Is someone who threatens to bring a gun to church, a true Christian?

Bible Highlighter · Jan 12, 2020

baptistgirl21 said:
I can't speak to her without having a panic attack. Literally, just thinking about talking to her is causing me to panic right now. I have talked to her many times though. I tried giving her good Christian advice, I tried encouraging her so that way she feels good about herself, I even offered to find her a new friend. She gets so bitter and mean and makes me feel like I'm a failure. She accuses me of not being a true Christian if I don't hang out with her or do exactly what she asks me to do. She doesn't even ask, she demands. And if I don't do it, she gets very angry. God is love, she is not love. I thought after she got saved, I would become friends with her again. I thought she had changed, but she was the exact same. Once I realized she was still obsessive and demanding, I let her know that I wasn't going to be treated this way and that I needed a break. She didn't care. She didn't even care that my mother passed away. She spread lies about me and told everyone that I'm crazy. She gave my phone number out to strangers. I've gotten threatening phone calls because of that too. She even bullied me online. This was after she got saved too. She came to church and sat behind me, staring at me almost the entire time. It made my stomach turn. I panicked and everything. She's stopped harassing me at the moment. Mostly because her family stepped in and took control of the situation. I just fear that if I go to church tomorrow, she will be there and I will have a panic attack. Also, I'm afraid she will try to sit with me or follow me around like she did 2 months ago.

Jesus says we are to pray for our enemies and to do good unto them. In this case, I would leave her alone and just pray every day for her and to ask for God's protection. I would have nothing to do with your church anymore, and I would dedicate every waking hour you have to studying the New Testament in prayer with the Lord. Ask for God to help you to understand His Word. If you see something in the Bible you don't like, do not try to change it just because you don't like what it says. Just read it, and believe it. Beware of the many churches out there, and the many articles online that promote that you can sin and still be saved on some level all because one has a belief alone on Jesus.

Bible Highlighter · Jan 12, 2020

baptistgirl21 said:
I couldn't imagine moving away. Although I do think about it often considering my stalker lives 2 minutes away from me by car. So yeah, major panicking goes on every night.

This is a call for you to pray for her salvation, whereby God will change her heart to love God, and all people. This is a call for you to pray for your protection. This is a call for you to pray for God's peace to be upon you and not fear. Keeping praying, and keep asking God, and you will not be afraid.

Bible Highlighter · Jan 12, 2020

baptistgirl21 said:
She is upset with me because I unfriended her after she threatened to beat me up in church. I became friends with her again and again afterwards, even after she got saved. She was still the same. When she threatened to bring a gun to church, she actually was pretending to be someone else online. I realized it was her and let her know that I knew it was her. That's when she deleted the account. I took snapshots of every message she sent. It sends chills down my spine just thinking about it. I'm literally on the verge of having a panic attack right now.

I would not have anything more to do with her except but to pray for her in that God changes her heart so that she can truly be saved. She is not saved because her actions show that she is not saved. No Christian threatens the lives of the brethren with physical death. The fact that your church cannot see this wrong only shows their own blindness to what God's Word really teaches. Stay away from your church, and stay away from her and just pray for her every day. Study your New Testament every day in prayer with God. Ask God for the understanding as you read it and take it slow. Learning God's Word does not come overnight, and the good change in your life that you are seeking by prayer is not an overnight process, either. We have to be persistent in our study of God's Word and in prayer.

Cis.jd · Jan 12, 2020

baptistgirl21 said:
Long story short, I've been stalked for months and this girl threatened to bring a gun to shoot up the church. She ended up coming back to church 3 more times and I think she's back for good now. Problem is, I'm terrified of going back now. I'm very upset with my family because they criticized me for feeling like she shouldn't be allowed back in the building, and also because I say she's not a true Christian. They even encouraged me not to get a restraining order. Because if I do, that means either me or my stalker has to leave the church, which they already said would be me, and they think that's causing conflict within the church. Why should I have to leave the church I was born and raised in all because some psychopath decides he/she wants to shoot up the place? It's absolutely ridiculous. Ok, back to the main question. Would a true Christian really do this and am I wrong for saying she's not a true Christian? I mean, she's so scary and the fact that no one cares is absolutely absurd.
I know only God can judge, but the bible also says to give a righteous judgment. I'm not judging by appearances or anything. I'm judging the fact that she has harassed me and made my life a living nightmare, despite the death of my sweet mother, and threatened to bring a gun to church. Pray for me if you all can. I was just feeling better until I found out she was coming back to church.

I think the question of her being a true christian or not is the last of your worries.. The question about her religious views is a silly and stupid thing you are taking concern over under the circumstances detailed here.

Go to the police now before she kills someone.

ChicanaRose · Jan 12, 2020

LaBèlla said:
I think this situation is demonstrating the necessity of exercising prudence in your connections. When someone displays unstable behavior don’t ignore it. Whether they’re across the street or several states over.

It isn’t your job to fix her. Build friendships with people who’ve demonstrated a concern for your welfare and respect your boundaries. Demands are a warning sign. Don’t excuse it.

Spite is a dangerous characteristic. It fosters hate, vengefulness, and malice. Most spiteful people never change. Ask the Lord for godly companions and forget about her.

~Bella

@baptistgirl21, this is an important advice. Because even if the issue with her gets resolved, or even if you move away, you could end up inviting the same kind of people again into your life. Unfortunately, there are a few others out there who are like her. Be careful and stay safe.

steppinrazor · Jan 12, 2020

Darkhorse said:
You should get a restraining order against her. Listen to the threats.

I'll pass on the "true Christian" part - that's above my qualifications.

For the record, I carry a concealed gun in church, but no one knows it.
No threats, no intimidation, just quiet safety for the congregation.

I wont. You believe that Christ is your savior and died on the cross for your sins? If your answer is yes, you are a true christian and no work, sin, mistake, or word from your mouth will ever change that. Rest Easily with that Assurance.

Mountainmanbob · Jan 12, 2020

baptistgirl21 said:
Long story short, I've been stalked for months and this girl threatened to bring a gun to shoot up the church.

She ended up coming back to church 3 more times and I think she's back for good now. Problem is, I'm terrified of going back now. I'm very upset with my family because they criticized me for feeling like she shouldn't be allowed back in the building, and also because I say she's not a true Christian. They even encouraged me not to get a restraining order. Because if I do, that means either me or my stalker has to leave the church, which they already said would be me, and they think that's causing conflict within the church. Why should I have to leave the church I was born and raised in all because some psychopath decides he/she wants to shoot up the place? It's absolutely ridiculous. Ok, back to the main question. Would a true Christian really do this and am I wrong for saying she's not a true Christian? I mean, she's so scary and the fact that no one cares is absolutely absurd.
I know only God can judge, but the bible also says to give a righteous judgment. I'm not judging by appearances or anything. I'm judging the fact that she has harassed me and made my life a living nightmare, despite the death of my sweet mother, and threatened to bring a gun to church. Pray for me if you all can. I was just feeling better until I found out she was coming back to church.

That's a game stopper right there.

A restraining order gives the cops the ok to remove her guns. She has lost that privilege.

Why your Church let's her still attend
does not make sense.

Years ago I was staked by a lady.
Cops chased her away from here a few times
before finally charging her
and taking her to jail.
A man would have went to jail
after the first incident.

M-Bob

Blade · Jan 12, 2020

Yes... some dress awful some dress up way to much on and on. Not how salvation works

Cis.jd · Jan 12, 2020

baptistgirl21 said:
I did let them know and they done nothing. I can't be responsible if I told the police, could I? I sure hope not. If so, oh lord. Another panic attack.

If she actually does hurt someone then yes you are responsible. Unless she has been exhibiting normal behavior and is minding her own business for sometime.

joshua 1 9 · Jan 12, 2020

Bible Highlighter said:
So I would leave your church for good

From the beginning of this I felt she should leave the church and go someplace else. At least for a while until this situation has passed. There are a lot of churches out there.

ChicanaRose · Jan 13, 2020

Bible Highlighter said:
Stay away from your church, and stay away from her and just pray for her every day. Study your New Testament every day in prayer with God.

Yes, it's a good idea to stay away from the church that will not take a life-threatening situation seriously.

And living within a couple minute drive of the stalker's residence is unsafe, especially absent police protection and familial support.

May God reveal to @baptistgirl21 the next step of action to take in prayer and through the scriptures.

ChristianGirl_96 · Jan 13, 2020

Please inform the police

Rob_Bishop · Jan 13, 2020

baptistgirl21 said:
Long story short, I've been stalked for months and this girl threatened to bring a gun to shoot up the church. She ended up coming back to church 3 more times and I think she's back for good now. Problem is, I'm terrified of going back now. I'm very upset with my family because they criticized me for feeling like she shouldn't be allowed back in the building, and also because I say she's not a true Christian. They even encouraged me not to get a restraining order. Because if I do, that means either me or my stalker has to leave the church, which they already said would be me, and they think that's causing conflict within the church. Why should I have to leave the church I was born and raised in all because some psychopath decides he/she wants to shoot up the place? It's absolutely ridiculous. Ok, back to the main question. Would a true Christian really do this and am I wrong for saying she's not a true Christian? I mean, she's so scary and the fact that no one cares is absolutely absurd.
I know only God can judge, but the bible also says to give a righteous judgment. I'm not judging by appearances or anything. I'm judging the fact that she has harassed me and made my life a living nightmare, despite the death of my sweet mother, and threatened to bring a gun to church. Pray for me if you all can. I was just feeling better until I found out she was coming back to church.

Maybe you should discuss this with a member of authority in your church. He may be able to give you the best advice, as he should have a better understanding of the situation. Maybe he can get her to leave?

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