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Aaaah, yes, you mean the way Jesus treated the Pharasees!
And the way He said shake the dust off your feet and leave, if they won't listen/believe.
Yes, I get it ... thanks.
Jesus is GOD and He knew people's thoughts, and life. I believe the Bible teaches that we are not God to judge on the same level that He did. I am not saying that we cannot judge. Surely we can because Jesus said so (John 7:24); But as an example: Let's say one of us speaks sarcastically towards their opponent, if they were to do so, this is not the way. Only God can accurately do such a thing, my friend. For if one speaks a hurtful word to their opponent in an incorrect way, it can either push them further away, or make them feel angry, or stir them up to want to be even more sarcastic in return (Instead of being open to the warning and to look at the Scriptures).
I believe the shaking off the dust off your feet is merely involving the declaration of spreading the gospel message in evangelism efforts by going house to house. If they reject the gospel, then one is to declare to them that we are moving on from them (in a manner of speaking). This was to be a testimony against them that they did not hear the preacher. Their blood was not on the preacher's hands. In other cases: Paul tried to debate or reason with the Jews, too (Instead of just just giving them a one time message).
My major point is this:
Paul says, Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man (Colossians 4:6).
Peter says, be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness [gentleness] and fear (1 Peter 3:15).
Solomon says, The words of a wise man's mouth are gracious (Ecclesiastes 10:12).
Jesus says, "Salt is good: but if the salt have lost his saltness, wherewith will ye season it? Have salt in yourselves, and have peace one with another." (Mark 9:50).
Solomon says, "A soft answer turns away wrath, But a harsh word stirs up anger." (Proverbs 15:1).
You said:FYI, some "believers" choose to purposefully be disobedient.
And some are goats, and some are tares (weeds), and some are ...
I am not ignorant of Satan's devices.
But we don't know who will confess of their sins in the end and make it into God's kingdom. Some can realize the error of their ways shortly before they die. We do not know who is ultimately not going to make it. As long as men are alive, there is hope for them to repent and to change their ways. Thus we should pray for all men who are alive and speak to the truth to them in love, and do good unto them.
Jesus desires us to do even to love, and to good unto our enemies: "But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; " (Matthew 5:44).
The good thing that we can agree with is that a "Secure in One's Grievous Sin View of Salvation" is not taught in Scripture. On this we agree and we can fight as soldiers of Christ side by side. On the other point is where I believe we disagree. It is my hope that you see where I am coming from one day, brother. Truth is not always an overnight process for us all (as I am sure you would agree).
Love, peace, and blessings be unto you today in the name of Jesus Christ.
Sincerely,
~J.
Side Note:
"Secure in One's Grievous Sin View of Salvation" is popular nowadays.
Groups that push it:
#1. Majority in the Eternal Security camp.
#2. The Free Will Baptists or Those who Think That the Only Sin That Can Cause One to Fall Away is Rejecting Jesus or to Stop Believing in Him (Note: This why they will say that they reject Eternal Security, and yet they justify that they can sin and still be saved).
#3. Some Conditional Salvationists who is for Works as a part of Salvation (like David Servant who does not believe we die spiritually if we do not always confess of our serious sins).
#2. The Free Will Baptists or Those who Think That the Only Sin That Can Cause One to Fall Away is Rejecting Jesus or to Stop Believing in Him (Note: This why they will say that they reject Eternal Security, and yet they justify that they can sin and still be saved).
#3. Some Conditional Salvationists who is for Works as a part of Salvation (like David Servant who does not believe we die spiritually if we do not always confess of our serious sins).
There are a lot of Conditional Salvationists who do not believe that works play a part in the salvation process (i.e. Sanctification). I think many of them redefine words like "works" and believe that you have to live holy and be fruitful but they see this as God working through them (Which is true to some extent). So I would not exactly say all of these kinds of believers are justifying sin or anything (Although they appear to deny that living holy or works in the Sanctification Process plays a part in our salvation). But again, just because a believer appears to reject Eternal Security does not mean they are not of the belief that they can sin and still be saved on some level.
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