Judgement

AservantofGodandthelordJC · Dec 7, 2019

topher694 said:
You know, we once had a guy walk into our church during a staff meeting claiming to be the "resurrected Apostle John". This appeared to be based solely on the fact that his name was also John. He seemed to be looking for us to confirm this for him. Which we did not. Instead we said we could pray with him to get him set free. After some incomprehensible chatter he agreed to let us pray for him. So we started by saying "in the name of Jesus". At this point he got very upset and began to yell, "In the name of WHOOOO?" This was the point we kindly told him we had to go and therefore so did he... Clearly "Resurrected Apostle John" had some things he was struggling with, but he did not want to face them.

You remind me of him. I truly hope you find some healing.

There are many fakes. It confuses me how the bible and way of God makes so much perfect logical sense to me. Yet there is so much resistance when trying to explain it. I believe its because you don't want to take responsibility for yourself, you want to believe in human constructed fantasy yet that is how things work in reality. Even the bible describes everything I say yet there's just some weird cult like mentality which makes people think they know God better than God. Like scientists labeling theory as true without any proof. Then when one comes a long and says 'this is what you must do for proof' they say, 'no the theory is already correct it needs no proof.'

Saying I'm wrong is like saying the sun isn't hot, eternity is changeless.

topher694 · Dec 7, 2019

AservantofGodandthelordJC said:
There are many fakes. It confuses me how the bible and way of God makes so much perfect logical sense to me. Yet there is so much resistance when trying to explain it. I believe its because you don't want to take responsibility for yourself, you want to believe in a human constructed fantasy, yet that is how things work in reality.

Saying I'm wrong is like saying the sun isn't hot, eternity is changeless.

I'm still not sure this is the correct forum for this, but since we've already started....

The sun is hot, and you are still wrong. It is becoming clearer by the post that you know little to nothing about the prophetic. One is not a prophet simply because he calls himself one. And making bold authoritative sounding claims doesn't make it true either. The Bible says the way you know a prophet is by their fruit, so what's your fruit? So far all I've seen is vast amounts of pride and statements that do not line up with scripture. Who have you helped with this prophetic gift of yours?

AservantofGodandthelordJC · Dec 7, 2019

topher694 said:
I'm still not sure this is the correct forum for this, but since we've already started....

The sun is hot, and you are still wrong. It is becoming clearer by the post that you know little to nothing about the prophetic. One is not a prophet simply because he calls himself one. And making bold authoritative sounding claims doesn't make it true either. The Bible says the way you know a prophet is by their fruit, so what's your fruit? So far all I've seen is vast amounts of pride and statements that do not line up with scripture. Who have you helped with this prophetic gift of yours?

All that you know is wrong, so how can you tell right from wrong when you only know one side? Everything I say pertaining to the Truth is all over scripture because its describing the exact same thing. No one helped me, I basically just started with faith alone and refused to believe anything blindly.

The point is entering into heaven while alive is much more constructive than dieing first but takes the same effort.

topher694 · Dec 7, 2019

AservantofGodandthelordJC said:
All that you know is wrong, so how can you tell right from wrong when you only know one side? Everything I say pertaining to the Truth is all over scripture because its describing the exact same thing. No one helped me, I basically just started with faith alone and refused to believe anything blindly.

OR all you know is wrong and you only know one side, your side. If you refuse to believe anything blindly, then you should refuse to blindly believe that you are right, yet that is what seems to be happening.

AservantofGodandthelordJC · Dec 8, 2019

topher694 said:
OR all you know is wrong and you only know one side, your side. If you refuse to believe anything blindly, then you should refuse to blindly believe that you are right, yet that is what seems to be happening.

I'm not blind though, I have had visions.

The problem is that sin wants to and thinks it is capable of entering heaven. Heaven is far superior to anything that you can tell yourself. It is alien to you. Sin's desire to exist is what hell is.

topher694 · Dec 8, 2019

AservantofGodandthelordJC said:
I'm not blind though, I have had visions.

The problem is that sin wants to and thinks it is capable of entering heaven. Heaven is far superior to anything that you can tell yourself. It is alien to you. Sin's desire to exist is what hell is.

Show me your fruit. So far I've seen none.

AservantofGodandthelordJC · Dec 8, 2019

topher694 said:
Show me your fruit. So far I've seen none.

It's not mine, it's God's.

topher694 · Dec 8, 2019

AservantofGodandthelordJC said:
It's not mine, it's God's.

Jesus said we would know if prophets are true or false from their fruit. Where's your fruit?

AservantofGodandthelordJC · Dec 9, 2019

topher694 said:
Jesus said we would know if prophets are true or false from their fruit. Where's your fruit?

Fruit simply refers to right and wrong.

" 'For a good tree bringeth not forth corrupt fruit; neither doth a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. For every tree is known by his own fruit. For of thorns men do not gather figs, nor of a bramble bush gather they grapes. A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh' " Luke 6:35-45

topher694 · Dec 9, 2019

AservantofGodandthelordJC said:
Fruit simply refers to right and wrong.

" 'For a good tree bringeth not forth corrupt fruit; neither doth a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. For every tree is known by his own fruit. For of thorns men do not gather figs, nor of a bramble bush gather they grapes. A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh' " Luke 6:35-45

So, I'm taking this continued deflection as a no. No, you don't have any fruit to show, only empty words.

AservantofGodandthelordJC · Dec 9, 2019

topher694 said:
So, I'm taking this continued deflection as a no. No, you don't have any fruit to show, only empty words.

The empty words here are not mine. I don't think even you know what you're asking for.

We are very small compared to God. You have to submit to the fact that you are wrong until you're undoubtedly right. You have to follow His laws instead of your own.

topher694 · Dec 9, 2019

AservantofGodandthelordJC said:
The empty words here are not mine. I don't think even you know what you're asking for.

We are very small compared to God. You have to submit to the fact that you are wrong until you're undoubtedly right. You have to follow His laws instead of your own.

I could make it easier for you. Who have you helped in your capacity as a prophet?

What I see is: you are following your own laws, making up your own scripture, and spouting empty words while putting down anyone who disagrees with you. That is not how a prophet operates. You do have fruit, but not the good kind.

AservantofGodandthelordJC · Dec 9, 2019

topher694 said:
I could make it easier for you. Who have you helped in your capacity as a prophet?

What I see is: you are following your own laws, making up your own scripture, and spouting empty words while putting down anyone who disagrees with you. That is not how a prophet operates. You do have fruit, but not the good kind.

I have helped everyone who has chosen forgiveness over judgement even just once.

topher694 · Dec 9, 2019

AservantofGodandthelordJC said:
I have helped everyone who has chosen forgiveness over judgement even just once.

FreeinChrist · Dec 10, 2019

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