Do You Believe the Bible is God's Word?

Andrewn said:

This avatar is cool. Who is he?

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It's an old comic-book character known as Captain Marvel. In the avatar pic, the Captain Marvel actor is Zachary Levi, who in real life is a Christian.

Honestly I don't want to sound like I order God to do something or would do it better myself but I always questioned why isnt there like literally a place where God would put his word on pillar of stone or something and translated Himself ( since you know he caused the mixed tongues himself) and just put here angel who would answer questions .

You would like avoid all the drama over years of people arguing and all the copy errors.

Place would be guarded by angels and just kill these who would want to steal or do something bad since God has foreknowledge he could just order things to be made before person commit the crime to keep this place safe , and at the time person tried just kill him with the angel or simply he would drop dead on the spot.

Andrewn said:

So, he's a good guy. Thx.

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"Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good--except God alone.

jimmyjimmy said:

Here's a simple test:

"A whip is for the horse, a bridle for the donkey, and a rod for the back of fools." (Proverbs 26:3)

Has God spoken?

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God spoke to that era having many uneducated primitive men.

Not all were needing that treatment. But, when they were? They were dumber than hillbillys that sleep with their kinfolk.

Some people were crude, dumb, and so stupid, it was the only thing that got their attention.

If you study the amoral life styles of pagan cultures back then (whom could become a slave servant) it would shock you to see what they once considered to be normal.

jimmyjimmy said:

Unless you think that The Father is to whip fools, I don't see you point.

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"Fool" in context, meant morally depraved.

Yet, to the perfect God? We in our natural way of thinking? Are all fools.


If you are truly one of His own? He will whip you deep in your soul when the Spirit begins to convert you. Religious people fail to understand the following passage.



That takes place in the believers soul! Nothing hurts more than when the Lord knows how to make us hurt in our soul. It knocks all conceit out of a man, or woman.

Religious ones that are mainly curious about Christianity do not get to see that type of discipline. Only those who have truly believed will enter into a period of great inner suffering as God surgically removes what it takes to get us humble before our self and Him.


That is why so many younger Christians seem like goof balls in how they think. The suffering is very real, and will not abate until they find honest sound teaching. Many try to bury themselves in false concepts and end up expressing a pseudo happiness that outsiders see as hypocrisy.

That is why Christians who refuse to mature in sound doctrine never quite seem real.

grace and peace...

jimmyjimmy said:

Are men any wiser now?

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You are proof...

Dont forget in the age that King Solomon wrote that it was common practice to whip your horses and slaves.

I say this because while the Bible IS God's word it was also written by man. Slavery and whatnot were allowed by God in those days (and technically still is to this day. Just because Americans dont practice slavery anymore doesnt mean that they dont have the right to keep slaves. It was more about HOW slaves were treated that was the problem. There was/is absolutely nothing wrong with owning a slave and paying them of giving them room and board...etc and treating them with respect which... was actually common in the early days of slavery.


Also we are slaves to Christ and to God. So...

Anyway, yes the bible is the word of God. Written by man and Inspired by God. There isn't a single verse in scripture that wasnt inspired by God. Otherwise why would God attack Satan with the very words of God in the desert? Why would he quote scripture? If scripture were not the word of God?

Mountainmanbob said:

The largest group of common men could have never thought up the plan as shared by God in the Bible with us.
M-Bob

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Yes, you bring very interesting point, and there are another interesting details to consider:

- From Genesis to Revelation, God did speak through those group of common men in a period near 1.600 years. The Old Testament was written by a group of 24 common men, beginning by Moses;

- The Old Testament was written by a group of 24 common men, beginning with Moses and ending with Malachi. All of them are already enthroned in heaven, by the way, in the third heaven or kingdom of God that will be revealed and will be visible on this seventh and last millennium or seventh and last day, the Lord's Day. 1Cor.15: v.24-28 and Luke 20:v.35-36, among others. Check out.

- Moses wrote the Pentanteuch, first 5 books of the Bible, Genesis was revealed to Moses by God after 2,500 years of Adam or after two and a half days. Here the Bible - the Word of God - began to be written.
The Word is God.

- Malachi was the last author of the OT; the Law and Prophets lasted until John the Baptist, about 1.500 years.

- All OT writers are already enthroned in heaven as 24 elders, by the way, the third heaven or kingdom of God that will be revealed and will established and visible on this seventh and last millennium or seventh and last Day, the Lord's Day. 1Cor.15: v.24-28, and Luke 20: v.35-36, among others. Check it out.

- The NT I believe was written by a group of 10 authors, all them are waiting the ressurrection of this seveneth and last Day, the Lord's Day, or the seventh and last millennium. JESUS said : Mat.19:v.28 -
Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.


THE EXCELENCE OF WISDOM
Proverbs 2

1 My son, if thou wilt receive my words, and hide my commandments with thee;

2 So that thou incline thine ear unto wisdom, and apply thine heart to understanding;

3 Yea, if thou criest after knowledge, and liftest up thy voice for understanding;

4 If thou seekest her as silver, and searchest for her as for hid treasures;

5 Then shalt thou understand the fear of the Lord, and find the knowledge of God.

6 For the Lord giveth wisdom: out of his mouth cometh knowledge and understanding.

7 He layeth up sound wisdom for the righteous: he is a buckler to them that walk uprightly.

8 He keepeth the paths of judgment, and preserveth the way of his saints.

9 Then shalt thou understand righteousness, and judgment, and equity; yea, every good path.

10 When wisdom entereth into thine heart, and knowledge is pleasant unto thy soul;

Susan Peabody said:

I left the church when I was 12 over this issue. I asked the pastor why women could not speak at the pulpit and why homosexuals were condemned. If we are asked to love our neighbor doesn't that include those of other faiths and gender-related issues. I still have not resolved this issue enough to accept every word of the Bible. I do accept what Jesus said, but not Paul. He, to me, is outdated. This is why I communicate directly with the Holy Spirit. That would have gotten me burned at the stake in the middle ages.

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Men and women have different roles designed by God. Also homosexuals arent condemned, homosexuality is. We all want to see them repent and come to Christ.

“Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake. And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭24:9-10‬ ‭
Jesus words are offensive, if God is perfect in every way and you think he is wrong about his marriage design, its not him thats flawed its us.

and for your argument about Paul(which you cant pick and choose whose outdated and whose not) anyway:
“All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:”
‭‭2 Timothy‬ ‭3:16‬ ‭

dqhall said:

Beating someone’s back with a rod is judging the person. A judgement against a person is a fine or a punishment.

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Well I mean, look at the role parents are supposed to play in raising children. Surely they have the right to discipline (judge according to you) their children, right?

Susan Peabody said:

I left the church when I was 12 over this issue. I asked the pastor why women could not speak at the pulpit and why homosexuals were condemned. If we are asked to love our neighbor doesn't that include those of other faiths and gender-related issues.

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It seems that the spirit of deception is confusing you, Susan.
Keep in mind that according to Scripture we are to love sinners, but not the sin. Loving the sinners does not consist in tolerating and admitting the sins they commit, understand?

Susan Peabody said:

I still have not resolved this issue enough to accept every word of the Bible. I do accept what Jesus said, but not Paul. He, to me, is outdated. This is why I communicate directly with the Holy Spirit. That would have gotten me burned at the stake in the middle ages.

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You said that accept what JESUS said. Remember that JESUS said unto the adulerous woman: go, and sin no more.

James the Apostle wrote: 4:v.3-4&7
3 Ye ask, and receive not, because ye ask amiss, that ye may consume it upon your lusts.
4 Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.
7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the Devil, and he will flee from you.

1John 5:v.14-17 & 19-21
14 And this is the confidence that we have in him, that, if we ask any thing according to his will, he heareth us:
15 And if we know that he hear us, whatsoever we ask, we know that we have the petitions that we desired of him.

16 If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it.
17 All unrighteousness is sin: and there is a sin not unto death.

19 And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness.
20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.
21 Little children, keep yourselves from idols. Amen.

God bless

jimmyjimmy said:

Here's a simple test:

"A whip is for the horse, a bridle for the donkey, and a rod for the back of fools." (Proverbs 26:3)

Has God spoken?

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Its God’s word, but its purpose is to be about his revelation to man. There are many writers and they wrote under the inspiration of God. They where not mind controlled as if visions where auto playing in their head as they where writing, there was no voices or spirits orally dictating what to right. They still implied their own views (which was based on the knowledge of the ancient world), literary styles, and target audiences. Therefore the books/teachings in the Bible should not be mistaken as a book of factual knowledge. These 1,200+ pages is about Jesus. Its not a portfolio.

Therefore it isnt the only source of truth. You can see God’s word through out the universe, as a designer.. because everything is operated through a language known as numbers/math. This too can be seen as God’s word.

jimmyjimmy said:

Are men any wiser now?

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Men who know God, are. Men who only know "about" God, are not.

jimmyjimmy said:

Here's a simple test:

"A whip is for the horse, a bridle for the donkey, and a rod for the back of fools." (Proverbs 26:3)

Has God spoken?

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it's God's word without regard to context or genre.

jimmyjimmy said:

Here's a simple test:

"A whip is for the horse, a bridle for the donkey, and a rod for the back of fools." (Proverbs 26:3)

Has God spoken?

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The word of God are the words that God has spoken. Proverbs is good advice that is generally true.