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What I am pointing out is the importance of context and something apply specifically to a particular group of people in a particular time frame and we just cannot assume it applies to us in our time. The same may be true of women wearing head covers.

As a female, I do believe it is important to have your own conviction when it comes to 1 Corinthians 11 and the topic of ‘head coverings.’ To disregard it with the simple notion that it is from a different “cultural” time would be unwise and a disservice to the Word of God – as Senior Pastor has aptly pointed out.

As followers of Christ, we are beckoned and urged to delve deeper into the Word and, with the help of the Holy Spirit, seek out the truth of the Scriptures.

The first question I have to ask is why would the topic of head coverings cause such a stir and have such a sting to it that people would rather justify not wearing head coverings than “just do it” out of obedience? There must be more at play than merely putting a cloth over my head and feeling a bit awkward about it at first. Why does it stir such a vehement reaction?

It must be inspired.

Whenever we are confronted with the truth, our response will either be “for” or “against”. There is never a “middle road” when it comes to the Word of God – it divides, cuts, and shines. (Heb. 4:12,13).

Look at Stephen’s address to the Jewish Council: despite him being a man “full of faith and power” where they “were not able to resist the wisdom and Spirit by which he spoke,” (Acts 6) when he spoke the truth of Christ to them, they gnashed at him with their teeth as they were cut to the heart. (Acts 7:54)

The Word says that “Christ is a stone of stumbling and a rock of offense.” (1 Pet, 2:8). And from John 1, we can also safely say that Christ is the very Word of God. So we are to be very careful when going about the Word that we do not use it as a source of debate or treat it as information to be discussed rather than the very oracles of God. (1 Tim. 1:6-7)

So back to head coverings… What if it’s more than an obscure passage of Scripture? What if it is a key to unlocking the correct order of the Church of Jesus Christ? I sincerely believe that it very much is the case. How can I say that? Because in essence, 1 Corinthians 11 is not discussing the issue of head coverings as much as the issue of GLORY.

Let’s read it again:

But I want you to know that the HEAD of every MAN is CHRIST,

and the HEAD of WOMAN is MAN,

and the HEAD of CHRIST is GOD.

Every MAN praying or prophesying, having his head covered dishonors his HEAD. [who is his head but Christ?]

But every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head [man]…

For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and GLORY of GOD; but woman is the GLORY of MAN.

If you ask me, this is the real bone of contention and, as a female, the bitter pill to swallow. In immaturity, some women may be offended by this verse. To them, it might imply that as a female we are inferior to a man and I am sure they hate that. It might bring out the ‘gnashing of teeth’ reaction inside of them! I've been told by some women that letting my fiance make the final decisions was letting him treat me as a "floor mat," how ridiculous!

As I’ve grown up in the Lord, I’ve come to understand that it is not about superiority/inferiority, but the correct order of things, as Paul clearly goes on to say: that man is not from woman, but woman from man… and for this reason the woman ought to have a SYMBOL of authority on her head, because of the angels.

I don’t pretend to understand what Paul means by “because of the angels.” It still remains a mystery to me.

The picture that I want to paint you is very visual. If the woman is the glory of man, and you cover her head, are you covering her, or are you covering her glory, which is the glory of MAN?... And with the man’s head uncovered, he is the glory of CHRIST… so when a woman covers her head in an assembly, she’s covering, not herself, but the glory of MAN so that the men with their HEAD [Christ!] UNCOVERED, display the GLORY OF CHRIST! WOW!


So if the angels have visited the assembly as 1 Corinthians 11 and 1 Peter 2 suggest, as spiritual beings, whose glory do they see? The glory of man looming bright, or the glory of CHRIST pervading the sanctuary? Perhaps that’s what it means by “for the sake of the angels?” When we take it into consideration, we are catapulted from the natural to the spiritual realm; we’re no longer talking about what it looks and feels like in the natural, but what the implications are in the spiritual realm, which is where the angels reside. I guess when you look at it like that, it very much so affects the angels! Whose glory are we emanating in the spiritual realm?

Is it a shameful thing that as I woman, I am the glory of man? Absolutely not!!

If the Glory of man is Christ, how can I be ashamed of being someone’s glory, whose very own glory is Christ?! Christ, being the glory of God, is called in Hebrews 1, the “the BRIGHTNESS of His GLORY and the EXPRESS IMAGE of His PERSON. As a woman, according to 1 Corinthians 11, I am the very expression of man – his helpmeet, like I was created to be. It’s not about covering my head; it’s about whose glory I want to be revealed when I’m in God’s presence – Man’s glory or Christ’s?

It’s my conviction to start wearing head coverings now and I think it will release me to be free in prayer and in worship; I will wear it as a symbol of authority to remind myself that as a woman, I am submitted to man, who is submitted to Christ, and I am safe. For all intents and purposes, I am covered… what freedom I think I will find under that covering!!
 
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As a female, I do believe it is important to have your own conviction when it comes to 1 Corinthians 11 and the topic of ‘head coverings.’ To disregard it with the simple notion that it is from a different “cultural” time would be unwise and a disservice to the Word of God – as Senior Pastor has aptly pointed out.

As followers of Christ, we are beckoned and urged to delve deeper into the Word and, with the help of the Holy Spirit, seek out the truth of the Scriptures.

The first question I have to ask is why would the topic of head coverings cause such a stir and have such a sting to it that people would rather justify not wearing head coverings than “just do it” out of obedience? There must be more at play than merely putting a cloth over my head and feeling a bit awkward about it at first. Why does it stir such a vehement reaction?

It must be inspired.

Whenever we are confronted with the truth, our response will either be “for” or “against”. There is never a “middle road” when it comes to the Word of God – it divides, cuts, and shines. (Heb. 4:12,13).

Look at Stephen’s address to the Jewish Council: despite him being a man “full of faith and power” where they “were not able to resist the wisdom and Spirit by which he spoke,” (Acts 6) when he spoke the truth of Christ to them, they gnashed at him with their teeth as they were cut to the heart. (Acts 7:54)

The Word says that “Christ is a stone of stumbling and a rock of offense.” (1 Pet, 2:8). And from John 1, we can also safely say that Christ is the very Word of God. So we are to be very careful when going about the Word that we do not use it as a source of debate or treat it as information to be discussed rather than the very oracles of God. (1 Tim. 1:6-7)

So back to head coverings… What if it’s more than an obscure passage of Scripture? What if it is a key to unlocking the correct order of the Church of Jesus Christ? I sincerely believe that it very much is the case. How can I say that? Because in essence, 1 Corinthians 11 is not discussing the issue of head coverings as much as the issue of GLORY.

Let’s read it again:

But I want you to know that the HEAD of every MAN is CHRIST,

and the HEAD of WOMAN is MAN,

and the HEAD of CHRIST is GOD.

Every MAN praying or prophesying, having his head covered dishonors his HEAD. [who is his head but Christ?]

But every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head [man]…

For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and GLORY of GOD; but woman is the GLORY of MAN.

If you ask me, this is the real bone of contention and, as a female, the bitter pill to swallow. In immaturity, some women may be offended by this verse. To them, it might imply that as a female we are inferior to a man and I am sure they hate that. It might bring out the ‘gnashing of teeth’ reaction inside of them! I've been told by some women that letting my fiance make the final decisions was letting him treat me as a "floor mat," how ridiculous!

As I’ve grown up in the Lord, I’ve come to understand that it is not about superiority/inferiority, but the correct order of things, as Paul clearly goes on to say: that man is not from woman, but woman from man… and for this reason the woman ought to have a SYMBOL of authority on her head, because of the angels.

I don’t pretend to understand what Paul means by “because of the angels.” It still remains a mystery to me.

The picture that I want to paint you is very visual. If the woman is the glory of man, and you cover her head, are you covering her, or are you covering her glory, which is the glory of MAN?... And with the man’s head uncovered, he is the glory of CHRIST… so when a woman covers her head in an assembly, she’s covering, not herself, but the glory of MAN so that the men with their HEAD [Christ!] UNCOVERED, display the GLORY OF CHRIST! WOW!


So if the angels have visited the assembly as 1 Corinthians 11 and 1 Peter 2 suggest, as spiritual beings, whose glory do they see? The glory of man looming bright, or the glory of CHRIST pervading the sanctuary? Perhaps that’s what it means by “for the sake of the angels?” When we take it into consideration, we are catapulted from the natural to the spiritual realm; we’re no longer talking about what it looks and feels like in the natural, but what the implications are in the spiritual realm, which is where the angels reside. I guess when you look at it like that, it very much so affects the angels! Whose glory are we emanating in the spiritual realm?

Is it a shameful thing that as I woman, I am the glory of man? Absolutely not!!

If the Glory of man is Christ, how can I be ashamed of being someone’s glory, whose very own glory is Christ?! Christ, being the glory of God, is called in Hebrews 1, the “the BRIGHTNESS of His GLORY and the EXPRESS IMAGE of His PERSON. As a woman, according to 1 Corinthians 11, I am the very expression of man – his helpmeet, like I was created to be. It’s not about covering my head; it’s about whose glory I want to be revealed when I’m in God’s presence – Man’s glory or Christ’s?

It’s my conviction to start wearing head coverings now and I think it will release me to be free in prayer and in worship; I will wear it as a symbol of authority to remind myself that as a woman, I am submitted to man, who is submitted to Christ, and I am safe. For all intents and purposes, I am covered… what freedom I think I will find under that covering!!
What is your attitude and feelings toward woman who do not wear a head cover?
This "head covering" might very will have meant a veil also (covering the front of the head also) so if some translate it that way should or must they they wear a veil?
 
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Please understand that it is not my intention nor desire to demean those who believe women should not have to wear a veil during prayer while in corporate worship, in any way. I am aware that many who believe this doctrine may be better Christians than I am in many ways.

Yet, if I were to say to you that half a chapter of Holy Scripture was “incidental” what would you think? By what authority would I have to dismiss half a chapter of the Word of God?

Why is 1 Corinthians 11 1-16 important to us today? Why is it so commonly ignored by the Churches and not followed by the majority of today’s Christian women?

In 1 Corinthians 1:1-3 we read: Paul, called to be an apostle of Jesus Christ through the will of God. That is a very impressive credential in his opening statement and all scripture he writes should be considered authoritative. Yet, many are quick to dismiss the first 16 verses of 1 Corinthians a half a chapter of Holy Scripture as either incidental or ignored altogether.

Let me first say that we live at a time when it is unpopular to confront others for immoral or improper actions and words. The popular belief of today is that everyone should be able to do their own thing, and others have no right to “judge” or correct them. What a mess this idea has created in our society and in our churches.

Sadly, many Christians have embraced this complacent attitude toward correcting others, and, as a result, sin and false doctrine in the church are seldom confronted and curbed.

However, the Bible tells us that:

2 Tim. 3:16-17
16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,
17 so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.

2 Tim. 4:1-2
1 In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who will judge the living and the dead, and in view of his appearing and his kingdom, I give you this charge:
2 Preach the Word; be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage — with great patience and careful instruction.

God tells us that His Word is not only to be used to teach and encourage but also to “correct” and “rebuke.” And in 2 Timothy 4: 3, He tells us why we must be faithful to use His Word to correct others who are in the wrong:

2 Tim. 4:3 For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.

This prophetic writing began its fulfillment shortly after it was penned and has escalated to what is happening in churches today. There are presently a great number of teachers willing to say what itching ears want to hear, instead of telling the truth as revealed in God’s Word.

However, many who embrace certain views about doctrine inevitably end up altering the clear meaning of passages that contradict what they believe. And as a result, they pass their tainted understanding of the Scriptures on to those they share with. Sadly, this in turn distorts other people’s knowledge of the Lord Jesus Christ and His Word. Why does it matter? Because this is very serious. That is why God urges us to contend for the faith:

Phil. 1:27 Whatever happens, conduct yourselves in a manner worthy of the gospel of Christ. Then, whether I come and see you or only hear about you in my absence, I will know that you stand firm in one spirit, contending as one man for the faith of the gospel…

Jude 3 Dear friends, although I was very eager to write to you about the salvation we share, I felt I had to write and urge you to contend for the faith that was once for all entrusted to the saints.

Below we come to the periscope in question. Let us read it plainly as it is written.

1 Corinthians 11:1-16 (KJV)
1 Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ.
2 Now I praise you, brethren, that ye remember me in all things, and keep the ordinances, as I delivered them to you.
3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.
4 Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonoureth his head.
5 But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven.
6 For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered.
7 For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man.
8 For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man.
9 Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man.
10 For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head because of the angels.
11 Nevertheless neither is the man without the woman, neither the woman without the man, in the Lord.
12 For as the woman is of the man, even so is the man also by the woman; but all things of God.
13 Judge in yourselves: is it comely that a woman pray unto God uncovered?
14 Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him?
15 But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for her hair is given her for a covering.
16 But if any man seem to be contentious, we have no such custom, neither the churches of God.



Two points seem to be the most significant:
(1) No word for veil occurs in vv 2-14. Thus, that the hair is regarded by Paul as a veil in v 15 is not necessarily an argument that the hair is the same as the head covering that he is describing in these verses.
(2) Throughout this periscope, Paul points out the similarities of long hair with a head covering. But his doing so strongly suggests that the two are not to be identified. Precisely because they are similar, they are not identical. Note the following verses.

11:5-- “but any woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered disgraces her head--it is one and the same thing as having her head shaved.”
11:6-- “For if a woman will not cover herself, then she should cut off her hair; but if it is disgraceful for a woman to have her hair cut off or to be shaved, she should keep it covered.
11:7-- “For a man ought not to cover his head . . .”
11:10-- “For this reason a woman ought to have [a symbol of] authority on her head”
11:13-- “Is it proper for a woman to pray to God with her head uncovered?”
11:15-- “but if a woman has long hair, it is her glory . . .”

Several points can be made here.
(1) If ‘covering’ = ‘hair,’ then all men should shave their heads or go bald because the men are to have their heads uncovered.
(2) If ‘covering’ = ‘long hair,’ then v 6 seems to suggest a tautology: “if a woman will not wear long hair, then she should cut off her hair.” But this in no way advances the argument.
(3) The argument caves in by its own subtlety. To see ‘hair’ = ‘head covering’ means that one has to go through several exegetical hoops. In short, it hardly appears to be the plain meaning of the text.
(4) Verses 10 and 15 would have to be saying the same thing if long hair is the same as a head covering. But this can hardly be the case. In v 10, a woman is required to wear a ‘symbol of authority.’ Such a symbol represents her submission, not her glory.

To argue, then, that long hair is the woman’s head covering seems to miss the very point of the function of the head covering and of the long hair: one shows her submission while the other shows her glory. Both of these are contrasted with an uncovered head while praying or prophesying, or a shaved head at any time: such would speak of the woman’s humiliation and shame.

So why is any of this important? Why does any of this really matter? It’s all about being in proper fellowship with the Lord! If you are a woman reading this, I strongly urge you to prayerfully seek out the Lord’s guidance. Perhaps you have been attending church for years and this is the first time this has been brought up to you? Given our post-feminist society, most Pastors will steer well clear of such passages to avoid conflict.
I think v.15, is the linchpin in this passage as many translations translate "anti" as "for" or "as."
"...but if a woman has long hair, it is her glory? For her hair is given to her for a covering." (ESV)
"...but that if a woman has long hair, it is her glory? For long hair is given to her as a covering. (NIV)
This causes the reader to equate a woman's long hair with her covering. In other words, long hair is her cover. And since her long hair is her covering, she need not wear anything else upon her head to veil herself.
However, the word anti can also mean "instead of" as in anti-Christ.
"...and a woman, if she have long hair, a glory it is to her, because the hair instead of a covering hath been given to her;" (YLT)
I believe this translation is the preferred translation as it best conveys the meaning of this subject passage. The first part of v.15 states that a woman's long hair is her glory. Given this factual statement, it is thus incumbent upon her to cover or veil her head/long hair since the "woman is the glory of man" (v.7). In the congregation, a woman's glory (her long hair) is to be covered or veiled since she reflects the glory of man. The man on the other hand, is to leave his head uncovered since "he is the image and glory of God" (v.7). When the congregation thus gathers together collectively, they reflect the proper order of things where God's glory is preeminent as displayed by the men leaving their heads uncovered (to show God's glory) while the women cover their heads (to hide man's glory).

Out of curiosity, given your position on this pastor, do the women in your congregation cover their heads? If so, has this always been the case or has it taken a long time for them to get used to the idea?
 
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I think v.15, is the linchpin in this passage as many translations translate "anti" as "for" or "as."
"...but if a woman has long hair, it is her glory? For her hair is given to her for a covering." (ESV)
"...but that if a woman has long hair, it is her glory? For long hair is given to her as a covering. (NIV)
This causes the reader to equate a woman's long hair with her covering. In other words, long hair is her cover. And since her long hair is her covering, she need not wear anything else upon her head to veil herself.
However, the word anti can also mean "instead of" as in anti-Christ.
"...and a woman, if she have long hair, a glory it is to her, because the hair instead of a covering hath been given to her;" (YLT)
I believe this translation is the preferred translation as it best conveys the meaning of this subject passage. The first part of v.15 states that a woman's long hair is her glory. Given this factual statement, it is thus incumbent upon her to cover or veil her head/long hair since the "woman is the glory of man" (v.7). In the congregation, a woman's glory (her long hair) is to be covered or veiled since she reflects the glory of man. The man on the other hand, is to leave his head uncovered since "he is the image and glory of God" (v.7). When the congregation thus gathers together collectively, they reflect the proper order of things where God's glory is preeminent as displayed by the men leaving their heads uncovered (to show God's glory) while the women cover their heads (to hide man's glory).
He covered this in his original post and Hair couldn't possibly be considered as a meaning for head covering.:
Two points seem to be the most significant:
(1) No word for veil occurs in vv 2-14. Thus, that the hair is regarded by Paul as a veil in v 15 is not necessarily an argument that the hair is the same as the head covering that he is describing in these verses.
(2) Throughout this periscope, Paul points out the similarities of long hair with a head covering. But his doing so strongly suggests that the two are not to be identified. Precisely because they are similar, they are not identical. Note the following verses.

11:5-- “but any woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered disgraces her head--it is one and the same thing as having her head shaved.”
11:6-- “For if a woman will not cover herself, then she should cut off her hair; but if it is disgraceful for a woman to have her hair cut off or to be shaved, she should keep it covered.
11:7-- “For a man ought not to cover his head . . .”
11:10-- “For this reason a woman ought to have [a symbol of] authority on her head”
11:13-- “Is it proper for a woman to pray to God with her head uncovered?”
11:15-- “but if a woman has long hair, it is her glory . . .”

Several points can be made here.
(1) If ‘covering’ = ‘hair,’ then all men should shave their heads or go bald because the men are to have their heads uncovered.
(2) If ‘covering’ = ‘long hair,’ then v 6 seems to suggest a tautology: “if a woman will not wear long hair, then she should cut off her hair.” But this in no way advances the argument.
(3) The argument caves in by its own subtlety. To see ‘hair’ = ‘head covering’ means that one has to go through several exegetical hoops. In short, it hardly appears to be the plain meaning of the text.
(4) Verses 10 and 15 would have to be saying the same thing if long hair is the same as a head covering. But this can hardly be the case. In v 10, a woman is required to wear a ‘symbol of authority.’ Such a symbol represents her submission, not her glory.

To argue, then, that long hair is the woman’s head covering seems to miss the very point of the function of the head covering and of the long hair: one shows her submission while the other shows her glory. Both of these are contrasted with an uncovered head while praying or prophesying, or a shaved head at any time: such would speak of the woman’s humiliation and shame."
 
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Please understand that it is not my intention nor desire to demean those who believe women should not have to wear a veil during prayer while in corporate worship, in any way. I am aware that many who believe this doctrine may be better Christians than I am in many ways.

Yet, if I were to say to you that half a chapter of Holy Scripture was “incidental” what would you think? By what authority would I have to dismiss half a chapter of the Word of God?

Why is 1 Corinthians 11 1-16 important to us today? Why is it so commonly ignored by the Churches and not followed by the majority of today’s Christian women?

In 1 Corinthians 1:1-3 we read: Paul, called to be an apostle of Jesus Christ through the will of God. That is a very impressive credential in his opening statement and all scripture he writes should be considered authoritative. Yet, many are quick to dismiss the first 16 verses of 1 Corinthians a half a chapter of Holy Scripture as either incidental or ignored altogether.

Let me first say that we live at a time when it is unpopular to confront others for immoral or improper actions and words. The popular belief of today is that everyone should be able to do their own thing, and others have no right to “judge” or correct them. What a mess this idea has created in our society and in our churches.

Sadly, many Christians have embraced this complacent attitude toward correcting others, and, as a result, sin and false doctrine in the church are seldom confronted and curbed.

However, the Bible tells us that:

2 Tim. 3:16-17
16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,
17 so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.

2 Tim. 4:1-2
1 In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who will judge the living and the dead, and in view of his appearing and his kingdom, I give you this charge:
2 Preach the Word; be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage — with great patience and careful instruction.

God tells us that His Word is not only to be used to teach and encourage but also to “correct” and “rebuke.” And in 2 Timothy 4: 3, He tells us why we must be faithful to use His Word to correct others who are in the wrong:

2 Tim. 4:3 For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.

This prophetic writing began its fulfillment shortly after it was penned and has escalated to what is happening in churches today. There are presently a great number of teachers willing to say what itching ears want to hear, instead of telling the truth as revealed in God’s Word.

However, many who embrace certain views about doctrine inevitably end up altering the clear meaning of passages that contradict what they believe. And as a result, they pass their tainted understanding of the Scriptures on to those they share with. Sadly, this in turn distorts other people’s knowledge of the Lord Jesus Christ and His Word. Why does it matter? Because this is very serious. That is why God urges us to contend for the faith:

Phil. 1:27 Whatever happens, conduct yourselves in a manner worthy of the gospel of Christ. Then, whether I come and see you or only hear about you in my absence, I will know that you stand firm in one spirit, contending as one man for the faith of the gospel…

Jude 3 Dear friends, although I was very eager to write to you about the salvation we share, I felt I had to write and urge you to contend for the faith that was once for all entrusted to the saints.

Below we come to the periscope in question. Let us read it plainly as it is written.

1 Corinthians 11:1-16 (KJV)
1 Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ.
2 Now I praise you, brethren, that ye remember me in all things, and keep the ordinances, as I delivered them to you.
3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.
4 Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonoureth his head.
5 But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven.
6 For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered.
7 For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man.
8 For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man.
9 Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man.
10 For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head because of the angels.
11 Nevertheless neither is the man without the woman, neither the woman without the man, in the Lord.
12 For as the woman is of the man, even so is the man also by the woman; but all things of God.
13 Judge in yourselves: is it comely that a woman pray unto God uncovered?
14 Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him?
15 But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for her hair is given her for a covering.
16 But if any man seem to be contentious, we have no such custom, neither the churches of God.



Two points seem to be the most significant:
(1) No word for veil occurs in vv 2-14. Thus, that the hair is regarded by Paul as a veil in v 15 is not necessarily an argument that the hair is the same as the head covering that he is describing in these verses.
(2) Throughout this periscope, Paul points out the similarities of long hair with a head covering. But his doing so strongly suggests that the two are not to be identified. Precisely because they are similar, they are not identical. Note the following verses.

11:5-- “but any woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered disgraces her head--it is one and the same thing as having her head shaved.”
11:6-- “For if a woman will not cover herself, then she should cut off her hair; but if it is disgraceful for a woman to have her hair cut off or to be shaved, she should keep it covered.
11:7-- “For a man ought not to cover his head . . .”
11:10-- “For this reason a woman ought to have [a symbol of] authority on her head”
11:13-- “Is it proper for a woman to pray to God with her head uncovered?”
11:15-- “but if a woman has long hair, it is her glory . . .”

Several points can be made here.
(1) If ‘covering’ = ‘hair,’ then all men should shave their heads or go bald because the men are to have their heads uncovered.
(2) If ‘covering’ = ‘long hair,’ then v 6 seems to suggest a tautology: “if a woman will not wear long hair, then she should cut off her hair.” But this in no way advances the argument.
(3) The argument caves in by its own subtlety. To see ‘hair’ = ‘head covering’ means that one has to go through several exegetical hoops. In short, it hardly appears to be the plain meaning of the text.
(4) Verses 10 and 15 would have to be saying the same thing if long hair is the same as a head covering. But this can hardly be the case. In v 10, a woman is required to wear a ‘symbol of authority.’ Such a symbol represents her submission, not her glory.

To argue, then, that long hair is the woman’s head covering seems to miss the very point of the function of the head covering and of the long hair: one shows her submission while the other shows her glory. Both of these are contrasted with an uncovered head while praying or prophesying, or a shaved head at any time: such would speak of the woman’s humiliation and shame.

So why is any of this important? Why does any of this really matter? It’s all about being in proper fellowship with the Lord! If you are a woman reading this, I strongly urge you to prayerfully seek out the Lord’s guidance. Perhaps you have been attending church for years and this is the first time this has been brought up to you? Given our post-feminist society, most Pastors will steer well clear of such passages to avoid conflict.

The first 16 verses have the same theme. One very important principle of Bible interpretation, besides that it is all inspired by God and authoritative, is to look for the principle or main idea of a passage. Obviously, verse 3 is Paul's principle. However, his principle involves different functions between the Father and Jesus as well as between males and females.

He also grounds that principle for male and female in the order of their creation in verse 8. Therefore, we must take this passage seriously as, indeed, God's Word. However, Paul applies his principle to the cultural customs of the Corinthians in the rest of the verses. Now, since we are in a very different culture and age, we need to take that principle about different roles of male and female and then apply it to our age.

Paul himself did that in Ephesians 5:20-36 to marriage and to the church in 1 Corinthians 14 and 1 Timothy 2. Therefore, the way I see it, it's clear that the direction-setting role is reserved for the males in both situations as servant-leaders. Otherwise, if we dismiss Paul's teachings completely, we are dismissing God's Word to our peril.
 
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He covered this in his original post and Hair couldn't possibly be considered as a meaning for head covering.:
Two points seem to be the most significant:
(1) No word for veil occurs in vv 2-14. Thus, that the hair is regarded by Paul as a veil in v 15 is not necessarily an argument that the hair is the same as the head covering that he is describing in these verses.
(2) Throughout this periscope, Paul points out the similarities of long hair with a head covering. But his doing so strongly suggests that the two are not to be identified. Precisely because they are similar, they are not identical. Note the following verses.

11:5-- “but any woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered disgraces her head--it is one and the same thing as having her head shaved.”
11:6-- “For if a woman will not cover herself, then she should cut off her hair; but if it is disgraceful for a woman to have her hair cut off or to be shaved, she should keep it covered.
11:7-- “For a man ought not to cover his head . . .”
11:10-- “For this reason a woman ought to have [a symbol of] authority on her head”
11:13-- “Is it proper for a woman to pray to God with her head uncovered?”
11:15-- “but if a woman has long hair, it is her glory . . .”

Several points can be made here.
(1) If ‘covering’ = ‘hair,’ then all men should shave their heads or go bald because the men are to have their heads uncovered.
(2) If ‘covering’ = ‘long hair,’ then v 6 seems to suggest a tautology: “if a woman will not wear long hair, then she should cut off her hair.” But this in no way advances the argument.
(3) The argument caves in by its own subtlety. To see ‘hair’ = ‘head covering’ means that one has to go through several exegetical hoops. In short, it hardly appears to be the plain meaning of the text.
(4) Verses 10 and 15 would have to be saying the same thing if long hair is the same as a head covering. But this can hardly be the case. In v 10, a woman is required to wear a ‘symbol of authority.’ Such a symbol represents her submission, not her glory.

To argue, then, that long hair is the woman’s head covering seems to miss the very point of the function of the head covering and of the long hair: one shows her submission while the other shows her glory. Both of these are contrasted with an uncovered head while praying or prophesying, or a shaved head at any time: such would speak of the woman’s humiliation and shame."
I don't disagree with him. Just confirming what he wrote with my own reply/explanation.
 
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Please understand that it is not my intention nor desire to demean those who believe women should not have to wear a veil during prayer while in corporate worship, in any way. I am aware that many who believe this doctrine may be better Christians than I am in many ways.

Yet, if I were to say to you that half a chapter of Holy Scripture was “incidental” what would you think? By what authority would I have to dismiss half a chapter of the Word of God?

Why is 1 Corinthians 11 1-16 important to us today? Why is it so commonly ignored by the Churches and not followed by the majority of today’s Christian women?

In 1 Corinthians 1:1-3 we read: Paul, called to be an apostle of Jesus Christ through the will of God. That is a very impressive credential in his opening statement and all scripture he writes should be considered authoritative. Yet, many are quick to dismiss the first 16 verses of 1 Corinthians a half a chapter of Holy Scripture as either incidental or ignored altogether.

Let me first say that we live at a time when it is unpopular to confront others for immoral or improper actions and words. The popular belief of today is that everyone should be able to do their own thing, and others have no right to “judge” or correct them. What a mess this idea has created in our society and in our churches.

Sadly, many Christians have embraced this complacent attitude toward correcting others, and, as a result, sin and false doctrine in the church are seldom confronted and curbed.

However, the Bible tells us that:

2 Tim. 3:16-17
16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,
17 so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.

2 Tim. 4:1-2
1 In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who will judge the living and the dead, and in view of his appearing and his kingdom, I give you this charge:
2 Preach the Word; be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage — with great patience and careful instruction.

God tells us that His Word is not only to be used to teach and encourage but also to “correct” and “rebuke.” And in 2 Timothy 4: 3, He tells us why we must be faithful to use His Word to correct others who are in the wrong:

2 Tim. 4:3 For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.

This prophetic writing began its fulfillment shortly after it was penned and has escalated to what is happening in churches today. There are presently a great number of teachers willing to say what itching ears want to hear, instead of telling the truth as revealed in God’s Word.

However, many who embrace certain views about doctrine inevitably end up altering the clear meaning of passages that contradict what they believe. And as a result, they pass their tainted understanding of the Scriptures on to those they share with. Sadly, this in turn distorts other people’s knowledge of the Lord Jesus Christ and His Word. Why does it matter? Because this is very serious. That is why God urges us to contend for the faith:

Phil. 1:27 Whatever happens, conduct yourselves in a manner worthy of the gospel of Christ. Then, whether I come and see you or only hear about you in my absence, I will know that you stand firm in one spirit, contending as one man for the faith of the gospel…

Jude 3 Dear friends, although I was very eager to write to you about the salvation we share, I felt I had to write and urge you to contend for the faith that was once for all entrusted to the saints.

Below we come to the periscope in question. Let us read it plainly as it is written.

1 Corinthians 11:1-16 (KJV)
1 Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ.
2 Now I praise you, brethren, that ye remember me in all things, and keep the ordinances, as I delivered them to you.
3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.
4 Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonoureth his head.
5 But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven.
6 For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered.
7 For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man.
8 For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man.
9 Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man.
10 For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head because of the angels.
11 Nevertheless neither is the man without the woman, neither the woman without the man, in the Lord.
12 For as the woman is of the man, even so is the man also by the woman; but all things of God.
13 Judge in yourselves: is it comely that a woman pray unto God uncovered?
14 Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him?
15 But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for her hair is given her for a covering.
16 But if any man seem to be contentious, we have no such custom, neither the churches of God.



Two points seem to be the most significant:
(1) No word for veil occurs in vv 2-14. Thus, that the hair is regarded by Paul as a veil in v 15 is not necessarily an argument that the hair is the same as the head covering that he is describing in these verses.
(2) Throughout this periscope, Paul points out the similarities of long hair with a head covering. But his doing so strongly suggests that the two are not to be identified. Precisely because they are similar, they are not identical. Note the following verses.

11:5-- “but any woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered disgraces her head--it is one and the same thing as having her head shaved.”
11:6-- “For if a woman will not cover herself, then she should cut off her hair; but if it is disgraceful for a woman to have her hair cut off or to be shaved, she should keep it covered.
11:7-- “For a man ought not to cover his head . . .”
11:10-- “For this reason a woman ought to have [a symbol of] authority on her head”
11:13-- “Is it proper for a woman to pray to God with her head uncovered?”
11:15-- “but if a woman has long hair, it is her glory . . .”

Several points can be made here.
(1) If ‘covering’ = ‘hair,’ then all men should shave their heads or go bald because the men are to have their heads uncovered.
(2) If ‘covering’ = ‘long hair,’ then v 6 seems to suggest a tautology: “if a woman will not wear long hair, then she should cut off her hair.” But this in no way advances the argument.
(3) The argument caves in by its own subtlety. To see ‘hair’ = ‘head covering’ means that one has to go through several exegetical hoops. In short, it hardly appears to be the plain meaning of the text.
(4) Verses 10 and 15 would have to be saying the same thing if long hair is the same as a head covering. But this can hardly be the case. In v 10, a woman is required to wear a ‘symbol of authority.’ Such a symbol represents her submission, not her glory.

To argue, then, that long hair is the woman’s head covering seems to miss the very point of the function of the head covering and of the long hair: one shows her submission while the other shows her glory. Both of these are contrasted with an uncovered head while praying or prophesying, or a shaved head at any time: such would speak of the woman’s humiliation and shame.

So why is any of this important? Why does any of this really matter? It’s all about being in proper fellowship with the Lord! If you are a woman reading this, I strongly urge you to prayerfully seek out the Lord’s guidance. Perhaps you have been attending church for years and this is the first time this has been brought up to you? Given our post-feminist society, most Pastors will steer well clear of such passages to avoid conflict.
How does 1 Corinthians 11:16 fit into your interpretation?
16 But if any man seem to be contentious, we have no such custom, neither the churches of God.
 
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How does 1 Corinthians 11:16 fit into your interpretation?
16 But if any man seem to be contentious, we have no such custom, neither the churches of God.
Excerpt used for EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES ONLY: MacDonald, W. (1995). Believer’s Bible Commentary: Old and New Testaments. (A. Farstad, Ed.) (p. 1787). Nashville: Thomas Nelson.
11:16 The apostle closes this section with the statement: “But if anyone seems to be contentious, we have no such custom, nor do the churches of God.” Does Paul mean, as has been suggested, that the things he has just been saying are not important enough to contend about? Does he mean that there was no such custom of women veiling their heads in the churches? Does he mean that these teachings are optional and not to be pressed upon women as the commandments of the Lord? It seems strange that any such interpretations would ever be offered, yet they are commonly heard today. This would mean that Paul considered these instructions as of no real consequence, and he had just been wasting over half a chapter of Holy Scripture in setting them forth!
There are at least two possible explanations of this verse which fit in with the rest of the Scripture. First of all, the apostle may be saying that he anticipates that certain ones will be contentious about these matters, but he adds that we have no such custom, that is, the custom of contending about this. We do not argue about such matters, but accept them as the teaching of the Lord. Another interpretation, favored by William Kelly, is that Paul was saying that the churches of God did not have any such custom as that of women praying or prophesying without being covered.
 
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is God going to be displeased if women do not cover etc??? or he values more a clean heart etc...
An excellent contribution to the thread NBB. IMHO, Paul who is an apostle wrote half a chapter of Holy Scripture for a reason. How could ignoring half a chapter of Holy Scripture ever please God?
Please read 1 Corinthians 11 1-34 and the below exegesis and make up your own mind.

Excerpt used for EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES ONLY: MacDonald, W. (1995). Believer’s Bible Commentary: Old and New Testaments. (A. Farstad, Ed.) (p. 1787). Nashville: Thomas Nelson.
Concerning Women’s Head-Coverings (11:2–16)

Verses 2–16 of chapter 11 are devoted to the subject of women’s head-coverings. The remaining verses deal with abuses in connection with the Lord’s Supper (vv. 17–34). The first section of the chapter has been much disputed. Some think that the instruction given here was applicable only to Paul’s day. Some even go so far as to contend that these verses reflect Paul’s prejudice against women, since he was a bachelor! Still others simply accept the teaching of this portion, seeking to obey its precepts even if they do not understand them all.
11:2 The apostle first of all commends the Corinthians for the way in which they remembered him in all things, and held fast the traditions just as he had delivered them. Traditions refer not to habits and practices that have arisen in the church down through the years, but rather, in this case, to the inspired instructions of the Apostle Paul.
11:3 Paul now introduces the subject of women’s head coverings. Behind his instruction is the fact that every ordered society is built on two pillars—authority and subjection to that authority. It is impossible to have a well-functioning community where these two principles are not observed. Paul mentions three great relationships involving authority and subjection. First, the head of every man is Christ; Christ is Lord and man is subject to Him. Secondly, the head of woman is man; the place of headship was given to the man, and the woman is under his authority. Third, the head of Christ is God; even in the Godhead, One Person has the place of rule and Another takes the place of willing subordination. These examples of headship and submission were designed by God Himself and are fundamental in His arrangement of the universe.
At the outset it should be emphasized that subjection does not mean inferiority. Christ is subject to God the Father but He is not inferior to Him. Neither is woman inferior to man, though she is subordinate to him.
11:4 Every man who prays or prophesies with his head covered dishonors his head, that is, Christ. It is saying, in effect, that the man does not acknowledge Christ as his head. Thus it is an act of gross disrespect.
11:5 Every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head, that is, the man. She is saying, in effect, that she does not recognize man’s God-given headship and will not submit to it.
If this were the only verse in the Bible on the subject, then it would imply that it is all right for a woman to pray or prophesy in the assembly as long as she has a veil or other covering on her head. But Paul teaches elsewhere that women should be silent in the assembly (1 Cor. 14:34), that they are not permitted to teach or to have authority over the man but to be in silence (1 Tim. 2:12).
Actually meetings of the assembly do not come into view until verse 17, so the instructions concerning the head-covering in verses 2–16 cannot be confined to church meetings. They apply to whenever a woman prays or prophesies. She prays silently in the assembly, since 1 Timothy 2:8 limits public prayer to the men (lit., males). She prays audibly or silently at other times. She prophesies when she teaches other women (Titus 2:3–5) or children in the Sunday school.
11:6 If a woman is not covered, she might as well be shorn. But if it is shameful for a woman to be shorn or shaved, then she should be covered. The unveiled head of a woman is as shameful as if her hair were cut off. The apostle is not commanding a barber’s operation but rather telling what moral consistency would require!
11:7 In verses 7–10, Paul teaches the subordination of the woman to the man by going back to creation. This should forever lay to rest any idea that his teaching about women’s covering was what was culturally suitable in his day but not applicable to us today. The headship of man and the subjection of woman have been God’s order from the very beginning.
First of all, man is the image and glory of God whereas woman is the glory of man. This means that man was placed on earth as God’s representative, to exercise dominion over it. Man’s uncovered head is a silent witness to this fact. The woman was never given this place of headship; instead she is the glory of man in the sense that she “renders conspicuous the authority of man,” as W. E. Vine expresses it.
Man indeed ought not to cover his head in prayer; it would be tantamount to veiling the glory of God, and this would be an insult to the Divine Majesty.
11:8 Paul next reminds us that man was not created from woman but woman was created from man. The man was first, then the woman was taken from his side. This priority of the man strengthens the apostle’s case for man’s headship.
11:9 The purpose of creation is next alluded to in order to press home the point. Nor was man created primarily for the woman, but rather woman for the man. The Lord distinctly stated in Genesis 2:18, “It is not good that man should be alone; I will make him a helper comparable to him.”
11:10 Because of her position of subordination to man, the woman ought to have a symbol of authority on her head. The symbol of authority is the head-covering and here it indicates not her own authority but subjection to the authority of her husband.
Why does Paul add because of the angels? We would suggest that the angels are spectators of the things that are happening on earth today, as they were of the things that happened at creation. In the first creation, they saw how woman usurped the place of headship over the man. She made the decision that Adam should have made. As a result of this, sin entered the human race with its unspeakable aftermath of misery and woe. God does not want what happened in the first creation to be repeated in the new creation. When the angels look down, He wants them to see the woman acting in subjection to the man, and indicating this outwardly by a covering on her head.
We might pause here to state that the head-covering is simply an outward sign and it is of value only when it is the outward sign of an inward grace. In other words, a woman might have a covering on her head and yet not truly be submissive to her husband. In such a case, to wear a head-covering would be of no value at all. The most important thing is to be sure that the heart is truly subordinate; then a covering on a woman’s head becomes truly meaningful.
11:11 Paul is not implying that man is at all independent of the woman, so he adds: “Nevertheless, neither is man independent of woman, nor woman independent of man, in the Lord.” In other words, man and woman are mutually dependent. They need one another and the idea of subordination is not at all in conflict with the idea of mutual interdependence.
11:12 Woman came from man by creation, that is, she was created from Adam’s side. But Paul points out that man also comes through woman. Here he is referring to the process of birth. The woman gives birth to the man child. Thus God has created this perfect balance to indicate that the one cannot exist without the other.
All things are from God means that He has divinely appointed all these things, so there is no just cause for complaint. Not only were these relationships created by God, but the purpose of them all is to glorify Him. All of this should make the man humble and the woman content.
11:13 The apostle now challenges the Corinthians to judge among themselves if it is proper for a woman to pray to God with her head uncovered. He appeals to their instinctive sense. The suggestion is that it is not reverent or decorous for a woman to enter into the presence of God unveiled.
11:14 Just how does nature itself teach us that it is a shame for a man to have long hair is not made clear. Some have suggested that a man’s hair will not naturally grow into as long tresses as a woman’s. For a man to have long hair makes him appear effeminate. In most cultures, the male wears his hair shorter than the female.
11:15 Verse 15 has been greatly misunderstood by many. Some have suggested that since a woman’s hair is given to her for a covering, it is not necessary for her to have any other covering. But such a teaching does grave violence to this portion of Scripture. Unless one sees that two coverings are mentioned in this chapter, the passage becomes hopelessly confusing. This may be demonstrated by referring back to verse 6. There we read: “For if a woman is not covered, let her also be shorn.” According to the interpretation just mentioned, this would mean that if a woman “does not have her hair on,” then she might just as well be shorn. But this is ridiculous. If she does not “have her hair on,” she could not possibly be shorn!
The actual argument in verse 15 is that there is a real analogy between the spiritual and the natural. God gave woman a natural covering of glory in a way He did not give to man. There is a spiritual significance to this. It teaches that when a woman prays to God, she should wear a covering on her head. What is true in the natural sphere should be true in the spiritual.
11:16 The apostle closes this section with the statement: “But if anyone seems to be contentious, we have no such custom, nor do the churches of God.” Does Paul mean, as has been suggested, that the things he has just been saying are not important enough to contend about? Does he mean that there was no such custom of women veiling their heads in the churches? Does he mean that these teachings are optional and not to be pressed upon women as the commandments of the Lord? It seems strange that any such interpretations would ever be offered, yet they are commonly heard today. This would mean that Paul considered these instructions as of no real consequence, and he had just been wasting over half a chapter of Holy Scripture in setting them forth!
There are at least two possible explanations of this verse which fit in with the rest of the Scripture. First of all, the apostle may be saying that he anticipates that certain ones will be contentious about these matters, but he adds that we have no such custom, that is, the custom of contending about this. We do not argue about such matters, but accept them as the teaching of the Lord. Another interpretation, favored by William Kelly, is that Paul was saying that the churches of God did not have any such custom as that of women praying or prophesying without being covered.


MacDonald, W. (1995). Believer’s Bible Commentary: Old and New Testaments. (A. Farstad, Ed.) (pp. 1784–1787). Nashville: Thomas Nelson.
 
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Lets be real, women are not going to start covering their heads in this age, and more, we should focus on more important things to start avoiding to do, like actual problems with much more gravity than this.
Also i don't know but i don't like women with veils, i don't know why.
 
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Lets be real, women are not going to start covering their heads in this age, and more, we should focus on more important things to start avoiding to do, like actual problems with much more gravity than this.
Also i don't know but i don't like women with veils, i don't know why.
Not so NBB! The Head Covering Movement Although the majority do not because this topic seems to be controversial and most congregations avoid it. There are women who do wear head coverings in our present day.

Might want to pick up a copy of Head Covering: A Forgotten Christian Practice for Modern Times, by Jeremy Gardiner. It is a very well written book and I highly recommend it. The book is available on amazon.com

Jeremy doesn't have Pastor anywhere in his title so we are good. ;-)
 
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Lets be real, women are not going to start covering their heads in this age, and more, we should focus on more important things to start avoiding to do, like actual problems with much more gravity than this.
Also i don't know but i don't like women with veils, i don't know why.
Whether women choose to cover or not certainly is their choice. As to the "more important things," we don't get to choose for ourselves what we deem to be important and what is not important. If Scripture instructs/commands us to do certain things, then we do not have a choice to regard them as unimportant and relegate them as mere "suggestions." The Apostle Paul thought it was important enough to include in his writings. To disregard it is folly.
 
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Not so NBB! The Head Covering Movement Although the majority do not because this topic seems to be controversial and most congregations avoid it. There are women who do wear head coverings in our present day.

Might want to pick up a copy of Head Covering: A Forgotten Christian Practice for Modern Times, by Jeremy Gardiner. It is a very well written book and I highly recommend it. The book is available on amazon.com

Jeremy doesn't have Pastor anywhere in his title so we are good. ;-)
Why do you suppose most pastors avoid preaching on it? Either they don't believe in the applicability of women wearing head coverings today. Or if they did believe it, they would be reluctant to preach it because it would likely result in an exodus of women leaving their congregations. We can't have that can we?
 
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Whether women choose to cover or not certainly is their choice. As to the "more important things," we don't get to choose for ourselves what we deem to be important and what is not important. If Scripture instructs/commands us to do certain things, then we do not have a choice to regard them as unimportant and relegate them as mere "suggestions." The Apostle Paul thought it was important enough to include in his writings. To disregard it is folly.

The 'important parts' is what does harm, or can send people to hell, or being in a bad stance with God.
I wonder how many are going to be judged for not weaing veil.
 
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The 'important parts' is what does harm, or can send people to hell, or being in a bad stance with God.
I wonder how many are going to be judged for not weaing veil.
Only God knows. Why take a chance? If one knows the right thing to do, and does not do it, it is disobedience.
 
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Why do you suppose most pastors avoid preaching on it? Either they don't believe in the applicability of women wearing head coverings today. Or if they did believe it, they would be reluctant to preach it because it would likely result in an exodus of women leaving their congregations. We can't have that can we?
Both! I tried to address this in my initial post #1. We live in a post-feminist society and as such we bring those world views to the church. Let's face it in today's world it isn't going to make you popular to sermon on Ephesian 5 22-33; wives submit to your husbands. Really? In today's world that is considered sexist and treating women like a "floor mat" as one of the other members stated in her post. So isn't it easier for the Pastor to just skip that and sermon on something else? Certainly! Look at the controversy surrounding head coverings, and that is in 1 Corinthians 11 which the entire chapter is dealing with corporate worship. Paul dedicates half to head coverings why they should be worn by women during services as well as the reasons why personally explained by him. The second half is about the Lord's supper and corrections there. Taken as a whole 1 Corinthians 11 is very formidable. Yet people treat the first half as "incidental," to their own peril.

I'll give you a real-life example:
I shared this topic with a fellow Pastor that I know in another city, I had sent him copies of Head Covering: A Forgotten Christian Practice for Modern Times. I eventually followed up with him months later as to his position. His response was shocking, he stated that he considered it "incidental." I'll pray for him because to believe that a half a chapter of Holy Scripture to be incidental was a surprise. Gee, I wonder which parts of the bible the rest of us can decide on our own is "incidental" and not really follow it?
in·ci·den·tal
/ˌinsəˈden(t)l/
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  1. 1.accompanying but not a major part of something."for the fieldworker who deals with real problems, paperwork is incidental"
 
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Why do you suppose most pastors avoid preaching on it? Either they don't believe in the applicability of women wearing head coverings today. Or if they did believe it, they would be reluctant to preach it because it would likely result in an exodus of women leaving their congregations. We can't have that can we?
My associate pastor has a word for Christians who only follow what they "like" – "cafeteria Christians, or à la carte Christians." These Christians just skim by and pick or choose what they like. Pick and choose which biblical doctrines they will and won’t be followed; which doctrines will be considered “incidental.”
Unfortunately, when we do that we would love to grab the fries and the pizza, but who takes the salad? That's the problem. If it were up to us to decide what we want to practice or not it would be all chocolate and no bread. We wouldn't need prophets, bible books, Apostles, or a Savior to tell us what we should do.
 
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My associate pastor has a word for Christians who only follow what they "like" – "cafeteria Christians, or à la carte Christians." These Christians just skim by and pick or choose what they like. Pick and choose which biblical doctrines they will and won’t be followed; which doctrines will be considered “incidental.”
Unfortunately, when we do that we would love to grab the fries and the pizza, but who takes the salad? That's the problem. If it were up to us to decide what we want to practice or not it would be all chocolate and no bread. We wouldn't need prophets, bible books, Apostles, or a Savior to tell us what we should do.
Don't put all christians that disagree with this on that bag,
Its just women are just not going to do it. And its not like submitting to husbands, and gays and etc etc or women leader roles even.
 
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The 'important parts' is what does harm, or can send people to hell, or being in a bad stance with God.
I wonder how many are going to be judged for not weaing veil.
Not sure this is the troubling part. There is a lot about the scriptures that is a mystery even to me. It's up to me as a Pastor to hand out spiritual life vests, but I can't make people wear them. When I drink my cocoa I have faith my wife didn't poison it! I just have to have BLIND faith in the Lord and just follow everything He says.
Matthew 7:21 (KJV)
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Matthew 7:13-14 (KJV)
13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
 
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