Is Calvinism Just?
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And if he doesn’t elect someone else who cannot attain his election?? Don’t you see that is unjust?
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Not according to the Bible. It actually reads like God was testing him. God never says, “Your obedience was inevitable” anywhere.
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According to the above, God didn’t ordain them to so it’s his fault. Unjust of him!
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Well let’s look at the Bible if we want to learn his just ways. He looks into the books of the deeds of a life including the Lambs book of life. That’s the criteria he says he uses.
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I’m not here to debate that I’m just here to address the topic of the thread. We can go on debating theology and scripture interpretations for another 5 centuries and still not make any progress. Let’s just stick to the topic Is God’s judgement of the unelected unjust according to Calvin’s theology? If God’s judgement is unjust according to Calvin’s theology then we must conclude that Calvin’s interpretations are incorrect.
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According to Calvin’s doctrines of total depravity and unconditional grace those who are not elected are completely incapable of repentance and believing in Christ furthermore they are also incapable of attaining election by any means. Therefore for the unelected, God’s expectations are completely impossible to accomplish. So is God’s judgment and punishment of eternal suffering in the lake of fire a just punishment for failure to meet His impossible expectations?
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Rick answered my question to you and I replayed in post 194, here Is Calvinism Just 194?
I haven't received a response yet, so please read it. and explain how the Calviniat view is just? Or how anyone can be left out of the running for salvation?
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Of course the scriptures will say that God is just, because they are not Calvinist theology. By the intended interpretation of scripture God is just because He made a way for everyone to be saved. People simply condemn themselves by not accepting His gift of grace.
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No, Gods judgement is not unjust in the judgement of the reprobate. Their sin earns them this judgement. Non Calvinist seem to believe mercy and grace is earned or entitled to them in some way. This is the fallacy in free will theology. It lacks an understanding of their sinful condition and gives evidence of no repentance at all. A perverted view of grace! Romans 9 starting with vs 14 answers your question. It’s a question raised by all who deem God unjust for showing mercy on some and not all. Calvins God is the God of scriptures. So your fight is against God Himself
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Agree.
It's starting to look like Calvinism is just the same old OSAS topped with a different, artificially sweetened flavor. Why people choose to follow these crackpots (men) is beyond me, when it's just another twisted version of the Gospel with intent to get everyone to believe we are destined for heaven no matter what we do.
These several false doctrines always boil down to the same exact thing (Huge clue, folks. technically we can live it up here in spite of what the bible states, and still go to heaven. An easier way for those who don't love God/Christ enough to bother taking them seriously to the point of being obedient to them. So instead they constantly try to reinforce their belief in how they can get to heaven the easy way by trying to get others to buy it/agree with them.
When will people put two and two together, and realize what they are doing and why they are doing it, especially when they are completely aware of Satan's tricks, and that this is exactly like something he would do?
WAKE UP PEOPLE, CAN'T YOU SEE THIS IS JUST WHAT SATAN WANTS YOU BELIEVE! YOU ARE BEING PLAYED!
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