Inspiration of the english translations of the Bible

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Most scholars have what is called a view that is called "verbal plenary inspiration." At least the most reputable ones do anyway. Basically every dot, or grammar mark is there by divine inspiration. Granted grammar markings were added roughly a thousand years later. But you get the point. And further more what is inspired is the original autographs in hebrew, greek and parts of aramaic. English translations have numerous errors and that is why I have never heard of a scholar even claiming remotely that the english translations are inspired. Yet something must be. God's hand must have been on the Bible, because it survived all these years. The Bible is getting more and more accurate in english. Well as long as they use the proper manuscripts (but more on that later). Well anyway, there was something that popped up in social media this week, and I did some digging and it's sort of interesting. It supports at least a partial inspiration of an english translation (the KJV). I am not sure if this works with any other translation, but we can talk about that here. Anyway I will post the initial picture so you can read it. Notice that the original Bible did not have verse markings, or chapter markings, or maybe even the same book order. So this is sort of a unique version of your typical inspiration argument. This is at least a partial evidence of a partial inspiration behind the KJV. Now don't get me wrong, the KJV has numerous errors and had numerous revisions. But the point is that God's hand was on this translation, and I believe as I will get into later, there is reason for that. I actually use the NKJV, which is heresy to the KJV onlyist. So please don't say I am KJV only. But I think it's interesting this only works on the KJV bible, and there are books out that say that all other modern translations are based on forged manuscripts.

Here is a link for more info on the forgery, as well as an open thread to discuss it:
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But I didn't want to ruffle feathers about the forgery, so forget I mentioned it. what I want to focus on is that it appears the Holy Spirit endorsed at least one english translation (I am not saying it's perfect, by any means, but that the project itself was endorsed).

Here is the image that I want to submit as evidence:

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Here is a review of the above evidences, that mention this only occurs in the KJV Bible: possibly the NKJV too. The implications of this study are staggering, is God endorsing the chapter and verse divisions of the scriptures? If so how? I mean many many greek scholars have found errors in verse and chapter divisions. So again it's not God saying this english work is perfect. But that God is saying, I just want you to know I am here, I see your work in trying to preserve my word and I am with you, I endorse your effort.

Psalm 117 the Shortest Psalm in the Bible – This 'n That


posts regarding sinaiticus fraud are considered off topic for this thread as there are other threads open for that discussion.

An edit of the OP after fact checking it...

Me and an external person on this forum repeated this test numerous times, we concluded that the center chapter of the KJV is psalm 117, so this alleged "proof" of inspiration for the KJV version does not work out the way I thought. That is why we need to be open minded at all times, I am currently debating someone on the sinaiticus forgery. Which I believe bring many photographs of evidence that the sinaiticus was "too white' in color to be a 4th century document, and there is evidence of tampering. The worm holes on one page did not continue through the next page, the water stains again would be on one page but not leaked through to next page, it looked "assembled, not written." Or written on previously semi aged material, and they didn't keep it in it's original state. For example found a a few hundred year old manuscript that was blank in a jar in qumran, picked out the best pages in random order, and copied a new version of the Bible on it, possibly for money (in which it would be very rare and worth millions), or to prove a point, or funded by vatican. I believe the forger made it just to prove He could, I don't think he fathomed that the vatican would in turn take it, set up a fake "finding and discovery" off it. Etc. All this is mentioned in excruciating detail in the book. with photographs, quotes from external eye witnesses and other source materials, that must be examined. Anyway, I fact checked the original image and will repost it here:

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But the point is that God's hand was on this translation

God uses failible people to promote Christianity.
He accepts our efforts and uses them to save souls.

The same is true of the bible.
He used Witcliffes hand written translation of the latin vulgate to challenge and sve people in england.
He also has used hand copied parts of the bible durring the comunist regieme etc etc

It is the message not the medium that is important.
 
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God uses failible people to promote Christianity.
He accepts our efforts and uses them to save souls.

The same is true of the bible.
He used Witcliffes hand written translation of the latin vulgate to challenge and sve people in england.
He also has used hand copied parts of the bible durring the comunist regieme etc etc

It is the message not the medium that is important.
YES! Just think before Moses wrote the first five books, the only thing inspired was the tales that were spoken to each other. Then when God wrote it down in the pentetuch He recollected all the details and recalled it perfectly to allow moses to write a perfect first five books of the Bible, thousands of years later.
 
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Me and an external person on this forum repeated this test numerous times, we concluded that the center chapter of the KJV is psalm 117, so this alleged "proof" of inspiration for the KJV version does not work out the way I thought. That is why we need to be open minded at all times, I am currently debating someone on the sinaiticus forgery. Which I believe bring many photographs of evidence that the sinaiticus was "too white' in color to be a 4th century document, and there is evidence of tampering. The worm holes on one page did not continue through the next page, the water stains again would be on one page but not leaked through to next page, it looked "assembled, not written." Or written on previously semi aged material, and they didn't keep it in it's original state. For example found a a few hundred year old manuscript that was blank in a jar in qumran, picked out the best pages in random order, and copied a new version of the Bible on it, possibly for money (in which it would be very rare and worth millions), or to prove a point, or funded by vatican. I believe the forger made it just to prove He could, I don't think he fathomed that the vatican would in turn take it, set up a fake "finding and discovery" off it. Etc. All this is mentioned in excruciating detail in the book. with photographs, quotes from external eye witnesses and other source materials, that must be examined. Anyway, I fact checked the original image and will repost it here:

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To what purpose are you doing this?
Just what do you worship, a particular translation of the Bible or Jesus?
I can see how you would think that. But no I don't worship a translation. I am continually in search for even better majority text translations. KJV only don't do that
 
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