Trump administration won't call mass killing of Armenians genocide despite congressional resolution

tulc · Dec 17, 2019

Trump administration won't call mass killing of Armenians a genocide despite congressional resolutions - CNNPolitics

The Trump administration still does not view the mass killing of Armenians from 1915-1923 as genocide, despite overwhelming bipartisan support by US lawmakers to formally recognize it as such.

In a statement released Tuesday, State Department spokesperson Morgan Ortagus said the administration has not changed its position on the matter.
"Our views are reflected in the President's definitive statement on this issue from last April," Ortagus said.

In that statement, which commemorated "Armenian Remembrance Day," President Donald Trump called the massacre of Armenians by the Ottoman Empire that took place from 1915 to 1923 "one of the worst mass atrocities of the 20th century."

"We pledge to learn from past tragedies so as to not to repeat them. We welcome the efforts of Armenians and Turks to acknowledge and reckon with their painful history," Trump said in the statement. The statement did not mention genocide, but did recognize the man who coined the term -- Raphael Lemkin -- for his work seeking "to ensure atrocities like this would not be repeated."

tulc(thought this was interesting) :wave:

HTacianas · Dec 17, 2019

tulc said:
Trump administration won't call mass killing of Armenians a genocide despite congressional resolutions - CNNPolitics

tulc(thought this was interesting)

No American administration has ever done that.

redleghunter · Dec 17, 2019

Wow add that to the articles of impeachment. He used atrocity, whereas genocide is more ethnically accurate.

Sure was genocide. As was what was happening to Christians in Syria 2011 and ongoing. Our state dept back then refused to use the “g” word back then.

redleghunter · Dec 17, 2019

HTacianas said:
No American administration has ever done that.

But it’s Big Mean Orange man in charge now. It’s his fault the atrocity happened even though he was not born yet.

HTacianas · Dec 17, 2019

redleghunter said:
But it’s Big Mean Orange man in charge now. It’s his fault the atrocity happened even though he was not born yet.

That's pretty much the sentiment. But only of people grossly ignorant of the history of the matter.

redleghunter · Dec 17, 2019

And Obama ran in 2008 saying he would call it genocide and in two terms did not:

Updated - The Obameter: Recognize the Armenian genocide

redleghunter · Dec 17, 2019

HTacianas said:
That's pretty much the sentiment. But only of people grossly ignorant of the history of the matter.

Updated - The Obameter: Recognize the Armenian genocide

tulc · Dec 17, 2019

HTacianas said:
No American administration has ever done that.

Nope, and that's one of the things I didn't like about President Obama's administration. :sigh:

tulc(genocide is genocide, and it's something that needs/ed to be acknowledged)

tulc · Dec 17, 2019

redleghunter said:
Updated - The Obameter: Recognize the Armenian genocide

That's one of the reasons I like Fact-checking U.S. politics | PolitiFact everyone is held responsible for the good or the bad they do. :oldthumbsup:

tulc(truth matters)

usexpat97 · Dec 17, 2019

Why do we care? Must everything be blessed by the Trump hand-wave in order to be true?

JackRT · Dec 17, 2019

A great many Americans do not yet recognize the attempted genocide of the indigenous peoples of their own nation.

usexpat97 · Dec 17, 2019

JackRT said:
A great many Americans do not yet recognize the attempted genocide of the indigenous peoples of their own nation.

Canada is not exactly innocent.

thecolorsblend · Dec 17, 2019

JackRT said:
A great many Americans do not yet recognize the attempted genocide of the indigenous peoples of their own nation.

Did you mean to write "indigenous peoplekind"?

JackRT · Dec 17, 2019

usexpat97 said:
Canada is not exactly innocent.

That is true.

JackRT · Dec 17, 2019

thecolorsblend said:
peoplekind

Not quite sure what that is.

Silverback · Dec 17, 2019

tulc said:
Trump administration won't call mass killing of Armenians a genocide despite congressional resolutions - CNNPolitics

tulc(thought this was interesting)

I

Every administration since genocide became a word has refused, nothing new here.

Basil the Great · Dec 17, 2019

redleghunter said:
And Obama ran in 2008 saying he would call it genocide and in two terms did not:

Updated - The Obameter: Recognize the Armenian genocide

He also campaigned in the Hispanic communities and told them that he would introduce an immigration reform bill within his first year. How did that pledge end up?

tulc · Dec 17, 2019

Basil the Great said:
He also campaigned in the Hispanic communities and told them that he would introduce an immigration reform bill within his first year. How did that pledge end up?

Updated - The Obameter: Introduce a comprehensive immigration bill in the first year
Not so much. :wave:

tulc(isn't sure why the interest in subjects not about the OP has come up) :scratch:

tulc · Dec 17, 2019

Silverback said:
I

Every administration since genocide became a word has refused, nothing new here.

Very true. But I don't find it hard to understand why the very same President who stabbed American allies in the back to support Turkey wouldn't be interested in addressing another atrocity perpetrated by the same country.
tulc(so yeah...nothing to see here that we haven't already seen this administration do before) :sigh:

redleghunter · Dec 18, 2019

JackRT said:
A great many Americans do not yet recognize the attempted genocide of the indigenous peoples of their own nation.

Good point.

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