you and growing, you will never fail to be useful to God. You will produce the kind of fruit that should come from your knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. 9 But those who don’t grow in these blessings are blind. They cannot see clearly what they have. They have forgotten that they were cleansed from their past sins.

10 My brothers and sisters, God called you and chose you to be his. Do your best to live in a way that shows you really are God’s called and chosen people. If you do all this, you will never fall. 11 And you will be given a very great welcome into the kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, a kingdom that never ends.

12 You already know these things. You are very strong in the truth you have. But I am always going to help you remember them. 13 While I am still living here on earth, I think it is right for me to remind you of them. 14 I know that I must soon leave this body. Our Lord Jesus Christ has shown me that. 15 I will try my best to make sure you remember these things even after I am gone.
 
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I will start going to The L-rd in prayer asking Him to help me with this task. I have also heard about using sage to help clear the house of evil/dark/negative spirits/energies but burning sage would be a no go here as the rest of the family would not enjoy the smell as much as I would. One thing I could do which I have been wanting to do but have not gotten around to it would be to use Sage Essential Oil in a diffuser which actually does the same basic task. All I need is the sage oil.

(I am quite fond of mixing in a bit of frankincense into my diffuser along with the rest of the scents that help me relax and destress)
I can assure you that evil spirits are not bothered by scents. I've been to Buddhist temples. Incense was so thick in the air that it was hard to breathe. I was told it was to keep the snakes happy. Those temples have evil spirits as I found to my cost. The snakes were not aggressive but the evil spirits didn't mind a bit.
 
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If you think it is a spiritual problem.
Recommit yourself to the Lordship of Christ.
Destroy any objects that may somehow have demons attached to them.

1 Corinthians 10:19-21 Easy-to-Read Version (ERV)
19 So, am I saying that sacrifices to idols are the same as those Jewish sacrifices? No, because an idol is nothing, and the things offered to idols are worth nothing. 20 But I am saying that when food is sacrificed to idols, it is an offering to demons, not to God. And I don’t want you to share anything with demons. 21 You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and then go drink a cup that honors demons. You cannot share a meal at the Lord’s table and then go share a meal that honors demons.
 
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I guess I would consider my self a Christian, but I am starting to see certain evidence that is hard to translate into words for others to understand certain connections between Judeo-Christianity and other Eastern Faiths. Of course, at the end of the day, Christ is my center. There just was not one option that best described my faith.
Not that I would have an issue if you weren't, but certain forums are Christian only, so it would be important for the staff to know if you are "allowed" to post in those forums.
 
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Hello Nater,
welcome to CF.

I hope you'll enjoy your stay here.

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Hello,

I found this site after doing some research on Hypnagogic Hallucinations and wanted to find a more spiritual/Biblical perspective on them.

I am hoping the fine people of these forums can help guide me in the right direction with my faith in G-D and get right with Him and to not just survive but thrive in this life until the next.

As a little background on my faith, I grew up in a Christian household that went to a large Pentecostal/Charismatic Church which I loved and have cherished memories of the friends and families we made there.

Moving around a lot made early life difficult and when I first moved out, I was convinced that the Bible was false and became an atheist, which then, in turn, evolved into agnosticism.

Back in 2015, I had my first manic episode in which was the very moment that I rededicated my life to Christ. Since then I have been trying to make sense of a lot of things pertaining not just to Biblical scripture, but spirituality as a whole.

So ever since then, I would get hypnagogic hallucinations every once in a while as I fall asleep. Sometimes its just sounds or visual hallucinations that can be confusing or frightening, like seeing a large insect or something. Other times it feels like the bed is moving on its own and I start zooming out into an intensely vivid dream. Other times the episode is not negative but positive in which a higher being of Light comes to me to help guide me and show me Love and compassion.

Now I will end this post saying I have been diagnosed with Schizoaffective Bipolar Type comorbid with borderline Personality Disorder. One thing I do have which I know because all the symptoms line up is Alice in Wonderland syndrome which is not hallucinations but changes in my perception of reality.

Really, my coming here is to try to find another perspective than my family or doctors or local church pastor.

Thanks and G-d bless,
Nater
So interesting that you post this, and especially right now. This is the exact reason why I joined also. I’ve had hypnopompic hallucinations since I was a toddler. My hallucinations ranged from scary dark shadows, people, dogs, bugs, shapes, writing on the wall, You name it. It was terrifying but I find that when I am stronger in my faith they are less scary. I also find that saying the lords name makes them go away. It’s very interesting, I was going to make my own post about it. I feel it does have something to do with the spiritual world, however I also know it is something that stems from mental illness, I too have BP. I find the hallucinations are more common when I have anxiety or lack sleep.
 
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Ok, so I kind of found a solution to this problem, but unless I'm blind to the notification bell on desktop it only really works with mobile.



1.) Go to the sub in question

2.) Join it

3.) Tap the notification bell next to the joined button and set it to Off

4.) Tap Joined, and then tap leave
 
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So interesting that you post this, and especially right now. This is the exact reason why I joined also. I’ve had hypnopompic hallucinations since I was a toddler. My hallucinations ranged from scary dark shadows, people, dogs, bugs, shapes, writing on the wall, You name it. It was terrifying but I find that when I am stronger in my faith they are less scary. I also find that saying the lords name makes them go away. It’s very interesting, I was going to make my own post about it. I feel it does have something to do with the spiritual world, however I also know it is something that stems from mental illness, I too have BP. I find the hallucinations are more common when I have anxiety or lack sleep.

Some of these "false awakenings" when I say: "In the name of Yeshua Ha'Maschia stand behind me devil, you are the snake under my feet..." It seemed to help. It was almost like lucid dreaming practices where what I do on a regular basis translates into those mental states easier. Lately, I think my faith has been faltering as they seem to just mock me.

Now, if I sleep with my sleep mask and not try to move or look around, I instead get this odd retro game that feels like a first-person shmup game where this flying drill boss is shooting things at me, and I can fire back in some way. That one I don't mind, but the ones with the really odd looking flying green glowing eyes freak me out. But if I get through the episode, I will then go straight into a lucid dream ala the Wake Induced Lucid Dream technique. And then if I have been eating right, sleeping, and meditating regularly my dreams become meta and it feels like I am in some sort of Ready Player One but not Oculus but Nerve Gear full dive VR metaverse. And when I go into those dreams/visions, etc, I get this odd and peculiar but nostalgic taste in my mouth.
 
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