LDS Does God give dead faith to people?

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All Mormon marriages end at death. Temple marriage is not ordained by God. It is a Mormon delusion.
(Old Testament | Genesis 2:18)

18 ¶ And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.
(Old Testament | Genesis 2:24)

24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
(New Testament | Matthew 19:6)

6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.
(Doctrine and Covenants | Section 132:19)

19 And again, verily I say unto you, if a man marry a wife by my word, which is my law, and by the new and everlasting covenant, and it is sealed unto them by the Holy Spirit of promise, by him who is anointed, unto whom I have appointed this power and the keys of this priesthood; and it shall be said unto them—Ye shall come forth in the first resurrection; and if it be after the first resurrection, in the next resurrection; and shall inherit thrones, kingdoms, principalities, and powers, dominions, all heights and depths—then shall it be written in the Lamb's Book of Life, that he shall commit no murder whereby to shed innocent blood, and if ye abide in my covenant, and commit no murder whereby to shed innocent blood, it shall be done unto them in all things whatsoever my servant hath put upon them, in time, and through all eternity; and shall be of full force when they are out of the world; and they shall pass by the angels, and the gods, which are set there, to their exaltation and glory in all things, as hath been sealed upon their heads, which glory shall be a fulness and a continuation of the seeds forever and ever.
 
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Mormons haven't answered the OP. Faith comes from the Holy Spirit.

Galatians 5
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,
23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.

None of this fruit is dead.
 
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Mormons haven't answered the OP. Faith comes from the Holy Spirit.

Galatians 5
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,
23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.

None of this fruit is dead.
It is up to us to believe:

(New Testament | Hebrews 11:1)

1 NOW faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
(New Testament | Hebrews 11:6)

6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.

From Galatians 5 we learn:

(New Testament | Galatians 5:13 - 21)

13 For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another.
14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
15 But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.
16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.
17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.
18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.


Those who listen to the spirit and obey will indeed bring forth good fruit.

(New Testament | Galatians 5:24 - 26)

24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
26 Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another.

Those who LOVE God will receive the teachings of the spirit:

(New Testament | 1 Corinthians 2:5 - 14)

5 That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.
6 Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect: yet not the wisdom of this world, nor of the princes of this world, that come to nought:
7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:
8 Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.
9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.
10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.
11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.
12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.
13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
 
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(Old Testament | Genesis 2:18)

18 ¶ And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.
(Old Testament | Genesis 2:24)

24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
(New Testament | Matthew 19:6)

6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.
(Doctrine and Covenants | Section 132:19)

19 And again, verily I say unto you, if a man marry a wife by my word, which is my law, and by the new and everlasting covenant, and it is sealed unto them by the Holy Spirit of promise, by him who is anointed, unto whom I have appointed this power and the keys of this priesthood; and it shall be said unto them—Ye shall come forth in the first resurrection; and if it be after the first resurrection, in the next resurrection; and shall inherit thrones, kingdoms, principalities, and powers, dominions, all heights and depths—then shall it be written in the Lamb's Book of Life, that he shall commit no murder whereby to shed innocent blood, and if ye abide in my covenant, and commit no murder whereby to shed innocent blood, it shall be done unto them in all things whatsoever my servant hath put upon them, in time, and through all eternity; and shall be of full force when they are out of the world; and they shall pass by the angels, and the gods, which are set there, to their exaltation and glory in all things, as hath been sealed upon their heads, which glory shall be a fulness and a continuation of the seeds forever and ever.

It seem that you are always submitting this D&C nonsense in to support you claim. Of course it will support it--it is part of the deception.

Now where in the Bible does it say one of the Ordinances of God is to be Temple married?
 
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It seem that you are always submitting this D&C nonsense in to support you claim. Of course it will support it--it is part of the deception.

Now where in the Bible does it say one of the Ordinances of God is to be Temple married?
Not everything is in the Bible.
 
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What kind of gifts does He give His adopted children?

Matthew 7
7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you: 8 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened. 9 Or what man is there of you, whom if his son ask bread, will he give him a stone? 10 Or if he ask a fish, will he give him a serpent? 11 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him?

Matthew 21
22 And all things, whatsoever ye shall ask in prayer, believing, ye shall receive.

James 1
13 Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man: 14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. 15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death. 16 Do not err, my beloved brethren. 17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning. 18 Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures.


Do we create our own faith or does it come from God?

John 15
1 I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman. 2 Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit. 3 Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you. 4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me. 5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing. 6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned. 7 If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you.

Who causes the branch to bear fruit?

1 Corinthians 3
6 I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase.

Philippians 2
13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.


Will Jesus stay with His sheep?

Deuteronomy 31
8 And the LORD, he it is that doth go before thee; he will be with thee, he will not fail thee, neither forsake thee: fear not, neither be dismayed.


David bore testimony:

Psalm 23
1{A Psalm of David.} The LORD is my shepherd; I shall not want.

John 10
4 And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice.

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Ephesians 2:8-10 Good News Translation (GNT)
8-9 For it is by God's grace that you have been saved through faith. It is not the result of your own efforts, but God's gift, so that no one can boast about it. 10 God has made us what we are, and in our union with Christ Jesus he has created us for a life of good deeds, which he has already prepared for us to do.
 
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(New Testament | John 21:25)

25 And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen.
 
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Ephesians 2:8-10 Good News Translation (GNT)
8-9 For it is by God's grace that you have been saved through faith. It is not the result of your own efforts, but God's gift, so that no one can boast about it. 10 God has made us what we are, and in our union with Christ Jesus he has created us for a life of good deeds, which he has already prepared for us to do.
God's gift is grace (the atonement), not faith. Faith is through works:

(New Testament | James 2:14 - 20)

14 What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?
15 If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,
16 And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?
17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
 
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(New Testament | John 21:25)

25 And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen.
And you think somehow you BoM is in there--right?

Mormons fit this verse:

2 Timothy 3:7
7 always learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
 
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2 Timothy 3 (ESV)
16 All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, 17 that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work.

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The Book of Mormon is true.
Then provide the evidence that the people, places, and events that are recorded in your book actually existed. Where is Hill Cumorah, specifically? Where is the evidence of millions of non-Native American people existing in close proximity to each other? Where is the infrastructure - roads, houses, etc.?

Until you can demonstrate that such places existed, your claim of the BoM being true is hogwash.
 
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Then provide the evidence that the people, places, and events that are recorded in your book actually existed. Where is Hill Cumorah, specifically? Where is the evidence of millions of non-Native American people existing in close proximity to each other? Where is the infrastructure - roads, houses, etc.?

Until you can demonstrate that such places existed, your claim of the BoM being true is hogwash.

We were told that the BoM had to be false because no one in Central America used swords. Then the macuahuitl - a sword made of wood and obsidian - was brought back into the public consciousness. This is alongside spears and morningstars made of wood and obsidian, all of which would have been fierce indeed in melee. (Yes, I've handled obsidian IRL back in the geology lab; it's common as dirt in Central America and can get a good, sharp edge going.)

We were told that the BoM had to be false because it referred to armor. Now it's known that the Aztecs (IIRC) used a type of stiffened and padded clothing alongside wooden shields and helmets. This would indeed have been effective against basic weaponry like sling bullets and clubs, and would have offered at least token protection against obsidian weapons.

We were told that the BoM had to be false because metal working did not exist. Now it's known that the people of Central America worked extensively with gold and copper, even using an alloy of the two known as Tumbaga that fits the description of what was used with the plates Joseph recovered.

As time goes on, more and more claims of impossibility fall by the wayside as discoveries are made about what went on.
 
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Then provide the evidence that the people, places, and events that are recorded in your book actually existed. Where is Hill Cumorah, specifically? Where is the evidence of millions of non-Native American people existing in close proximity to each other? Where is the infrastructure - roads, houses, etc.?

Until you can demonstrate that such places existed, your claim of the BoM being true is hogwash.
You are sounding like the atheists who would ask you to show them God. We are to live by faith:

(New Testament | John 20:29 - 31)

29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.
30 ¶ And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book:
31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.

Joseph Smith dictated the Book of Mormon to his scribes in 65 days and no one has been able to prove it false yet.
 
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We were told that the BoM had to be false because no one in Central America used swords. Then the macuahuitl - a sword made of wood and obsidian - was brought back into the public consciousness. This is alongside spears and morningstars made of wood and obsidian, all of which would have been fierce indeed in melee. (Yes, I've handled obsidian IRL back in the geology lab; it's common as dirt in Central America and can get a good, sharp edge going.)

We were told that the BoM had to be false because it referred to armor. Now it's known that the Aztecs (IIRC) used a type of stiffened and padded clothing alongside wooden shields and helmets. This would indeed have been effective against basic weaponry like sling bullets and clubs, and would have offered at least token protection against obsidian weapons.

We were told that the BoM had to be false because metal working did not exist. Now it's known that the people of Central America worked extensively with gold and copper, even using an alloy of the two known as Tumbaga that fits the description of what was used with the plates Joseph recovered.

As time goes on, more and more claims of impossibility fall by the wayside as discoveries are made about what went on.
Way to avoid the actual question asked.
 
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You are sounding like the atheists who would ask you to show them God. We are to live by faith:

(New Testament | John 20:29 - 31)

29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.
30 ¶ And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book:
31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.

Joseph Smith dictated the Book of Mormon to his scribes in 65 days and no one has been able to prove it false yet.
Way to avoid the actual question asked.
 
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Mormonism:

Brigham Young declared,
" . . . and he that confesseth not that Jesus has come in the flesh and sent Joseph Smith with the fullness of the Gospel to this generation, is not of God, but is Antichrist," (Journal of Discourses, vol. 9, p. 312).
 
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Way to avoid the actual question asked.
The Hill Comorah is at 43.0070° N, 77.2258° W.
Much of the landscape of North America was changed due to earthquakes and volcanoes, however there are roads and ruins in Mesoamerica where 90% of the people were wiped out by disease.
Mesoamerica - Wikipedia

Go ahead and say what you are going to say, but remember what the atheist say about the flood.
 
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