BEWARE OF FALSE GOSPELS

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Replacement theology says the Body of Christ (BOC) has replaced physical Israel in God's eyes, thus the book of James, which was directed to the latter, is also directed to the BOC.

Others disagree with RT, and hence keep the BOC and Israel separate.
They are not all Israel who are from Israel...(Rom 9:6)
There are true Israelites, and there is a land of Israel: but they shouldn't be confused with one another.

Who are the true Israelites?
Those who are reborn of God's seed, His sons and daughters.
It doesn't matter which nation they live in, they will all take the lessons of James to heart.
 
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I was being sarcastic... A way of mocking, I'm not getting upset... But, I do apollogize if it's means anything to you...
You might want to think twice before mocking the words of Jesus.
It’s his words you mocked.
It says one of these little ones, not literal child or children, or even literal water, meaning little ones in the faith, and it can also be referring to spiritual drink as well...
When the disciples were discussing who was the greatest among them, Jesus took a child into their midst. Did he also just mean little ones in faith?
But, even if we were to take it all to literally, don't you think a person can be kind or do a simple act of kindness in one instance, and turn around and be very unkind in others or in many other areas or in many other instances...? Do you agree with that or not...? or be a very unkind person most of the time or in general in many other areas or instances, etc...? And I ask if that should not ever matter or not, etc...?
Jesus says such an act of kindness will be remembered by God. I simply take him at his word without adding to it or taking away by or spiritualzing it away.
I think you were taking some kind of personal offense, but whatever...
Im not. Not at all. I just recognize an ad hominem when I see it. That’s all.
I only asked the question, your the one who's taking offense...
I’m not the least offended. But i won’t add to the teaching of Jesus and then try to explain it.
And I only asked you to ask yourself why that is, so...?
But you wrongly think I have attitude I don’t.
 
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Grace Evangelical Society, they're one of those denominations accused of "easy believism". They also preach that repentance, which I believe is a work of the Holy Spirit turning us from our sin (John 16:8-9) does not need to come before salvation. They also teach that you can be saved believing in Jesus without even knowing that Christ died for your sins. And also that sin does not need to be mentioned in the salvation message. Just to name a few of their aberrations, but there are more.
Probably earns the preacher a nice living
 
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They are not all Israel who are from Israel...(Rom 9:6)
There are true Israelites, and there is a land of Israel: but they shouldn't be confused with one another.

Who are the true Israelites?
Those who are reborn of God's seed, His sons and daughters.
It doesn't matter which nation they live in, they will all take the lessons of James to heart.

That was why I said you subscribe to replacement theology. That is fine, many Christians believe in that.
 
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Israel and the Body of Christ remains distinct

1 Corinthians 10:32 Give none offence, neither to the Jews, nor to the Gentiles, nor to the church of God:
Don't you think that some of Israel is in the body of Christ?
Peter, for instance?
 
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Don't you think that some of Israel is in the body of Christ?
Peter, for instance?

I can agree there, the Body of Christ now has no Jew nor Gentile, all who believe in Jesus's death burial resurrection are inside.

I do believe that the original 12, with Matthias replacing Judas, have a special position ruling over the 12 tribes of Israel though. Matthew 19:28
 
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That was why I said you subscribe to replacement theology. That is fine, many Christians believe in that.
What is the name of the theory that insists the people of God fall into two camps, the church and Israel? How do they deal with the fact that the early church was mainly Israel Jews for decades? We’re they true Israel or the church at that point? Which one?
 
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I can agree there, the Body of Christ now has no Jew nor Gentile, all who believe in Jesus's death burial resurrection are inside.

I do believe that the original 12, with Matthias replacing Judas, have a special position ruling over the 12 tribes of Israel though. Matthew 19:28
That’s it? No authority over the church?
 
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What is the name of the theory that insists the people of God fall into two camps, the church and Israel? How do they deal with the fact that the early church was mainly Israel Jews for decades? We’re they true Israel or the church at that point? Which one?

Dispensationalists, many of them believe the Body of Christ only began after Saul was saved. So the early church in Acts 2 is basically Judaism still.
 
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Since I've been preaching the gospel on the internet I’ve stumbled upon a variety of neatly gift-wrapped packages of multiple gospels: crossless gospels, bloodless gospels, false Jesus gospels, mechanical gospels, rewards gospels, lose your salvation gospels, and a VARIETY of dispensational gospels. But no matter how shiny the wrapper, how enticing the fragrance, and how much they tickle the ears, every false gospel is a WORKS GOSPEL! Because any other other gospel is NO GOSPEL AT ALL!!!
So my take after reading here is any teaching that stops you from sinning "boldly" is a false gospel. And taking up own cross is a work gospel, because carrying a cross is a heavy work, and anything involving work is a false gospel. So I see.
 
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So my take after reading here is any teaching that stops you from sinning "boldly" is a false gospel. And taking up own cross is a work gospel, because carrying a cross is a heavy work, and anything involving work is a false gospel. So I see.

1 Corinthians 2:2
For I DETERMINED not to know anything among you except JESUS CHRIST AND HIM CRUCIFIED.

The church that Paul started in Corinth had left the simplicity that is IN CHRIST, and started seeking after rituals, religion, denominations, pagan practices, and things of this world. Paul was frustrated so He gave them several sharp rebukes. All he wanted was "Jesus Christ and Him Crucified" and that was the very thing they failed to deliver.

That's it! Jesus Christ and Him Crucified!! The power of His resurrection is through the message of the cross! Christ in us through His cross!


Religion is man's attempt to get to God. Jesus Christ is God's way to redeem mankind...

Jesus is the way for EVERYTHING! There is no other way to walk in the Spirit but through the life of Christ. And when we rest in His finished work; we rest in the fact that we have been crucified with Christ, and the power of His resurrection is spontaneous through the LAW of the SPIRIT THAT GIVES LIFE!

It if finished, the price has been paid, WE ARE FORGIVEN, our JOY is COMPLETE!! Shout the praises of our forgiveness!! Clean and spotless we stand with NO CONDEMNATION! This is PURE GRACE!!

This kind of forgiveness and power is not found in religion, denominations, or any titles manufactured by the hands of men. NO! This is the sweet aroma of Christ in us through the blessed love story of JESUS CHRIST AND HIM CRUCIFIED! PRAISE the LORD!! WE ARE FREE!!!

Galatians 6:14
But God forbid that I should boast except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world has been crucified to me, and I to the world.
 
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Dispensationalists, many of them believe the Body of Christ only began after Saul was saved. So the early church in Acts 2 is basically Judaism still.
Yes, there are SEVERAL dispensational gospels. Many of them disagree exactly when the church started in Acts, and that is why there are so many. Hyper D (Hyper Dispensationism) also teaches that the gentile church is only subject to the books of Romans through Philemon, and the rest are for Jewish believers. IT'S A MESS!!
 
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Dispensationalists, many of them believe the Body of Christ only began after Saul was saved. So the early church in Acts 2 is basically Judaism still.
Yes I know. They divide the scripture into time zones so they freely disregard bits they don’t like. Paul wrote there is neither jew nor gentile, but one body. Dispensationalism has ruined many a potentially dedicated believer.
 
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Do you really want them to have authority over the rest of us non Jews?
I think the scripture has authority over the believers, alll written by apostles and not written by apostles.
 
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Israel and the Body of Christ remains distinct

1 Corinthians 10:32 Give none offence, neither to the Jews, nor to the Gentiles, nor to the church of God:
Same author wrote there is neither Jew nor Greek. You have a problem there.
 
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I think the scripture has authority over the believers, alll written by apostles and not written by apostles.
AMEN! HALLELUYAH !

ALL SCRIPTURE is GOD'S OWN WORD !
It never changes, ever.

believers? wishy washy mostly..... changeable in 5 minutes !
 
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Same author wrote there is neither Jew nor Greek. You have a problem there.
Time and perspective.

also the same author says "to the JEWS FIRST, then to the gentiles"(greeks) ... and so on in other spots as He Knows......
 
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