When did the Old Covenant truly "disappear" and end?

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What are you basing that on?

Right from the start that's not true - because preterists, most certainly, believe in life after death (unlike the Sadducees).

The argument about Hymenaeus and Philetus was that they'd claimed the resurrection had already occurred prior to 70 AD (if that were physical in nature - how would people had been concerned about missing it?). Also....if the expected resurrection that Paul wrote of were to be physical.....then why didn't Paul make his correction about the *nature* of the resurrection? Instead......Paul rebuked H & P for their *timing*.


"Hymenaeus and Philetus, men who have gone astray from the truth saying that the resurrection has already taken place, and thus they upset the faith of some." 2 Tim 2:17,18
 
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What are you basing that on?

Right from the start that's not true - because preterists, most certainly, believe in life after death (unlike the Sadducees).

The argument about Hymenaeus and Philetus was that they'd claimed the resurrection had already occurred prior to 70 AD (if that were physical in nature - how would people had been concerned about missing it?). Also....if the expected resurrection that Paul wrote of were to be physical.....then why didn't Paul make his correction about the *nature* of the resurrection? Instead......Paul rebuked H & P for their *timing*.


"Hymenaeus and Philetus, men who have gone astray from the truth saying that the resurrection has already taken place, and thus they upset the faith of some." 2 Tim 2:17,18

Like you, Hymenaeus and Philetus argued the resurrection had already occurred. This was creating confusion with the Church. The resurrection will occur at the second coming!
 
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Like you, Hymenaeus and Philetus argued the resurrection had already occurred. This was creating confusion with the Church. The resurrection will occur at the second coming!
Unlike me, though, they were teaching that the resurrection occurred during the Old Covenant Mosaic Law - that was their heresy. It was creating confusion with the church - I agree - because it went against everything taught about the New Covenant.
 
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Unlike me, though, they were teaching that the resurrection occurred during the Old Covenant Mosaic Law - that was their heresy. It was creating confusion with the church - I agree - because it went against everything taught about the New Covenant.

Acts 24:15 says, “there shall be a resurrection of the dead (singular), both of the just and unjust.”

Is this past or future?

Jesus taught in the parable of the wheat and tares in Matthew 13:24-30, “The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field: But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way. But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also. So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares? He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up? But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them. Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, (1) Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but (2) gather the wheat into my barn.”

Verses 37-43 continues, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man; The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one; The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world (or aion or age); and the reapers are the angels. (1) As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world (or aion or age). The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. (2) Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father.”

Is this past or future?

John 11:21-27 records: “Then said Martha unto Jesus, Lord, if thou hadst been here, my brother had not died. But I know, that even now, whatsoever thou wilt ask of God, God will give it thee. Jesus saith unto her, Thy brother shall rise again. Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day. Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this? She saith unto him, Yea, Lord: I believe that thou art the Christ, the Son of God, which should come into the world.”

Is this past or future?

Christ had previously taught in John 6:39-44, 54, where He said, “And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day. And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day …No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day ... Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.”

Is this past or future?

Christ tells us in John 12:48, He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.”

Is this past or future?
 
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Unlike me, though, they were teaching that the resurrection occurred during the Old Covenant Mosaic Law - that was their heresy. It was creating confusion with the church - I agree - because it went against everything taught about the New Covenant.

You still have not answered my questions:
  • Are we still not living in an "evil age" today?
  • Do people still marry today?
 
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You still have not answered my questions:
  • Are we still not living in an "evil age" today?
  • Do people still marry today?
Maybe it'd help if you re-read the thread. I have answered those. We were just discussing the one about marriage just a page back (which wasn't long ago).
 
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Maybe it'd help if you re-read the thread. I have answered those. We were just discussing the one about marriage just a page back (which wasn't long ago).

But for some reason you will not admit that there is marriage today and that our current age is an evil age. You seem to live in self-denial. Your reluctance to answer simple questions does not advance your beliefs. Notwithstanding, I will continue on regardless with what I was going to post.

The context with Matthew 22:23-33 is that the Sadducees were trying to mock the reality of a future physical resurrection. That was the whole setting! That is what Jesus was responding to. In response, He spoke about the reality of the age to come that would be ushered in by a physical resurrection at His glorious climatic second coming.

Matthew 22:23-33 records: “The same day came to him the Sadducees, which say that there is no resurrection, and asked him, Saying, Master, Moses said, If a man die, having no children, his brother shall marry his wife, and raise up seed unto his brother. Now there were with us seven brethren: and the first, when he had married a wife, deceased, and, having no issue, left his wife unto his brother: Likewise the second also, and the third, unto the seventh. And last of all the woman died also. Therefore in the resurrection whose wife shall she be of the seven? for they all had her. Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God. For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven. But as touching the resurrection of the dead, have ye not read that which was spoken unto you by God, saying, I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living. And when the multitude heard this, they were astonished at his doctrine.”

The Sadducees invented a story about a generic man who died (physically), in an attempt to discredit the whole concept of a literal future physical resurrection, like many Preterists do today.

Luke 20:27-40 parallels: “Then came to him certain of the Sadducees, which deny that there is any resurrection; and they asked him, Saying, Master, Moses wrote unto us, If any man's brother die, having a wife, and he die without children, that his brother should take his wife, and raise up seed unto his brother. There were therefore seven brethren: and the first took a wife, and died without children. And the second took her to wife, and he died childless. And the third took her; and in like manner the seven also: and they left no children, and died. Last of all the woman died also. Therefore in the resurrection whose wife of them is she? for seven had her to wife. And Jesus answering said unto them, The children of this world (or aion or age) marry, and are given in marriage: But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world (or aion or age), and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage: Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection. Now that the dead are raised, even Moses shewed at the bush, when he calleth the Lord the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob. For he is not a God of the dead, but of the living: for all live unto him. Then certain of the scribes answering said, Master, thou hast well said. And after that they durst not ask him any question at all.”

Luke adds more meat on the bones compared to what Matthew shares. Luke shows Christ rebuking the cunningness of the Sadducees and their attempt to deny a future physical resurrection at His return. In doing this, he also rebukes modern day Preterists, who likewise argue that the resurrection occurred in the past, in AD70.

It is impossible to miss the careful comparison between “this world” and “that world” or “this age” and “that age.” Those who live in this current evil age are described as “the children of this age” but those who are depicted as being “worthy to obtain that age” to come are described exclusively as “the children of God, being the children of the resurrection” and as being “equal unto the angels.” One must be suitably qualified in order inherit the new world to come. Those that are worthy to obtain that age are not mortals and not sinners; they are rather glorified saints – who incidentally never marry or die.

Let us pause for a moment and consider what is being said here: people marry right up until the second coming, but in the age to come they don’t marry because the saints of God will be adorned with their new glorified eternal bodies. What is more: Christ shows that people die right up until the second coming but in the age to come they don’t die. Why? Because sin, sinners and the wicked are not welcome on the new glorified perfected earth that Christ introduces at the second coming. This is not the case with the Premillennial and Preterist age to come; marriage, divorce, funerals and mourning continues unabated. This passage forbids both the Premillennial and Preterist theories.

The contrast here moves from: ‘marriage’ to ‘no marriage’, ‘death’ to ‘no death’. Marriage disappears! Death disappears! The turning point is the glorious coming of Christ and the resurrection that accompanies it. If words carry any meaning in Scripture then the whole Premillennial and Preterist schemes falls apart with such a passage. After all, in their paradigm, sin, corruption, death and rebellion continues on unabated in the supposed Premillennial and Preterist ‘ages to come’.
 
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Maybe it'd help if you re-read the thread. I have answered those. We were just discussing the one about marriage just a page back (which wasn't long ago).

Can you also please address post 344?
 
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The context with Matthew 22:23-33 is that the Sadducees were trying to mock the reality of a future physical resurrection. That was the whole setting! That is what Jesus was responding to. In response, He spoke about the reality of the age to come that would be ushered in by a physical resurrection at His glorious climatic second coming.
I disagree. The Sadducees didn't believe in ANY life after death. This isn't about physical resurrection (but it IS about physical death). The Sadducees believed this life is all there is, and when you die, that is the end of you forever. They were setting up an absurd scenario to make a mockery about life after death and that it would be contrary to the Law.

In this passage the Sadducees were trying to reduce the doctrine of the resurrection of the dead to absurdity by showing that it led to bizarre consequences. What if a woman’s husband died, so she remarried a number of times, with each subsequent husband dying (!!!). At the resurrection of the dead, who would she be married to? Their implied answer was: “Surely not all of them. So the resurrection leads to unacceptable consequences, and you should really just give it up.”

Jesus gave two answers. His first answer was to say that actually at the resurrection of the dead there won’t be any marriage, so the issue won’t even arise. His second answer, however, goes back into the Hebrew Scripture in verses twenty-six and twenty-seven:

And as for the dead being raised, have you not read in the book of Moses, in the passage about the bush, how God spoke to him, saying, ‘I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob’? He is not God of the dead, but of the living. You are quite wrong.

What is particularly significant about this quote from Scripture is that Jesus is referring to an account in the book of Exodus. The Sadducees only accepted the authority of the Torah, the first five books of the Bible (often called the five books of Moses). They didn’t accept the other books of the Hebrew Scripture and they didn’t accept the oral traditions and other writings. As far as they could see, the Torah contained no references to the resurrection of the dead (unlike, for example, the book of Daniel), so they didn’t accept it. For Jesus to draw support for the resurrection from the book of Exodus, then, shows an approach that is happy to meet with opponents on common ground where possible. ~ “God of the Living” – William Tyndale and the Resurrection



Jesus used God’s relationship to Abraham to argue for the resurrection, not a conscious intermediate state.
 
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It is impossible to miss the careful comparison between “this world” and “that world” or “this age” and “that age.” Those who live in this current evil age are described as “the children of this age” but those who are depicted as being “worthy to obtain that age” to come are described exclusively as “the children of God, being the children of the resurrection” and as being “equal unto the angels.” One must be suitably qualified in order inherit the new world to come. Those that are worthy to obtain that age are not mortals and not sinners; they are rather glorified saints – who incidentally never marry or die.
As I've stated that I believe - until the New Covenant was fully consummated by Christ fulfilling all the Law, those were still in "this age" (until 70 AD). I believe the release from Sheol occurred in 70 AD - where the OC saints were released into the presence of God (and believe that's the SPIRITUAL resurrection that was hoped for - the "age to come" beginning in 70 AD). Look at this part of the passage:

Luke 20:37-28 ~ Even Moses demonstrates that the dead are raised, in the passage about the burning bush. For he calls the Lord ‘the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob.’ 38He is not the God of the dead but of the living, for to Him all are alive.”

Resurrection was the main hope of the New Testament (written in that transition time - after Jesus' resurrection.....and prior to the destruction of 70 AD)......but this is a spiritual resurrection - not physical.

God is the God of the living. As Paul put it in 1 Corinthians, chapter 15, if there is no resurrection:

1 Corinthians 15:19 ~ If we have hoped in Christ in this life only, we are of all people most to be pitied.

As Christians, we have already been raised from death to life:

Ephesians 2:4-5 ~ But God, being rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us, even when we were dead in our transgressions, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved)

We are spiritually alive. Someday we will all die physically, and when we do, we will simply move into the heavenly realm for unhindered, unending fellowship with our Lord, never to die again (that's what I believe is being expressed).
 
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His first answer was to say that actually at the resurrection of the dead there won’t be any marriage
.....and I just wanted to add to this thought. At the resurrection that Jesus was speaking of here - when the souls were first released to His presence....and the ongoing form of that resurrection - where everyone that's died in Christ since then and going forward - go to God's presence, there won't be marriage in that realm, I believe, because the purpose of marriage is so we aren't alone (going back to Genesis). We'll be in God's presence.....without sin and corruption clouding our view of Him - that's far from "alone".
 
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Luke 20:34-35 ~ And Yeshua said to them, "The sons of this age marry and are given in marriage, 35 but those who are considered worthy to attain to that age and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage
According to these verses in Luke, those who attain to that age and the resurrection from the dead don't marry. If this is true, then why do we marry? We are living in the "that age," and we have experienced the resurrection from the dead. We have been brought from spiritual death to spiritual life by the power of God. So does this statement about marriage apply to us? In the text, who is Jesus talking about? The subject is physically dead people. The woman and her seven husbands had all died physically. This "no marriage" state will also apply to us when we physically die:

Matthew 22:30 ~ "For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven.
As little as this verse tells us about the afterlife, it tells us more than any other verse that I am aware of.


Luke's account also tells us that we cannot die:

Luke 20:36 ~ for neither can they die anymore, for they are like angels, and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection.

Remember, in the context he is speaking of physically dead people that are spiritually alive. So the death that he speaks of is referring to any death--we cannot die physically or spiritually. Resurrection brings one to a state where he or she can never again experience death, which is to say that we can never be separated from God. This is true of us now, so the only thing for us to experience is physical death.
 
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Why? Because sin, sinners and the wicked are not welcome on the new glorified perfected earth that Christ introduces at the second coming. This is not the case with the Premillennial and Preterist age to come; marriage, divorce, funerals and mourning continues unabated. This passage forbids both the Premillennial and Preterist theories.
This is all a house of cards that you've built based on presumption - you've imposed these ideas on to the text.
 
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As I've stated that I believe - until the New Covenant was fully consummated by Christ fulfilling all the Law, those were still in "this age" (until 70 AD). I believe the release from Sheol occurred in 70 AD - where the OC saints were released into the presence of God (and believe that's the SPIRITUAL resurrection that was hoped for - the "age to come" beginning in 70 AD). Look at this part of the passage:

Luke 20:37-28 ~ Even Moses demonstrates that the dead are raised, in the passage about the burning bush. For he calls the Lord ‘the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob.’ 38He is not the God of the dead but of the living, for to Him all are alive.”

Resurrection was the main hope of the New Testament (written in that transition time - after Jesus' resurrection.....and prior to the destruction of 70 AD)......but this is a spiritual resurrection - not physical.

God is the God of the living. As Paul put it in 1 Corinthians, chapter 15, if there is no resurrection:

1 Corinthians 15:19 ~ If we have hoped in Christ in this life only, we are of all people most to be pitied.

As Christians, we have already been raised from death to life:

Ephesians 2:4-5 ~ But God, being rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us, even when we were dead in our transgressions, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved)

We are spiritually alive. Someday we will all die physically, and when we do, we will simply move into the heavenly realm for unhindered, unending fellowship with our Lord, never to die again (that's what I believe is being expressed).

When does the dead in Christ get their new physical bodies?
 
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This is all a house of cards that you've built based on presumption - you've imposed these ideas on to the text.

If we were living in “the age to come” then, on the authority of God’s Word, there would be no more death, marrying, crying, pain, sorrow, a curse, or evil. Yet the opposite is the truth! 2+2 = 4, not 22.

· Death is rampant today.
· Decay is everywhere.
· Marriage can be found throughout the earth in our day.
· Crying continues in “this age.”
· Pain is prevalent.
· Sorrow abounds.
· The evidence of the curse is staring us in the face all around us.
· We still live in an “evil age.”

This proves that we are still in “this age” and have yet to arrive at the perfection and glory of “the age to come” and “the new heavens and new earth.”

It seems like you are living in some type of Eastern mystic or phantom Gnostic bubble, which denies the physical reality all around us. You just have to look in the mirror at yourself to see that we have not arrived there yet. Your teachers have misled you. They are lying to you. However, you sadly bought the lie.

Why is the curse still around us? Because it has not been lifted! That will occur at the glorious and climatic coming of Jesus Christ. Then, both the redeemed and this earth will be glorified simultaneously. Don’t let your teachers to see if you, that has not happened yet.

Romans 8:16-18 explains, “The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together. For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.”

Romans 8:19-23 continues, “For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God. For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope, Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption (phthora or decay) into the glorious liberty of the children of God. For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now. And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, [to wit], the redemption of our body.”

This is looking to the termination of “the bondage of corruption” that will occur at Christ coming, where our bodies are finally redeemed.

2 Peter 3:10-13 couldn't be clearer: the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.”

The new heavens and new earth arrive when Christ comes on the day of the Lord. This will see the regeneration of this current corrupt and decaying world and the introduction of everlasting “righteousness.”

Revelation 20:11-15, 21:1-5 tells us: “And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new.”

Revelation 22:3 tells us that the new heavens and new earth arrive “there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him.”

Once again, the renewal of the earth is carefully tied to the renewal of fallen man; manifestly, as at the beginning so at the end. It is at this finishing stage that all the former consequences of the curse will be eternally removed from the elect through the glorification process. Moreover, this current earth will be simultaneously renewed by way of a fiery renewal.
 
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.....and I just wanted to add to this thought. At the resurrection that Jesus was speaking of here - when the souls were first released to His presence....and the ongoing form of that resurrection - where everyone that's died in Christ since then and going forward - go to God's presence, there won't be marriage in that realm, I believe, because the purpose of marriage is so we aren't alone (going back to Genesis). We'll be in God's presence.....without sin and corruption clouding our view of Him - that's far from "alone".

Acts 24:15 says, “there shall be a resurrection of the dead (singular), both of the just and unjust.”

Is this past or future?

Jesus taught in the parable of the wheat and tares in Matthew 13:24-30, “The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field: But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way. But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also. So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares? He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up? But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them. Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, (1) Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but (2) gather the wheat into my barn.”

Verses 37-43 continues, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man; The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one; The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world (or aion or age); and the reapers are the angels. (1) As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world (or aion or age). The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. (2) Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father.”

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John 11:21-27 records: “Then said Martha unto Jesus, Lord, if thou hadst been here, my brother had not died. But I know, that even now, whatsoever thou wilt ask of God, God will give it thee. Jesus saith unto her, Thy brother shall rise again. Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day. Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this? She saith unto him, Yea, Lord: I believe that thou art the Christ, the Son of God, which should come into the world.”

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Christ had previously taught in John 6:39-44, 54, where He said, “And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day. And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day …No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day ... Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.”

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Christ tells us in John 12:48, He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.”

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.....and I just wanted to add to this thought. At the resurrection that Jesus was speaking of here - when the souls were first released to His presence....and the ongoing form of that resurrection - where everyone that's died in Christ since then and going forward - go to God's presence, there won't be marriage in that realm, I believe, because the purpose of marriage is so we aren't alone (going back to Genesis). We'll be in God's presence.....without sin and corruption clouding our view of Him - that's far from "alone".

So "the age to come" has absolutely nothing to do with the physical realm, to earth, to this age we are experiencing now, to the natural environment we live in or literal or physical matters, but rather, it relates to the hereafter, to the heavenly realm, and the disembodied intermediate state?
 
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Acts 24:15 says, “there shall be a resurrection of the dead (singular), both of the just and unjust.”

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Acts 24:15 actually says this (and I believe Luke's timing):

There is about to be a resurrection of both the righteous and the wicked.” (Acts 24:15)​
 
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Acts 24:15 actually says this (and I believe Luke's timing):

There is about to be a resurrection of both the righteous and the wicked.” (Acts 24:15)​

Is this past or future?

What Bible version do you use?
 
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Acts 24:15 actually says this (and I believe Luke's timing):

There is about to be a resurrection of both the righteous and the wicked.” (Acts 24:15)​

What happens/happened at this resurrection? When does/did it happen/happened? How are/were the unjust resurrected?
 
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