Justice Dept. Report Debunks Pres. Trump’s Claim Of A Witch Hunt Against Him

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There's still some agitation and dissent within the republican ranks whether to find a way to spin the report to make it look otherwise, or to simply claim that the Justice Department is lying.

Presently, it looks like they're trying a little of both.
 
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Which justice dept report? The IG report specially on the FISA applications? It read exactly like the Comey memo on Hillary’s illegal server. It laid out people did things wrong, abused the process but were somehow not “guilty” of any crime. That is why Durham made the statement he did saying he did not agree with some of the more serious findings.
 
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Which justice dept report? The IG report specially on the FISA applications?

It confirmed that there was no political purpose, that the investigation was entirely justified, and that Trump just made up the story that his campaign was being spied on.

It read exactly like the Comey memo on Hillary’s illegal server. It laid out people did things wrong, abused the process but were somehow not “guilty” of any crime.

No. There is at least one person who could be in big trouble. It just didn't involve political intent or Trump's false claims of being spied on.

That is why Durham made the statement he did saying he did not agree with some of the more serious findings.

Durham was appointed for political purposes by Trump's AG, so that's to be expected. The IG is purposely removed from that kind of pressure, and so he was able to give an accurate report.
 
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It confirmed that there was no political purpose, that the investigation was entirely justified, and that Trump just made up the story that his campaign was being spied on.
The opinion of Horowitz is there was no political motivation but he obtained that information from the testimony of persons accused of such partisanship. The Durham investigation has a wider net on this matter.

And if you read the report it refutes many of the lies of Adam Schiff over the past three years.
 
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No. There is at least one person who could be in big trouble. It just didn't involve political intent or Trump's false claims of being spied on.
Words mean different things in the Beltway Humpty Dumpty world. The sitting government of the US and its intelligence agencies conducted surveillance using counter intelligence means on a political campaign. For those of us who have been involved with counter intelligence surveillance, that is a sophisticated way of saying “spying.”

Consider the outrage if the Bush administration conducted a counter intelligence campaign (spying) on the Obama campaign. Would we not want then candidate Obama to know if there were questionable personnel in his campaign? Was it not the right measure for the FBI to inform Senator Feinstein of the Chinese spy under her employment for 20 years?

But because it’s Trump it’s ok to conduct surveillance of the entire lot of the campaign. Using an uncorroborated dossier. And withholding exculpatory evidence with regards to Carter Paige.
 
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Durham was appointed for political purposes by Trump's AG, so that's to be expected. The AG is purposely removed from that kind of pressure, and so he was able to give an accurate report.
No Durham who is a career civil servant serving outside the political Beltway of DC was given the charter to investigate the abuse of government, specifically the pre-FISA surveillance of the Trump campaign and the means used against a political campaign.
 
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...anyone else getting a "BENGHAZI!!" deja vu feeling? You know, "We're going to keep investigating this exact same thing until we find out the exact same things we learned the last 7 times we investigated this exact same thing!" :mad:
tulc(is just curious) :sorry:
 
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The opinion of Horowitz is there was no political motivation but he obtained that information from the testimony of persons accused of such partisanship.

Trump accused everyone of partisanship. But the non-partisan investigation turned up no spying on the Trump campaign, and no partisan intent in the investigation.

The Durham investigation has a wider net on this matter.

That is, a partisan mission to somehow exonerate Trump and dig up anything that might show the IG was lying. So it seems the republican talking points have abandoned spinning the report, and have decided to accuse the IG of dishonesty.

And if you read the report it refutes many of the lies of Adam Schiff over the past three years.

The fact that no one has been able to name one, is an important clue. But the defense "yes, Trump committed crimes, but "Adam is a poopy-head, so Trump is innocent", doesn't seem like a very good strategy to me.
 
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