Why can't America/the West be finally saved?

VCR-2000 said:

But the world has more evil than good people, that's how it's set up. It's biased in that way. That seems like it was the rule.

God can not force people to repent, but Hell (eternal suffering) exists for those who reject him. Whether they choose that themselves or not doesn't matter. Also, would you so most Christians believe that atheists and everyone else except for those who are very passionate for Christ are actually leaving for eternal suffering if they reject Jesus or if they are indifferent? In the end our free choice doesn't matter anymore because we can't choose our way out of our eternal fate once we are there or how such rules for that place operate.

That's the problem. The world's rules only seems to operate on strict binaries.

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Not every Christian believe that all non-believers will necessarily be unsaved.

David Neos said:

Not every Christian believe that all non-believers will necessarily be unsaved.

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yes we do not know who will be saved or not. The bible mentions that there will be some who seem like they are Christians but will not be saved and others who may not seem like the typical Christian who will be first in heaven. Jesus says when a person helps someone like the good Samaritan did for the person who was left destitute in the street they are helping him and this is what is required to inherit the kingdom of God.

So I think anyone who helps his neighbor is being Christ like regardless of whether they profess to be a Christian or not. Whereas some go around professing how good they are and how much good work they do. I think these are like the Pharisees that Jesus rebukes. Similar to the TV evangelists and heads of churches who live like celebs and the same for many of their followers.

Robban said:

My condolences at your loss.

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Thank you. We believe she's in a better place. Every day I wish I was with her, or she with me. But God is good.

Greengardener said:

Oh, my...My sincere condolences. Doing the right thing in such a painful place, finding comfort in those right things - thank you for sharing.

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Thank you.