Last edited:
Hannity previews Trump’s final defense: So what if he’s guilty?
- Thread starter tulc
- Start date
"Perhaps" a lot more?
What a generous assessment, giving him the benefit of the doubt as you have.
I have always been told we should try to "catch people being good." For example, our governor, who is very hard to catch, recently and uncharacteristically said our state would be willing to take refugees. I thought, "I've caught him being good! I must write a thank you note in hopes he might decide to try goodness twice!"
With Trump, I am still waiting, but should I some day be surprised, I will write a thank you note.
What a generous assessment, giving him the benefit of the doubt as you have.
I have always been told we should try to "catch people being good." For example, our governor, who is very hard to catch, recently and uncharacteristically said our state would be willing to take refugees. I thought, "I've caught him being good! I must write a thank you note in hopes he might decide to try goodness twice!"
With Trump, I am still waiting, but should I some day be surprised, I will write a thank you note.
Upvote
0
Hannity previews Trump’s final defense: So what if he’s guilty?
[QUOTEIt has long been obvious that Republicans would ultimately converge on this final defense of President Trump: Even if he did everything he has been accused of doing, and perhaps a lot more that we don’t know about, it’s absolutely fine! ]
tulc()
Sorry but you went for the shinny headline but didn't deal with any of the substance and context of the article. It's always been a valid point on many fronts and I'd suggest no one should let the Democrats draw the line to define what first of all was wrong to begin with. The Dems started with a premise something was wrong and then demanded the other seek to clear their name of their imposed guilt.
It's perfectly valid to see points on two levels to be made. One that something didn't happen and two even if it did there's nothing impeachable about it.
Can be. It most certainly would take the air right out the tires of the Democrats wanting some long drawn out wrangling process costing tax payers who knows how much money. Could be wise just to strike right at the heart of the thing and make them prove issue A or B even was an impeachable offence if it did happen.
Upvote
0
- May 28, 2015
- 14,595
- 7,106
- Faith
- Christian
- Marital Status
- Single
- Politics
- US-Constitution
Based on what evidence? Not secondhand stuff or I believed or I thought or I assumed or I presumed or someone told me they overheard or.......
Please feel free to list the evidence....no one else has been able to....
Upvote
0
- Sep 6, 2016
- 15,961
- 10,817
- 73
- Country
- United States
- Faith
- Calvinist
- Marital Status
- Married
- Politics
- US-Republican
tulc(
)[/QUOTE]You actually got this one correct tulc.
Looking at Trumps competition for 2020
no matter what he's done
he is the far better choice.
PS
But, he is going to be proven innocent.
And life goes on
Dems back to the drawing board for another 4.
M-Bob
Upvote
0
Kaon
Well-Known Member
- Mar 12, 2018
- 5,676
- 2,349
- Country
- United States
- Faith
- Other Religion
- Marital Status
- Celibate
tulc(
That this may also be true is a testament to the downfall of America, which is why (the next step) is the physical fall (i.e. war on the American continent). The States have been destabilized from the outside, and from the inside. For decades it was just conspiracy and woo, but now that the reality of an aimless youth and elder population has come to pass the destabilization is nearly complete. Whenever a nation reneges on its original "values" - whether horrible or humane - the nation falls.
America has tried very hard to removed itself from the history of entitlement, segregation and slavery, barbarism, imperialism and racism - with a republican and Christian facade. Now, the nation tries very hard to be inclusive, humane, socially and environmentally aware and even politically liberal, it has reneged on its original foundation. Some (not nearly all) would argue it is better America tries not to be its former entitled, barbaric, imperialist, racist self. It really doesn't matter; anytime a nation reneges on its former foundation it will fall.
It is why we are hot overseas again...it cannot be helped. It is why we have nothing but muck to choose from... it cannot be helped. What we are seeing is, if we are lucky, the first complete collapse of the empire known as the United States of America. If we are lucky, we will survive this collapse and show our real strength as a nation. And, what will be left will be the real America - not this facade that we see today, trying to be something it is not.
I definitely believe Trump will remain in office beyond 2020.
Upvote
0
The Barbarian
Crabby Old White Guy
- Apr 3, 2003
- 26,089
- 11,395
- 76
- Country
- United States
- Faith
- Catholic
- Marital Status
- Married
- Politics
- US-Libertarian
Upvote
0
This site stays free and accessible to all because of donations from people like you.
Consider making a one-time or monthly donation. We appreciate your support!
- Dan Doughty and Team Christian Forums
The Barbarian
Crabby Old White Guy
- Apr 3, 2003
- 26,089
- 11,395
- 76
- Country
- United States
- Faith
- Catholic
- Marital Status
- Married
- Politics
- US-Libertarian
Upvote
0
In this case it might be. Not all actions are sufficient to justify removing a president. Personally I think it is, but I'm sure the Senate doesn't. In some ways it may be better for them to admit the truth, issue a formal rebuke, and say in their judgement it's not enough to remove him, rather than accepting lies.
Upvote
0
Albion
Facilitator
Couldn't we all agree that a president ought not to be removed UNLESS he's committed a crime? That's what the Constitution seems to be saying.
Even then, it's not obligatory. Past presidents have committed many while in office but the will of Congress was not to impeach and convict.
Even then, it's not obligatory. Past presidents have committed many while in office but the will of Congress was not to impeach and convict.
Upvote
0
TBT, he HAS committed crimes. He defrauded thousands of students in a fake university, paying $25 million in reparations to them. His "foundation" was shut down by New York State and $2 million in fines were levied because they were not spending the money on legitimate charities. He had Cohen pay Stormy Daniel out of campaign funds--to shut her up three weeks before the election. Same thing with the Playboy model...
It seems likely that if he sets foot on NY soil when he is mercifully voted out of office that the FBI will meet his plane. Or NYS police. The cool thing about the state charges is that Trump can't pardon himself. He can't pardon his children. He can't pardon his accomplices...it could be off to Sing Sing. Or Rikers. Or wherever Bernie Madoff is.
Mueller found ten cases of obstruction of justice (a crime) but the Accomplice General Barr said, "Can't charge a sitting president." And so his report instructed the DOJ to keep all his research because he can't hide away from his misdeeds in the presidency forever.
The House should have charged him with bribery, but his network of obstructors--in the House, Senate, and DOJ--prevented them from getting the witnesses and documents they needed to make an ironclad case.
An innocent man doesn't act that way. To me the most telling evidence of his guilt is the elaborate lengths he goes to to hide it.
It seems likely that if he sets foot on NY soil when he is mercifully voted out of office that the FBI will meet his plane. Or NYS police. The cool thing about the state charges is that Trump can't pardon himself. He can't pardon his children. He can't pardon his accomplices...it could be off to Sing Sing. Or Rikers. Or wherever Bernie Madoff is.
Mueller found ten cases of obstruction of justice (a crime) but the Accomplice General Barr said, "Can't charge a sitting president." And so his report instructed the DOJ to keep all his research because he can't hide away from his misdeeds in the presidency forever.
The House should have charged him with bribery, but his network of obstructors--in the House, Senate, and DOJ--prevented them from getting the witnesses and documents they needed to make an ironclad case.
An innocent man doesn't act that way. To me the most telling evidence of his guilt is the elaborate lengths he goes to to hide it.
Upvote
0
The Barbarian
Crabby Old White Guy
- Apr 3, 2003
- 26,089
- 11,395
- 76
- Country
- United States
- Faith
- Catholic
- Marital Status
- Married
- Politics
- US-Libertarian
Trump has already announced that he will not tolerate a rebuke from his servants in the Senate. They will obey, I think.
Upvote
0
This site stays free and accessible to all because of donations from people like you.
Consider making a one-time or monthly donation. We appreciate your support!
- Dan Doughty and Team Christian Forums
- Sep 6, 2016
- 15,961
- 10,817
- 73
- Country
- United States
- Faith
- Calvinist
- Marital Status
- Married
- Politics
- US-Republican
Upvote
0
The Barbarian
Crabby Old White Guy
- Apr 3, 2003
- 26,089
- 11,395
- 76
- Country
- United States
- Faith
- Catholic
- Marital Status
- Married
- Politics
- US-Libertarian
Yep.
REPORTER: There’s some talk of — among lawmakers — of censuring you, instead of impeachment. What do you think about that?
PRESIDENT TRUMP: Unacceptable. I did nothing wrong. I heard about it. Now they want to go to censure because they have no case for impeachment, so they want to go to censure. I don’t want them to go to censure. I did nothing — I don’t mind be censured if you do something wrong. I did nothing wrong.
Trump Rejects Censure: "Unacceptable"
Upvote
0
Similar threads
- Locked
