Are the Richard Dawkins ideas wrecking the world economy????

yeshuaslavejeff · Dec 6, 2019

DennisTate said:
Strangely enough... it may be easier for Atheists and Agnostics to begin to see
The Ancient of Days the Father..... .and the Ancient of Days the Holy Spirit and
the Word - Logos as scientists, inventors and engineers , (composed of fundamental or nearly fundamental energy, Super Strings and Super Waves / Super Energetic matter)..... than it is for "the children of light" to begin to think of The Trinity in this manner??????

deception is all in the world and the ways of the world and the wisdom and the knowledge of the world,
all leading to worshiping the creation, INSTEAD
of the
CREATOR!

None of that gobblygook is SPIRIT, nor SPIRITUAL , nor TRUTH in CHRIST JESUS, but is all
to deceive the unwary....

DennisTate · Dec 6, 2019

yeshuaslavejeff said:
deception is all in the world and the ways of the world and the wisdom and the knowledge of the world,
all leading to worshiping the creation, INSTEAD
of the
CREATOR!

None of that gobblygook is SPIRIT, nor SPIRITUAL , nor TRUTH in CHRIST JESUS, but is all
to deceive the unwary....

But.... Satan is so good at what he does that FEAR OF BEING DECEIVED..... sets us up to be deceived in other ways........
that could be even more serious????!

One of the worst idea ever put out there is the idea that the Messianic Jewish community of the first and second century were somehow "sealing Jewish souls". I am certain from what I know of history that Rabbi Akiva got into some variation of this idea that is still around............

..... but that is certainly not what Messiah Yeshua - Jesus and / or Cephas - Peter and / or the Apostle Paul intended to teach his disciples to do.

yeshuaslavejeff · Dec 6, 2019

DennisTate said:
But.... Satan is so good at what he does that FEAR OF BEING DECEIVED..... sets us up to be deceived in other ways........
that could be even more serious????!

Serious?
More serious?
Walking in darkness is serious.
Dying in darkness is more serious.

Even little children who resist the devil - the devil FLEES !

SO RESIST THE DEVIL! Stop believing him!!

DennisTate · Dec 6, 2019

Elisha's Bear said:
The fact that ndes sometimes have correlations to reality lends them no authority or utility in Christian faith and practice whatsoever. Let's just go ahead and have that stated plainly. And I concur with those who suggest that the very early formation of this thread appears to be a thinly-veiled exercise in subterfuge.

Thank you for commenting but I disagree and see the near death experience account of little Colton Burpo as recorded by his dad, Pastor Todd Burpo as
a testimony with the power to bring tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands.... if not millions of people worldwide toward the time of their acceptance of Messiah Yeshua - Jesus as their personal Savior and Messiah.

The Colton Burpo testimony of heaven?

yeshuaslavejeff · Dec 6, 2019

DennisTate said:
Thank you for commenting but I disagree and see the near death experience account of little Colton Burpo as recorded by his dad, Pastor Todd Burpo as
a testimony with the power to bring tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands.... if not millions of people worldwide toward the time of their acceptance of Messiah Yeshua - Jesus as their personal Savior and Messiah.

i.e. emotional blackmail - "feelings" that deceive. (deceive millions?) ? deceived multitudes....

One tickled ears, two tickled ears, a million tickled ears......

DennisTate · Dec 6, 2019

yeshuaslavejeff said:
Serious?
More serious?
Walking in darkness is serious.
Dying in darkness is more serious.

Even little children who resist the devil - the devil FLEES !

SO RESIST THE DEVIL! Stop believing him!!

But... becoming a Christian Scribe or Pharisee who is overly obedient to our particular denomination is arguably more dangerous than simply being lukewarm or backslidden due to the power of the anger and jealous for our denomination to offend little ones..... (Atheists or Agnostics who might become Christian but they see us having too much of a Civil War mentality).

Mat 18:6

But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.

yeshuaslavejeff · Dec 6, 2019

DennisTate said:
But... becoming a Christian Scribe or Pharisee who is overly obedient to our particular denomination is arguably more dangerous than simply being lukewarm or backslidden due to the power of the anger and jealous for our denomination to offend little ones..... (Atheists or Agnostics who might become Christian but they see us having too much of a Civil War mentality).

When you try to use Scripture to deceive people, that is very bad. It brings a curse.

Denying Scripture as you do in this post, contradicting what Jesus says, is cause for what ? What does God Say God Does with those who are lukewarm ?

God says it would be better to be HOT OR COLD, NOT LUKEWARM......

If you don't want "them to see" the civil war mentality as the true Scripture exposes the darkness in your posts and in your nde ideas and so forth, STOP.

Don't post errors any more at all.

Then no true believer will be at war against your posts.

DennisTate · Dec 6, 2019

Halbhh said:
Atheism wasn't begun of course by Dawkins. That's worth thinking on for a moment.

Even many who directly saw Christ, in person(!), didn't believe (!)

It's astounding in a way. I was surprised I remember, very long ago, reading those passages. They actually saw Him in person(!), and still many would not believe.

So, you see, Dawkins has little or really nothing at all, 0%, to do with disbelief.

Evil, and mass murders like Stalin's, very much predate Dawkins. He is a tiny effect at most.

So, the causation is in the other direction. Instead of being a cause, Dawkins has been only another instance of the effect of the cause, disbelief being instead from the reasons Christ our Lord Himself instructs us, in the gospels. The various ways He directly tells us how and why disbelief happens. By His Word. (not our theories)

I picked on Richard Dawkins Ph. D. for several reasons.... one of which was that I thought that he actually did a reasonably good job of addressing some important possibilities in his debate with Ben Stein.

Ben Stein vs. Richard Dawkins Interview

In a sense..... some of what Dr. Richard Dawkins said was somewhat more well informed than what some of what Ben Stein said..............?????

In my opinion..... if a Christian or Jew believes in the book of Genesis... .we might tend to be somewhat open to the belief in aliens with high levels of technology.

In my opinion... Dr. Dawkins would do himself a favour if he began to address the possibility of extra-dimensional alien life forms...... if he did.... .he could probably write another best seller and make himself some serious bucks......... which...........
could also begin an improvement in ATheist vs Theist relations???

SLP · Dec 6, 2019

DennisTate said:
My theory is that fundamental or nearly fundamental energy would exist from something like infinite time in the past..... and would always be moving and in a sense obeying The Law of Complexity Consciousness.... and therefore continually becoming somewhat more Complex!

That does not sound anything like an actual 'theory.'

yeshuaslavejeff · Dec 6, 2019

DennisTate said:
I picked on Richard Dawkins Ph. D. for several reasons.... one of which was that I thought that he actually did a reasonably good job of addressing some important possibilities in his debate with Ben Stein.

Why post anti-christ debates ? Nothing Christ=like, nothing originating from the Father in heaven, no message from the Father, no good thing, comes from that.

SLP · Dec 6, 2019

DennisTate said:
Heh, heh, heh..... diabolical laughter in the background!

Atheists tend to be a bright bunch of people..... they eventually will catch onto the rather obvious connection.......

1. There are seven hundred and ten trillion dollars in the world's Derivatives market that CIA economist Jim Rickards back in 2014 felt was vulnerable to a possible one hundred trillion dollar devaluation.

2. In 1973 Pastor David Wilkerson made a prediction that in theory could be used to pay off the USA and Canadian national debt and set the stage for us to operate in the "black" rather than in the "red" as we have been doing for centuries?

The key to setting all of this in motion could perhaps be looking at the pro-life question from another angle?????

Did going bankrupt in 1991 prepare Donald Trump for the office of President?

Ah, so you are a CONSPIRACY theorist.

Say no more.

SLP · Dec 6, 2019

-57 said:
Tell that to the court house wall where the ten commandments use to hang.

Oh, you mean where zealots ignored the Constitution and attempted to force their silly beliefs on others in a government building?

Bob Carabbio · Dec 6, 2019

DennisTate said:
Dogmatic Atheism that resembles a religion in some strange ways tends to have the result of human life being assigned a very low value.

Atheism is just as much a religion as any other religious system is.

DennisTate · Dec 6, 2019

SLP said:
Ah, so you are a CONSPIRACY theorist.

Say no more.

Yes I am...... but I am a noisy one..... so I am unlikely to obey your admonition to say no more.... but at least you are free to ignore me totally and completely.

I am ninety nine percent that you could not prove this to be an illogical conspiracy because this is all astonishingly simple mathematics. Compound interest over time is a pretty simple idea.

HOW PIERRE TRUDEAU TURNED US INTO DEBT SLAVES

DennisTate · Dec 6, 2019

Bob Carabbio said:
Atheism is just as much a religion as any other religious system is.

I have to agree.......
a similar segment of the population of Atheists become Crusaders who use the constitution of their homelands to silence any disagreement with their ideas.

tampasteve · Dec 6, 2019

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Are the Richard Dawkins ideas wrecking the world economy????

Are we biased against non-carbon based life forms/ intelligences / Intelligence?

No

Yes

Maybe????? I will consider and research this further...

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