We have 10 years to save Earth's biodiversity as mass extinction caused by humans takes hold, UN war

Akita Suggagaki · Jan 15, 2020

jasonMalloy1999 said:
listen, you right, the heavenly father wont let anything foil his plans, specially this pathetic world so of course he is going to protect us no matter what until the second coming

If you built your house on sand will the Lord keep it from falling?
Matthew 7:24-27

24 “Therefore everyone who hears these words of mine and puts them into practice is like a wise man who built his house on the rock. 25 The rain came down, the streams rose, and the winds blew and beat against that house; yet it did not fall, because it had its foundation on the rock. 26 But everyone who hears these words of mine and does not put them into practice is like a foolish man who built his house on sand. 27 The rain came down, the streams rose, and the winds blew and beat against that house, and it fell with a great crash.”

expos4ever · Jan 15, 2020

Kenny'sID said:
Criminal? LOL

Then you are saying the bible, Christ/God are wrong, and the world will not end when Christ returns? Will end later, before or what exactly are you saying?

Criminal, yes. What would you call behaviour that jeopardizes human and animal life.

In any event, the issue is not, in my opinion, whether Jesus will return but when - it is irresponsible to abandon our Biblically mandated responsibility to care for God’s creation just because we believe that Jesus is returning. Will He not be righteously ticked if, in the meantime, humans and animals suffer needlessly?

Kenny'sID · Jan 15, 2020

expos4ever said:
Criminal, yes. What would you call behaviour that jeopardizes human and animal life.

In any event, the issue is not, in my opinion, whether Jesus will return but when - it is irresponsible to abandon our Biblically mandated responsibility to care for God’s creation just because we believe that Jesus is returning. Will He not be righteously ticked if, in the meantime, humans and animals suffer needlessly?

See, God has to pretty much keep the earth livable till Christ returns, and the following scripture doesn't exactly scream human or animal destruction or that the earthi in terribly bad shape. IMO, that is to tell us. everything will be as usual, normal, or just fine when he returns and I think that is the basis of not worrying about it. But in the mean time, what do you think my outlook is going to cause me personally to do in order to jeopardize human or animal life, and why do you think that?

And on what you mentioned about the scientists...I'll take what the bible says over the opinion of all the scientists in the world.

Matthew 24:37-39 King James Version (KJV)
37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark,

Skreeper · Jan 15, 2020

jasonMalloy1999 said:
listen you right the heavenly father wont let anything foil his plans specially this pathetic world so of cours hs going to protect us nt matter what until the second coming

It's really disheartening to see young people like you in a state of indoctrination like you're in. Your parents or whomever taught you this really did you a disservice.

It's not surprising when this comes from older generations but millennials and zoomers really should be better than that.

Kenny'sID · Jan 15, 2020

Skreeper said:
It's not surprising when this comes from older generations but millennials and zoomers really should be better than that.

I think it's great younger people still have enough sense to know what's good for them....more so than some adults.

Skreeper said:
It's really disheartening to see young people like you in a state of indoctrination like you're in. Your parents or whomever taught you this really did you a disservice.

I would disagree, your parents or whoever taught you to be an Atheist did you a bit more than a disservice, but they can takes some of the blame for where you spend eternity. Unfortunately unless some get taught the right thing from a young age they never do end up on the right path, so it's likely the damage is already done....I'm sorry.

jasonMalloy1999 · Jan 15, 2020

Skreeper said:
It's really disheartening to see young people like you in a state of indoctrination like you're in. Your parents or whomever taught you this really did you a disservice.

It's not surprising when this comes from older generations but millennials and zoomers really should be better than that.

nah but i dont give a ..... about science god controls the earth not nasa or anyone else

wing2000 · Jan 15, 2020

jasonMalloy1999 said:
nah but i dont give a ..... about science god controls the earth not nasa or anyone else

...then maybe you should find another board to post on if you really don't give a ________

expos4ever · Jan 15, 2020

Someone cited Matthew 24 in support of the belief that Jesus is coming to fix things.

This is precisely what I meant when, in an earlier post, I referred to “dubious interpretations”. As do some scholars of high repute, I believe that this text refers to something that has already happened in the first century. I can explain, if requested.

If this is so, then those who are willing to abdicate the otherwise clear Biblical mandate to care for the planet in the hope that Jesus is coming soon have made a huge mistake with devastating global consequences.

All because they misinterpreted a particular chunk of verses.

What’s worse, I pretty much guarantee that they will not even consider the possibility they are mistaken - another hurtful consequence of the fundamentalist mindset.

expos4ever · Jan 15, 2020

jasonMalloy1999 said:
nah but i dont give a ..... about science god controls the earth not nasa or anyone else

This is really how you want to defend your position?

GOD Shines Forth! · Jan 15, 2020

expos4ever said:
You appear to be willing to reject the findings of thousands of scientific experts...

Just as others reject the findings of dissenting scientists (which is what real science should have, dissenters). The problem is that the dissenters are denied the doled out money, so we end up with bought and paid for "consensus".

The "climate crisis" is merely a lever for global control, as "how else can we address this worldwide problem?!?!?". Puny man has no power to destroy earth, but the Lord is going to in due time.

Kenny'sID · Jan 15, 2020

expos4ever said:
Someone cited Matthew 24 in support of the belief that Jesus is coming to fix things.

This is precisely what I meant when, in an earlier post, I referred to “dubious interpretations”. As do some scholars of high repute, I believe that this text refers to something that has already happened in the first century. I can explain, if requested.

If this is so, then those who are willing to abdicate the otherwise clear Biblical mandate to care for the planet in the hope that Jesus is coming soon have made a huge mistake with devastating global consequences.

All because they misinterpreted a particular chunk of verses.

What’s worse, I pretty much guarantee that they will not even consider the possibility they are mistaken - another hurtful consequence of the fundamentalist mindset.

So, you are saying the second coming has already taken place?

Tat what Christ is coming for, and not sure what you mean by him coming to"fix things".

GOD Shines Forth! · Jan 15, 2020

expos4ever said:
What’s worse, I pretty much guarantee that they will not even consider the possibility they are mistaken - another hurtful consequence of the fundamentalist mindset.

Are you willing to consider the possibility YOU are mistaken?

expos4ever · Jan 15, 2020

Kenny'sID said:
So, you are saying the second coming has already taken place?

Tat what Christ is coming for, and not sure what you mean by him coming to"fix things".

No. I am not saying the second coming has taken place. I am suggesting that, in this text from Matthew, the “coming” of Jesus refers his enthronement as Lord of all creation, following the model presented in Daniel 7.

My point is that is criminally irresponsible to abdicate what we know is clear from Scripture- that we should be stewards of creation - by recklessly abusing the planet based on a dubious belief that this is ok because Jesus will come to bail us all out.

Akita Suggagaki · Jan 15, 2020

Kenny'sID said:
IMO

Glad you are only calling it that.

Nithavela · Jan 15, 2020

Kenny'sID said:
See, God has to pretty much keep the earth livable till Christ returns[...]

Deuteronomy 6:16 Do not test the LORD your God as you tested Him at Massah.

Goonie · Jan 15, 2020

civilwarbuff said:
Here we go again.....
UN sets 2030 biodiversity targets as we face a mass extinction - CNN
UN report: 1 million species at risk of extinction 02:54
(CNN)Almost a third of the Earth will need to be protected by 2030 and pollution cut by half to save our remaining wildlife, as we enter the planet's sixth era of mass extinction, according to a United Nations agency.

The UN Convention on Biological Diversity released a draft plan on Monday, which sets global goals to combat the ongoing biodiversity crisis in the coming decades.
The convention had set similar targets in 2010, at a summit in Japan. But the world failed to meet most of those 2020 goals -- and is now facing unprecedented extinction rates, threatened ecosystems, and severe consequences for human survival.

Time tables are soooooo accurate........

Those bloomin scientists can't count, or observe nature!

Oh wait a minute yes they can.

expos4ever · Jan 15, 2020

GOD Shines Forth! said:
Are you willing to consider the possibility YOU are mistaken?

Of course! But one thing should be clear: it is the fundamentalists who are certain about what they believe. By contrast, the scientific method - often dismissed by fundamentalists - embraces uncertainty.

Goonie · Jan 15, 2020

jasonMalloy1999 said:
god wont let it happen the world will end when jesus returns not when this crisis happens chilll

Please go to Australia and tell an Australian.

Ps. I am not liable for any hospital Bill's incurred.

Kenny'sID · Jan 15, 2020

expos4ever said:
No. I am not saying the second coming has taken place. I am suggesting that, in this text from Matthew, the “coming” of Jesus refers his enthronement as Lord of all creation, following the model presented in Daniel 7.

My point is that is criminally irresponsible to abdicate what we know is clear from Scripture- that we should be stewards of creation - by recklessly abusing the planet based on a dubious belief that this is ok because Jesus will come to bail us all out.

Recklessly?

What do you think calling a description of what is clearly the return of Christ/second coming, not only something else, but something thing that has already happened is? Seems to me your defense consists of anything you want to say is a fact, whether it is or not.

Kenny'sID · Jan 15, 2020

Nithavela said:
Deuteronomy 6:16 Do not test the LORD your God as you tested Him at Massah.

Has nothing to do with testing anyone, I simply believe what the bible said it would be like in the end. What do you think I'm going do to test him?

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