Young people are growing less tolerant of LGBTQ individuals

That's because the alphabet people are threatening every aspect of our lives over nonsensical distortions of reality. First they just wanted to be accepted and before we knew it they're actively targeting people who having opposing views (i.e. conservative Christians) and trying to censor free speech, "de-platform", and shut down people's livelihoods. Some are about two inches away from physical violence against us and some already have (look at Antifa in Portland, or that purple haired SJW hair stylist in Toronto who roundhouse kicked a pro-life advocate a while back).

It was never about tolerance or acceptance. It's about revenge and subjugation.

People are getting tired of the Alphabet brown shirts all across the spectrum

Interesting news it would seem.

The only thing I can figure is that the LGBTQ community was originally rejected and marginalized in America based on the fact that most people knew nothing about them.

Then they were accepted based on the fact that most people knew nothing about them.

Now they're being somewhat rejected and somewhat marginalized again... because most people know quite a bit about them. This is an informed decision and I don't think social engineering will fix things this time.

tl;dr- Good news!

thecolorsblend said:

The only thing I can figure is that the LGBTQ community was originally rejected and marginalized in America based on the fact that most people knew nothing about them.

Then they were accepted based on the fact that most people knew nothing about them.

Now they're being somewhat rejected and somewhat marginalized again... because most people know quite a bit about them. This is an informed decision and I don't think social engineering will fix things this time.

tl;dr- Good news!

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That’s a very astute observation, well said.

I have many friends in the community. I was the band director for years for a live Halloween production of Rocky Horror that supported many smaller AIDS hospices. Most of the cast and crew were LGBT. They are just people, and for the most part just want to be treated as such.

Although I have decided to no longer delve into my past issues (many of you know my story) due to some of that I lead a completely celibate and asexual life style. Since i do not have a "boyfriend" many people have come to the conclusion that I am a lesbian.

I do not bother to correct these people so in some cases I am seen as part of that community.

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Most of the cast and crew were LGBT. They are just people, and for the most part just want to be treated as such.

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I have met quite a few LGBT over the years. In some cases, what you say is quite true in my experience.

In other cases, however, what they consider to be normal behavior and what middle America considers normal behavior is quite different. I am not just talking about their choice of romantic partner. I mean behaviors, customs and even fashion.

"Drag queen story hour" may not necessarily be representative of the entire LGBT community. But there is no denying that "drag queen story hour" isn't part and parcel of the LGBT community and a matter of serious concern for most regular people.

Chrystal-J said:

Young people are growing less tolerant of LGBTQ individuals, a jarring turn for a generation traditionally considered embracing and open, a survey released Monday shows.

The number of Americans 18 to 34 who are comfortable interacting with LGBTQ people slipped from 53% in 2017 to 45% in 2018 – the only age group to show a decline, according to the annual Accelerating Acceptance report. And that is down from 63% in 2016.

Driving the dilution of acceptance are young women whose overall comfort levels plunged from 64% in 2017 to 52% in 2018, says the survey conducted by The Harris Poll on behalf of LGBTQ advocacy group GLAAD.

Link: LGBTQ acceptance among young people is on the decline: GLAAD survey

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Interesting thread, Chrystal.
This provides some hope for the future

sylverpiano said:

I have many friends in the community. I was the band director for years for a live Halloween production of Rocky Horror that supported many smaller AIDS hospices. Most of the cast and crew were LGBT. They are just people, and for the most part just want to be treated as such.

Although I have decided to no longer delve into my past issues (many of you know my story) due to some of that I lead a completely celibate and asexual life style. Since i do not have a "boyfriend" many people have come to the conclusion that I am a lesbian.

I do not bother to correct these people so in some cases I am seen as part of that community.

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I'm not going to get into the discussion because I'm not Catholic, but I just wanted to add that I also get the lesbian conclusion pinned onto me for the same reasons, and there have been times when this false assumption has seriously harmed me. So yes, I suppose I'm in a sense part of the LGBT community too despite having no inclinations towards other females whatsoever, so not even slightly bisexual. Anyway, you're not alone.

Chrystal-J said:

I think people are getting tired of the "in your face" way of advocating. Also, suing every Christian organization into extinction. They're aggressive way of operating can only be called bullying and it needs to stop.

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Yes, they going to far, and I think people are beginning to see that now, and they will only continue to try and go and take it even farther, and farther, and then even farther, etc...

The latest one I saw, is that Santa shouldn't be male anymore, that He should be "gender neutral", and that's just only one example, and there are many, many others, and their trying to do it with "everything" now, and people are beginning to think that it's "going to far" I think... They didn't anticipate all of "this" when "this" started, etc...

God Bless!

Many young women I talk to here, in a college town feel that their sex being appropriated by the transgender community. They feel betrayed by a feminist movement that they were told to trust but is selling them out on issues ranging from children to transgender activism.

It's a growing thing that young people, and in particular young women, are becoming very open about. There is a particular anger about appropriation of their gender for sporting purposes.

Chrystal-J said:

I think people are getting tired of the "in your face" way of advocating. Also, suing every Christian organization into extinction. They're aggressive way of operating can only be called bullying and it needs to stop.

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That.

I wonder if Obama championed them in ignorance...?

If he knew of the kinds of things they would be doing "now", doing to the children and in the schools, and to our children right now, and to "his own children", now, etc...? To and in society right now, etc...?

If he fully anticipated these kinds of of things that are happening now, etc...?

If I could, I would ask him how he feels about it "now", and if it's "still the same", etc...?

Or if some of those feelings might have changed just a little bit now maybe, etc...?

And they may or may not have, but I am just curious though...?

Or if they have not, if he ever thinks there will ever come a day where those feelings might change, or whether he thinks there will ever come a day where he will grow or live to regret it/them at all or not, etc...?

Just curious...?

Oh, I am sure that he still fully thinks that they should all have their rights and liberties and freedoms, and to be free from prejudice or persecution, as I'm betting we all do, but I just wonder if he ever thinks, or will ever come to think ever that they are "going too far", or are ever, or will be ever, "taking it too far", etc...?

Anyway,

God Bless!

Neogaia777 said:

I wonder if Obama championed them in ignorance...?

If he knew of the kinds of things they would be doing "now", doing to the children and in the schools, and to our children right now, and to "his own children", now, etc...? To and in society right now, etc...?

If he fully anticipated these kinds of of things that are happening now, etc...?

If I could, I would ask him how he feels about it "now", and if it's "still the same", etc...?

Or if some of those feelings might have changed just a little bit now maybe, etc...?

And they may or may not have, but I am just curious though...?

Or if they have not, if he ever thinks there will ever come a day where those feelings might change, or whether he thinks there will ever come a day where he will grow or live to regret it/them at all or not, etc...?

Just curious...?

Oh, I am sure that he still fully thinks that they should all have their rights and liberties and freedoms, and to be free from prejudice or persecution, as I'm betting we all do, but I just wonder if he ever thinks, or will ever come to think ever that they are "going too far", or are ever, or will be ever, "taking it too far", etc...?

Anyway,

God Bless!

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I think they are clearly just now starting to show now, that "peace and joy and love and happiness, acceptance", etc, and, "everyone all living in perfect peace and harmony and unity together", etc, is not really what they are, or were ever really truly after, etc, to begin with, etc... or is not, or was not ever, "the truly number one thing they were ever really truly after" to begin with, at least, etc...

As another poster already said, it's all about "revenge and subjugation", (and other things, etc), (things very much the "opposite of" love, joy, peace and harmony, unity, etc)...

There are some, or many much, much "darker" and much more "devious" "reasons and/or motivations" behind many of their actions, etc...

I think some are just now starting to see that now, etc... (or at least I hope so, cause that's the truth, etc)...

Now, I'm not saying "all of them" of course, but this does seem to be the case now with "a lot of them", etc... Or at any rate, "all too many of them" now, etc...

Enough to constitute a very dark, and very great serious threat to society if they are not stopped, or no one "puts the brakes on them" now, and right now, etc, or very, very soon in the future, etc...

Anyway,

God Bless!

I hope that everyone who sees this as a positive development is willing to hold to that when the pendulum swings the other back (again) and the generation that comes after Z (not sure what they'll be called, since we'll have run out of alphabet) turns out more liberal or whatever than their parents (Z people). If the kind of cycle that is being described in posts like #5 holds true in the future (and I don't see why it wouldn't), then there's no reason not to expect that to happen.

Also, maybe it's just me but I can't really rejoice in people being less tolerant of each other. For whatever we can say about their ideas, I think everyone here would recognize that all of these LGBTQIALMNO-people are, first and foremost, people, and like all people are prone to getting things anywhere from a little bit to almost entirely wrong, as broken and in need of healing as we all are as a species.

Then again, the point where I tend to see others as being in the right is that it is largely because of the extreme 'activist' wings of these groups that it has become increasingly difficult to separate the people we're talking about from the ideas they're espousing in the first place, which I happen to believe is necessary if anyone is going to have a mature and nuanced viewpoint on anything (no matter where you come down on the liberal-conservative/left-right spectrum). So I can hardly blame young people, who have been raised in this environment where anything short of far left/right saturation is ideological heresy, for not being able to say "Hey, wait a minute...we can probably come up with a way of approaching these people that both respects their inherent dignity and doesn't validate by compulsion their viewpoints and feelings that we think are wrong", so that we can leave the hoary old discussion about phony-baloney 'tolerance', 'being on the right side of history', and other buzzwords/phrases that basically don't mean anything anymore out of it.

That's not the world we're living in right now, unfortunately. I think that hurts everyone much more than a percentage drop in 'tolerance' could ever indicate.

Neogaia777 said:

I wonder if Obama championed them in ignorance...?

If he knew of the kinds of things they would be doing "now", doing to the children and in the schools, and to our children right now, and to "his own children", now, etc...? To and in society right now, etc...?

If he fully anticipated these kinds of of things that are happening now, etc...?

If I could, I would ask him how he feels about it "now", and if it's "still the same", etc...?

Or if some of those feelings might have changed just a little bit now maybe, etc...?

And they may or may not have, but I am just curious though...?

Or if they have not, if he ever thinks there will ever come a day where those feelings might change, or whether he thinks there will ever come a day where he will grow or live to regret it/them at all or not, etc...?

Just curious...?

Oh, I am sure that he still fully thinks that they should all have their rights and liberties and freedoms, and to be free from prejudice or persecution, as I'm betting we all do, but I just wonder if he ever thinks, or will ever come to think ever that they are "going too far", or are ever, or will be ever, "taking it too far", etc...?

Anyway,

God Bless!

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You could ask that of Obama's vice president, who is still in the public sphere. Good Catholic though he claims to be.

It's probably due to a combination of the fact that many of them go out and actively provoke and attack other people just so they can play the victim card, and the fact that the movement is becoming more and more nonsensical. They need to stop trying to force everybody to adopt their ideology and just act like normal people. If they did that then people would just stop caring and that would be de facto acceptance. If they continue their current tactics then the opposition will just continue to grow more and more each day.

Neogaia777 said:

I think they are clearly just now starting to show now, that "peace and joy and love and happiness, acceptance", etc, and, "everyone all living in perfect peace and harmony and unity together", etc, is not really what they are, or were ever really truly after, etc, to begin with, etc... or is not, or was not ever, "the truly number one thing they were ever really truly after" to begin with, at least, etc...

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It is, in some ways, similar to the last "countercultural" movement, which lasted from about 1965 or so to about 1973....back then, it included "free love", "the brotherhood of man", "peace", drugs, and like, totally groovy music, man---can you, like, dig the colors?

We all know how that one turned out. You ended up with riots, buildings being burned down, a small-scale war on police agencies, and college students getting shot by the National Guard. Not exactly the "love and brotherhood" jazz it supposedly started out to be.

The problem with these movements is that they are secular movements, and as such, they don't acknowledge the reality of Original Sin. There will always be wars; there will always be strife and conflict among human beings, because there will always be man's unredeemed sinful nature embedded in his very being.

As a result, these type of utopian ideals all very well and good, but they're doomed to failure, because the only way that man can be enticed to at least try to love his neighbor and move beyond his own baser instincts, is through the redemptive action of Christ. Without that, all the best intentions in the world aren't going to have any base to support them.