Can Democrats Turn On the Light?

Bobber · Dec 22, 2019

As I scan over most of the title threads they all seem to have to do with President Trump is not so nice a guy or words to that effect. Will that be a winning strategy for the Democratic politicians in 2020 always to be banging that drum, NEVER really getting down to the substance about just why MOST would re-elect Trump? I'm not confident they will. Taking delight in degrading another human being can be a most addicting practise but a practise I think misses the bigger picture which is you just can't curse the darkness (or what you consider such to be) you've got to TURN ON THE LIGHT! How does one do that?

Maybe by becoming insightful and understanding just why the greatest number of people vote for Trump? Isn't it what he says it is? Because of things like trade, and bringing the jobs back and the American people not willing to take no for an answer that there aren't solutions to bring about that reality?

Just how are democratic politicians turning on the light to put forward a positive proposal and game plan that not only appeals to the coastal cities but also one that has a broad appeal nation wide? President Obama has a good slogan one of which I'm not sure he put forth the necessary energy to support it's high idea that is ....No more red state, blue states but ONE United States of America!!

Much of America is asking the Democrats....what message do you have for us? And just why is it we shouldn't give Trump our full support in light of a great soaring economy and other things improved and promises kept. Will it be just curse the darkness? Or rather TURN ON THE LIGHT?

tulc · Dec 22, 2019

Bobber said:
(snip) Taking delight in degrading another human being can be a most addicting practise (snip)

uhmmm...you do realize that this sentence utterly sums up President Trumps 2016 campaign strategy, right? It won him the White House. Politicians tend to not argue with things that work.
tulc(which would explain why the Republicans Party leaders have so wholeheartedly embraced him...well, until they don't)

Bobber · Dec 22, 2019

tulc said:
uhmmm...you do realize that this sentence utterly sums up President Trumps 2016 campaign strategy, right? It won him the White House. Politicians tend to not argue with things that work.
tulc(which would explain why the Republicans Party leaders have so wholeheartedly embraced him...well, until they don't)

Granted Trump didn't speak too well of those who opposed him. Statements like drain the swamp are fun and cute but is that the thing that won him the Presidency? Or did it really come down to policy? In the bigger picture of things I'd say it was policies and exactly what he was promising. So what are the democratic politician's policies?

Go Braves · Dec 22, 2019

Oh I was expecting this to tie into Donald's inane rants about energy-efficient lightbulbs on account of how he's vain - in his own words - and doesn't like how they make him look orange. Lol. He just ranted about lightbulbs again at his rally on the day he got impeached. He also made crazy, clueless claims about dishwashers, and again about showers and toilets.

Shucks, was going to show a video from that rally with those comments but can't on account of how he cussed.

Trump's literal statements about lightbulbs definitely make me feel more confident about well, pretty much every candidate running against him being better able to turn the lights on.

Bobber · Dec 22, 2019

Go Braves said:
Trump's literal statements about lightbulbs definitely make me feel more confident about well, pretty much every candidate running against him being better able to turn the lights on.

I'd still suggest they haven't found the switch yet.

tulc · Dec 22, 2019

Bobber said:
Granted Trump didn't speak too well of those who opposed him. Statements like drain the swamp are fun and cute but is that the thing that won him the Presidency?

Oh yeah, no doubt in my mind. The Republicans embraced/elected the head birther. It didn't matter he had no idea how to do the job. He told them exactly what they wanted to hear, blew the right dog whistles and there he was, the d-list serial adulterer reality tv show host became President.

Or did it really come down to policy?

What policies? He didn't have any. He had slogans that his supporters could embrace and believe they meant...literally anything they wanted to believe. :wave:

In the bigger picture of things I'd say it was policies and exactly what he was promising.

The only "bigger picture" was this:

So what are the democratic politician's policies?

Hopefully: "don't have to pay off that inappropriate content star to keep quiet" Because THAT didn't seem to work to well. :sorry:

tulc(is finishing his last cup of coffee) :sigh:

Bobber · Dec 22, 2019

tulc said:
Oh yeah, no doubt in my mind. The Republicans embraced/elected the head birther.

You really think what was it...63 million Americans voted for Trump because he felt Obama wasn't an American citizen? You don't think there wasn't a large list of promises he made way beyond that that got their attention?

It didn't matter he had no idea how to do the job.

I'm sure he needed to brush up on some certain things but Americans felt he did have the Presidential type of vision that spoke to them he knew how to do the job. Knowing how to do the job can be translated as what they want the President to do. Many Americans felt he KNEW how to do the job because the way he was going to do the job is WHAT THEY WANTED. (as it came to his basic policies)

Nithavela · Dec 22, 2019

Democrats have no message beyond "Trump is a meanie".

MorkandMindy · Dec 22, 2019

Nithavela said:
Democrats have no message beyond "Trump is a meanie".

I was a supporter of the Democratic Party but the way they got rid of all the good candidates was shocking, and yes, all they and Hillary could say was 'Trump is a meanie'. He has handled a lot of tricky situations very well so far but I think he may have just hit his use by date, whether due to age or all the hassle he's been given recently.

There are gems here and there even in politics. Tulsi Gabbard has shown intelligence and integrity beyond pretty well everyone else, and the final accolade is the DNC has taken steps to kick her out of the race, because they know she will win and worst of all she would probably be a good President. So I'm going to find out everything I can about her and very likely switch sides and support her.

Nithavela · Dec 22, 2019

MorkandMindy said:
I was a supporter of the Democratic Party but the way they got rid of all the good candidates was shocking, and yes, all they and Hillary could say was 'Trump is a meanie'. He has handled a lot of tricky situations very well so far but I think he may have just hit his use by date, whether due to age or all the hassle he's been given recently.

There are gems here and there even in politics. Tulsi Gabbard has shown intelligence and integrity beyond pretty well everyone else, and the final accolade is the DNC has taken steps to kick her out of the race, because they know she will win and worst of all she would probably be a good President. So I'm going to find out everything I can about her and very likely switch sides and support her.

I don't think Trump will loose the election next year. Then again, I didn't think he'd win the last one, so what do I know?

I only know that I don't know what the democrats are offering, except "free stuff for our supporters", which the republicans are offering too.

KCfromNC · Dec 22, 2019

Nithavela said:
Democrats have no message beyond "Trump is a meanie".

I'm not sure, their "We don't want to take away your healthcare" message does seem to be resonating.

Nithavela · Dec 22, 2019

KCfromNC said:
I'm not sure, their "We don't want to take away your healthcare" message does seem to be resonating.

That's not a message, though. It's just something they won't do. They also don't want to install microchips into everyones underwear, but I would hardly call that compelling.

People vote because of what partys will do, not what they won't do.

TLK Valentine · Dec 22, 2019

Bobber said:
As I scan over most of the title threads they all seem to have to do with President Trump is not so nice a guy or words to that effect. Will that be a winning strategy for the Democratic politicians in 2020 always to be banging that drum, NEVER really getting down to the substance about just why MOST would re-elect Trump? I'm not confident they will. Taking delight in degrading another human being can be a most addicting practise but a practise I think misses the bigger picture which is you just can't curse the darkness (or what you consider such to be) you've got to TURN ON THE LIGHT! How does one do that?

Maybe by becoming insightful and understanding just why the greatest number of people vote for Trump? Isn't it what he says it is? Because of things like trade, and bringing the jobs back and the American people not willing to take no for an answer that there aren't solutions to bring about that reality?

Just how are democratic politicians turning on the light to put forward a positive proposal and game plan that not only appeals to the coastal cities but also one that has a broad appeal nation wide? President Obama has a good slogan one of which I'm not sure he put forth the necessary energy to support it's high idea that is ....No more red state, blue states but ONE United States of America!!

Much of America is asking the Democrats....what message do you have for us? And just why is it we shouldn't give Trump our full support in light of a great soaring economy and other things improved and promises kept. Will it be just curse the darkness? Or rather TURN ON THE LIGHT?

To fix a broken light, one must first remove the dim bulb.

KCfromNC · Dec 22, 2019

Nithavela said:
That's not a message, though. It's just something they won't do. They also don't want to install microchips into everyones underwear, but I would hardly call that compelling.

Given that the other party is campaigning on doing the opposite in only one of these two cases, I'm not sure I buy the comparison.

That is, "not taking away health care" only becomes a useful message when one's opponent is promising to take it away. Such as the case now.

Nithavela · Dec 22, 2019

KCfromNC said:
Given that the other party is campaigning on doing the opposite in only one of these two cases, I'm not sure I buy the comparison.

That is, "not taking away health care" only becomes a useful message when one's opponent is promising to take it away. Such as the case now.

They already campaigned on that issue and it got them elected in all houses. I don't think that will be different this time.

KCfromNC · Dec 22, 2019

Nithavela said:
They already campaigned on that issue and it got them elected in all houses. I don't think that will be different this time.

The still don't control the Senate.

Then again, a lot of the voters in states which are up for grabs don't seem to care about voting against their own best interests, so who knows?

Nithavela · Dec 22, 2019

KCfromNC said:
The still don't control the Senate.

Then again, a lot of the voters in states which are up for grabs don't seem to care about voting against their own best interests, so who knows?

I think that most people prefer to vote against the interests of people they dislike.

Bobber · Dec 22, 2019

TLK Valentine said:
To fix a broken light, one must first remove the dim bulb.

Do democratic politicians really believe Trump is dim though? If they did why would they be so worried he'll win the next election? What's that which one Democratic politician said? If we don't impeach him he'll win again?

Bobber · Dec 22, 2019

MorkandMindy said:
There are gems here and there even in politics. Tulsi Gabbard has shown intelligence and integrity beyond pretty well everyone else, and the final accolade is the DNC has taken steps to kick her out of the race, because they know she will win and worst of all she would probably be a good President. So I'm going to find out everything I can about her and very likely switch sides and support her.

I find it strange her own party isn't recognizing that she's the voice of the centre that they claim to be looking for.

TLK Valentine · Dec 22, 2019

Bobber said:
Do democratic politicians really believe Trump is dim though?

Not all of them, I'm sure -- but it is a popular sentiment among the literate ones with good hearing.

If they did why would they be so worried he'll win the next election?

Because sadly, political elections aren't based on merit, but on the perception of merit.

What's that which one Democratic politician said? If we don't impeach him he'll win again?

You'll have to take that up with him or her... I don't speak for all Democrats.

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