Paul's understanding of Clean and Unclean food

And obviously -- 1 Cor 10 says all of the OT is for Christians.

Bob S said:

The reason Noah knew clean from unclean had to do with the sacrificial system

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Pure speculation

Paul's understanding? What Paul wrote in the NT is God breathed!

So?
Paul and other Ekklesia have the mind of Christ and understand as the Father grants this.
Ekklesia today also, little children, to them Yahuweh the Heavenly Father REVEALS everything concerning Salvation in this life and in the next.
This is the Father's good pleasure so to do.
Thus little children understand also, what is hidden from the educated,
as Jesus says the Father is well pleased to do.

yeshuaslavejeff said:

So?
Paul and other Ekklesia have the mind of Christ and understand as the Father grants this.
Ekklesia today also, little children, to them Yahuweh the Heavenly Father REVEALS everything concerning Salvation in this life and in the next.
This is the Father's good pleasure so to do.
Thus little children understand also, what is hidden from the educated,
as Jesus says the Father is well pleased to do.

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Paul wrote more Books in the Bible than anyone. I'll stick with Paul.

kcnalp said:

Paul wrote more Books in the Bible than anyone. I'll stick with Paul.

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Better also to stick with Jesus. (did ANYONE say not to believe Scripture, Yahuweh Breathed through the apostle Paul or the others?)

kcnalp said:

Paul's understanding? What Paul wrote in the NT is God breathed!

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Amen - we do not worship Moses or Paul. We worship God - and God is the source for all scripture 2 Tim 3:16, 2 Peter 1:19-21

yeshuaslavejeff said:

Better also to stick with Jesus. (did ANYONE say not to believe Scripture, Yahuweh Breathed through the apostle Paul or the others?)

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Jesus and Paul are in complete agreement. Christians are not under the Law of Moses.

Galatians 3:10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse; for it is written, "Cursed is everyone who does not continue in all things which are written in the book of the law, to do them."

Gal 4:21 Tell me, you who want to be under the law, are you not aware of what the law says? ........

Paul was referring to the laws of the Sinai covenant, all of them. I certainly would not want to be under all of those laws. I live under a better covenant, the one that has better promises. I live by The Royal Law of Love. Below John sums up perfectly how Christians know we are serving Jesus the way He wants. Paul tells us we are not saved by works of the laws of the Sinai covenant yet we hear from the prophet Adventists put their trust in:
It means eternal salvation to keep the Sabbath holy unto the Lord. God says: "Them that honor Me I will honor." {6T 356.4}

1Jn3:19 This is how we know that we belong to the truth and how we set our hearts at rest in his presence: 20 if our hearts condemn us, we know that God is greater than our hearts, and he knows everything. 21 Dear friends, if our hearts do not condemn us, we have confidence before God 22 and receive from him anything we ask, because we keep his commands and do what pleases him. 23 And this is his command: to believe in the name of his Son, Jesus Christ, and to love one another as he commanded us. 24 The one who keeps God’s commands lives in him, and he in them. And this is how we know that he lives in us: we know it by the Spirit he gave us.

God's commands to Christians are to believe in Jesus and to love others just as Jesus loves us. Christianity is not about keeping ritual days, food laws and tithing laws of a covenant that is no longer binding on anyone.

As has been pointed out:
Act_10:28 And he said unto them, Ye know how that it is an unlawful thing for a man that is a Jew to keep company, or come unto one of another nation; but God hath shewed me that I should not call any man common or unclean.

Act 10:15 And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.
Act 10:16 This was done thrice: and the vessel was received up again into heaven.
Act 10:17 Now while Peter doubted in himself what this vision which he had seen should mean, behold, the men which were sent from Cornelius had made enquiry for Simon's house, and stood before the gate,

Peter did not understand what the vision meant---it is not clear to him--until he meets Cornelius. In the vision, God was not calling unclean animals clean---God was telling Paul that the Gentiles are not unclean to God and the Holy Spirit and message of salvation is for all men---it always was, but the Jew had become self-righteous and smug. It was always intended for the Jew to be a light to the world and spread God's message. In the Exodus there was a multitude---mixed--that also came and they were to be obedient to God's laws also. They became exclusive instead of inclusive.

There is not one instance where God, having called anything an abomination to Him,ever changed His mind about it. What God calls unclean, stays unclean. Paul's vision was about mankind---and God never called man an abomination nor unclean---He called what they did an abomination or unclean. His salvation has always been for all, they just have to accept it.

Lulav said:

Everything, even when he says it isn't from God?

• 1 Cor. 7:12, "But to the rest I say, not the Lord, that if any brother has a wife who is an unbeliever, and she consents to live with him, let him not send her away."
• 1 Cor. 7:25, "Now concerning virgins I have no command of the Lord, but I give an opinion as one who by the mercy of the Lord is trustworthy."
• 2 Cor. 11:17, "That which I am speaking, I am not speaking as the Lord would, but as in foolishness, in this confidence of boasting."

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That's not what Paul was saying.

Paul was distinguishing between what Jesus explicitly commanded about divorce between believers (Matthew 19) and what he was teaching as an apostle of Jesus about marriage situations that Jesus did not explicitly speak of, such as marriages of believers to unbelievers.

Paul had also said:
"...I give an opinion as one who by the mercy of the Lord is trustworthy....and I think that I too have the Spirit of God." -- 1 Corinthians 7

Paul emphasized that he was speaking from the Holy Spirit.

It remains true that all scripture is God-breathed, whether it's printed in red letters or not.

Lulav said:

Everything, even when he says it isn't from God?

• 1 Cor. 7:12, "But to the rest I say, not the Lord, that if any brother has a wife who is an unbeliever, and she consents to live with him, let him not send her away."
• 1 Cor. 7:25, "Now concerning virgins I have no command of the Lord, but I give an opinion as one who by the mercy of the Lord is trustworthy."
• 2 Cor. 11:17, "That which I am speaking, I am not speaking as the Lord would, but as in foolishness, in this confidence of boasting."

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David asked Nathan if he should build the temple.. It sounded good to Nathan so he said "go ahead".

But God had selected Nathan as an inspired prophet/messenger of God - and God was not going to let that stand because in this case it was not his will - so he corrected Nathan and Nathan had to go back to David and say "oops! Turns out I was wrong - God corrected me".

2 Cor 11
I hope you will put up with me in a little foolishness. Yes, please put up with me! 2 I am jealous for you with a godly jealousy. I promised you to one husband, to Christ, so that I might present you as a pure virgin to him.

12 But what I am doing I will continue to do, so that I may cut off opportunity from those who desire an opportunity to be regarded just as we are in the matter about which they are boasting. 13 For such men are false apostles, deceitful workers, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. 14 No wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. 15 Therefore it is not surprising if his servants also disguise themselves as servants of righteousness, whose end will be according to their deeds.

16 Again I say, let no one think me foolish; but if you do, receive me even as foolish, so that I also may boast a little. 17 What I am saying, I am not saying as the Lord would, but as in foolishness, in this confidence of boasting. 18 Since many boast according to the flesh, I will boast also. 19 For you, being so wise, tolerate the foolish gladly. 20 For you tolerate it if anyone enslaves you, anyone devours you, anyone takes advantage of you, anyone exalts himself, anyone hits you in the face. 21 To my shame I must say that we have been weak by comparison.

But in whatever respect anyone else is bold—I speak in foolishness—I am just as bold myself. 22 Are they Hebrews? So am I. Are they Israelites? So am I. Are they descendants of Abraham? So am I. 23 Are they servants of Christ?—I speak as if insane—I more so; in far more labors, in far more imprisonments, beaten times without number, often in danger of death. 24 Five times I received from the Jews thirty-nine lashes. 25 Three times I was beaten with rods, once I was stoned, three times I was shipwrecked, a night and a day I have spent in the deep. 26 I have been on frequent journeys, in dangers from rivers, dangers from robbers, dangers from my countrymen, dangers from the Gentiles, dangers in the city, dangers in the wilderness, dangers on the sea, dangers among false brethren; 27 I have been in labor and hardship, through many sleepless nights, in hunger and thirst, often without food, in cold and exposure. 28 Apart from such external things, there is the daily pressure on me of concern for all the churches. 29 Who is weak without my being weak? Who is led into sin without my intense concern?

30 If I have to boast, I will boast of what pertains to my weakness. 31 The God and Father of the Lord Jesus, He who is blessed forever, knows that I am not lying.

--- in that case Paul is illustrating a point.

RDKirk said:

It remains true that all scripture is God-breathed, whether it's printed in red letters or not.

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True - because even though Job 1 and 2 quote Satan as does Matthew 4 and Luke 4 -- yet it is God that revealed that discussion to Moses and to Mathew.