Poll: White evangelicals distinct on abortion, LGBT policy

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White evangelical Protestants stand noticeably apart from other religious people on how the government should act on two of the most politically divisive issues at play in the 2020 presidential election, according to a new poll of Americans from various faith backgrounds.

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Thanks for sharing but that was an incredibly poorly written article. No offense to you is intended.
Lol! I can only offer what’s out there as a springboard for discussion or info. :)
 
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Lol! I can only offer what’s out there as a springboard for discussion or info. :)
Quite true. And I hope you keep doing it too. Which is why I'm trying to stay in your good books. :D

Honestly, I'm surprised the evangelical numbers are as good as they are. They're weak personally, spiritually and institutionally. They have few or no unbreakable values so I'm surprised even at those relatively tepid numbers.
 
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White evangelical Protestants stand noticeably apart from other religious people on how the government should act on two of the most politically divisive issues at play in the 2020 presidential election, according to a new poll of Americans from various faith backgrounds.

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Poll: White evangelicals distinct on abortion, LGBT policy

Too bad they can't just mind their own business. As far as Abortion... Unless you can have one, shut up. As to the LGBT folk? I stay out of it, though I do wonder about that Mayor Buttigieg? Some think I'm part of all that, but no.
 
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Too bad they can't just mind their own business. As far as Abortion... Unless you can have one, shut up. As to the LGBT folk? I stay out of it, though I do wonder about that Mayor Buttigieg? Some think I'm part of all that, but no.
My mother has several and I nursed her through each one as a kid. It left quite the impression.
 
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White evangelical Protestants stand noticeably apart from other religious people on how the government should act on two of the most politically divisive issues at play in the 2020 presidential election, according to a new poll of Americans from various faith backgrounds.

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It's a small world moment; I know one of the individuals quoted in the article. A relative of a former classmate. Someone i haven't seen nor thought of in over 35 years.

God bless you all!
 
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It's a small world moment; I know one of the individuals quoted in the article. A relative of a former classmate. Someone i haven't seen nor thought of in over 35 years.

God bless you all!
Small world indeed!
 
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Oh gee... never thought of that. What’s those new fangled Bible Concordances and such??


I’ll get on it right away. But I’m a convert. I read the Bible and continue to do so as a Catholic. But thanks anyway!

I have a very old "Strong's Concordance". I wonder if it is any good?
 
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Psst. My Church wrote the New Testament.

You're welcome.

This is just my own feeling. Do as you wish.

I generally rely on the OT, but as history, not a rule book. Though I struggle with eating pork, craven images and Idol worship. Yes, there is the permission in the NT about Pork, but I just feel better Not. Another place in the NT that is troubling to me is 1 Cor. 11:5. Sure that is just for praying, but then what about the admonishment to pray ceaselessly?

In my opinion, the 'angel' on top of Mormon Temples is idol worship. Mormonism and I had a close approach.
 
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This is just my own feeling. Do as you wish.

I generally rely on the OT, but as history, not a rule book. Though I struggle with eating pork, craven images and Idol worship. Yes, there is the permission in the NT about Pork, but I just feel better Not. Another place in the NT that is troubling to me is 1 Cor. 11:5. Sure that is just for praying, but then what about the admonishment to pray ceaselessly?

In my opinion, the 'angel' on top of Mormon Temples is idol worship. Mormonism and I had a close approach.
Uh, okay?
 
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Lol! I can only offer what’s out there as a springboard for discussion or info. :)

I apologize if what I said earlier seemed like a personal affront. It truly wasn't. One of my pet peeves is that many people today are becoming so unable to think for themselves. Before they can take any stand for any thing they have to make sure that they will be "liked" or part of a popular consensus. This is becoming more and more prevalent and is forming a world-wide society easy to manipulate and control. If one is familiar with Biblical prophecy they can see how such a world-wide social dependency is going to be ultimately used and it is not for good, at all.

We Christians must be grounded strongly NOT in any general consensus but in God's Word. We who truly want to be genuine followers of Jesus are becoming increasingly a minority in this world. We, as Jesus promised, will be hated and rejected for merely being followers of Jesus. We must be willing to take a stand grounded in things which have no connection with a societal general consensus. We must be confident that what we believe comes from the mouth of God to stand as Noah did in the face of mockers. The Holy Scriptures are "God breathed" as we are informed in 2 Tim 3:16: "16 All scripture is inspired by God anda]">[a] profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness,b]">[b] 17 that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work." RSVCE (Bible Gateway passage: 2 Timothy 3:16-17 - Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition) Like the link I just shared there are an innumerable amount of Bible study tool sites available online. Utilizing prudence in one's source selection, one can be so well-informed about what God really says. One just has to exercise their dedication and commitment to Jesus/God and seek God for the answers in His Word and not seek other's opinions. Other's opinions and thoughts are USELESS against satan. What did Jesus do when satan tempted Him?

Jesus cited God's Word not any body else's, EVERY time He was tempted and EVERY time He defeated satan with the POWER of God's Word, the Holy Scriptures. Jesus did not engage in debate with God-like reasoning and logic and intelligence, though He could have victoriously. Rather, He set an example which WE could follow and effectively implement to defeat satan. The power within the Holy Scriptures is MIGHTY. In Ephes we are commanded to stand against satan armored with: helmet/Salvation, breastplate/Righteousness, battle belt/Truth, shield/Faith, and sandals/preparation or equipment of the Gospel of Peace and exclusively and actively ARMED with the sword/the SPIRIT "which is the Word of God", "10 Finally, be strong in the Lord and in the strength of his might. 11 Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. 12 For we are not contending against flesh and blood, but against the principalities, against the powers, against the world rulers of this present darkness, against the spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places. 13 Therefore take the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. 14 Stand therefore, having girded your loins with truth, and having put on the breastplate of righteousness, 15 and having shod your feet with the equipment of the gospel of peace; 16 above all taking the shield of faith, with which you can quench all the flaming darts of the evil one. 17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God. " RSVCE (Bible Gateway passage: Ephesians 6:10-17 - Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition) The power of the holy Scriptures is touched on here, "12 For the word of God is living and active, sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing to the division of soul and spirit, of joints and marrow, and discerning the thoughts and intentions of the heart" and also, here, "3 For though we live in the world we are not carrying on a worldly war, 4 for the weapons of our warfare are not worldly but have divine power to destroy strongholds. 5 We destroy arguments and every proud obstacle to the knowledge of God," RSVCE (Bible Gateway passage: Hebrews 4:3-15 - Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition) and (Bible Gateway passage: 2 Corinthians 10:1-12 - Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition)

I apologize for not communicating my thoughts in a way which showed that what I said was not an attempt to personally affront you but rather a pet peeve I have for many who just want the answers given to them, whatever they may, as long as they are popular or "liked."
 
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I apologize if what I said earlier seemed like a personal affront. It truly wasn't. One of my pet peeves is that many people today are becoming so unable to think for themselves. Before they can take any stand for any thing they have to make sure that they will be "liked" or part of a popular consensus. This is becoming more and more prevalent and is forming a world-wide society easy to manipulate and control. If one is familiar with Biblical prophecy they can see how such a world-wide social dependency is going to be ultimately used and it is not for good, at all.

We Christians must be grounded strongly NOT in any general consensus but in God's Word. We who truly want to be genuine followers of Jesus are becoming increasingly a minority in this world. We, as Jesus promised, will be hated and rejected for merely being followers of Jesus. We must be willing to take a stand grounded in things which have no connection with a societal general consensus. We must be confident that what we believe comes from the mouth of God to stand as Noah did in the face of mockers. The Holy Scriptures are "God breathed" as we are informed in 2 Tim 3:16:"16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, 17 so that the servant of God [a] may be thoroughly equipped for every good work." (Bible Gateway passage: 2 Timothy 3:16-17 - New International Version) Like the link I just shared there are an innumerable amount of Bible study tool sites available online. Utilizing prudence in one's source selection, one can be so well-informed about what God really says. One just has to exercise their dedication and commitment to Jesus/God and seek God for the answers in His Word and not seek other's opinions. Other's opinions and thoughts are USELESS against satan. What did Jesus do when satan tempted Him? Jesus cited God's Word not any body else's, EVERY time.

I apologize for not communicating my thoughts in a way which showed that what I said was not an attempt to personally affront you but rather a pet peeve I have for many who just want the answers given to them, whatever they may, as long as they are popular or "liked."
I’m not to particularly worried about being popular or liked on bulletin boards. :)
 
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I'm not sure how to phrase it politely, but I thought most people knew that Evangelicalism is more outwardly politically-focused than most other forms of Christianity, so these numbers hardly surprise me. Perhaps it's due to what post #4 called their weakness in other areas...a kind of politically conservative Christian 'virtue signalling', if you will. If you can't personally keep up with the whole "Don't cheat on your spouse, don't be a drunk, don't be abusive" code of conduct that most people (Evangelical or not) would call 'being a decent person', but still want to think of yourself as being morally superior and virtuous, then perhaps you answer opinion polls in this manner. Which isn't to say that these aren't also sincerely-held convictions, too. I mean, I don't see why both can't be operating at the same time. "I feel this way already, and it also makes me feel better to see how much bigger my group's percentage is than these others'. Clearly we are the true Christians, even if our numbers are tanking and we'll be dead or irrelevant in another generation because our age cohort is pushing 70+ years old and most of our children and grandchildren are 'nones' or worse."

Just perhaps.
 
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I’m not to particularly worried about being popular or liked on bulletin boards. :)

Is this you carrying the ethos of the "Abolish ratings" thread over into other threads? I'm on to you! :p
 
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I’m not to particularly worried about being popular or liked on bulletin boards. :)
That is good. Social media of any type can become a box for our thoughts and behavior and potentially isolate us from the Word of God. Even on this site I have found many who abstain from using/citing the Word of God to substantiate their position but fortunately these threads are not designed to exclude the Word of God and it can be entered into purvey for consideration, however it may be repudiated.
 
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Thanks for sharing but that was an incredibly poorly written article. No offense to you is intended.
I totally agree. As I have said elsewhere on this site polls are like clothing. All one has to do is shop for one which suits them or agrees with their opinion as polls can be designed/worded in a way to cause the "pollee" to say whatever the "poller" wants them to say. It is just a game with grammar and tactful vocabulary and then targeting/polling exclusively/majorly to groups one knows how they will respond. Polls mean nothing. I believe that on a CHRISTIAN site the fundamentally valid substantiation of one's position or source of enlightenment is the Christian "Handbook" known as the Bible, God's Inspired Word to us.

The article was obviously and precariously steeped in prejudice and ignorance.
 
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