Being a Christian and tithing and offerings

JohnClay

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I would carefully read 1 Corinthians 15.
Perhaps my beliefs will change and become more conservative in the future. BTW this is about the minister MLK:
Was Martin Luther King Jr. a Christian?
He stripped the doctrines of the divine sonship of Christ, the virgin birth and bodily resurrection of all literal meaning, saying, “we [could] argue with all degrees of logic that these doctrines are historically and [philosophically] untenable.”
 
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A thing to remember is that the original major consequence of sin was death ( Romans 5:12-14). It was Cain who murdered his brother Abel that brought about moral degradation ( Genesis 4:1-15). It is in this fallen reality that we understand by science; science is neutral but it is mortal & ultimately, a death sentence (morals aside).

That being said, the moral consequence of sin cannot be ignored (Matthew 15:1-20, James 4:1-6 etc.). From the fall of Cain, Eve bore Seth who probably represents an ancestor figure of our current, conflicted human condition ( Genesis 4:25-26, Romans 2, Ecclesiastes 1 (all of Ecclesiastes, etc.). The logic of this world is death; the Lord overcame death so we will be able to live ( see Romans 8).
 
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Thanks everyone.

BTW I was looking at the story of the rich young man in Matthew, Mark and Luke - the man is asking about how to get eternal life. As well as obeying the commandments Jesus said he needs to sell everything and give it to the poor. The man goes away sad and Jesus doesn't seem to tell him that he can still be saved. Also in Mark 12 and Luke 21 a poor widow is praised for giving everything she has to live on.

I believe the point in those scripture was that the rich young ruler lived his things wealth more than being saved or following Christ..where the window gave all she had because she had trust and faith in Christ
 
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Also in Mark 12 and Luke 21 a poor widow is praised for giving everything she has to live on.

That temple treasury box had nothing to do with the tithe. If you go back into the Law of Moses and study the definition of the tithe, it NEVER had anything to do with the wages of wage earners. It was only a tenth of the increase from livestock and produce.

So, there is value in studying what the scriptures actually say, and what they do NOT say in relation to all the false teachings from pulpits over the centuries.

Jr
 
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I've been thinking about the idea of putting Jesus first but I'm reluctant to give a substantial offering... at the moment I might give 1% at the very most. I am struggling financially and my wife helps support me. I try to minimize my expenses. Is it possible to be saved while only giving about 1% or less? I guess you can only serve one master.

As far as I can understand, you are turning this problem totally upside down.

a) Yes, it’s possible to be a Christian and not give a single cent: The law of thitering had it’s end (Norwegian reading: it’s FINAL end) at Calvary, exactly like anything else “given by Moses”: Read Hebrews - carefully.

b) No, it’s not possible to come reluctant to Christ. When becoming a Christian, ANYTHING in one’s life belongs to God, one’s bank account(s) and wallet(s) included. One thus need to put it all for God and ask: “T thou knowest about my finacial struggles, thou know about my wife, about her heart and her possibilites, thou knowest about mine/our frigh for the facto running into bankcrupcy by wrong use of mine/our money and thou knowest about anything else. What doest THOU want me do at present.” Then one do like prescribet into 1 Corinthinas 16: “Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him,” Being reluctant to handle this way will close the door as, God don’t ask about a part you to be his, but ALL of you. Read Mark 10,21-22 again: “Then Jesus beholding him loved him, and said unto him, One thing thou lackest: go thy way, sell whatsoever thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, take up the cross, and follow me.And he was sad at that saying, and went away grieved: for he had great possessions.” The problem was NOT his great possessions - Jesus LOVED him. The problem was his unvillingness to give Jesus everything what belonged to Him. Result: He could have been one of Christ's diciples and apostles, today we don't even know his name.

As youself mention, it’s only possible to serve ONE master, and are you not prepared to give him EVERYTHING in your life to him for HIS consideraton, you don’t have a master - and isn't Jesus your master, your Christianity is void and nothing.

Thus, JohnClay, put this issue - as everything else - down for Him while praying over the case, reading your Bible and requesting mature Christians abolut specific advice Then do from what you into His presence conclude about this case , be it no single cent or a lot more than 1 %. .
 
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