Near death experiencer Dean Braxton meets with witches....

yeshuaslavejeff · Nov 24, 2019

Your posted errors, and promoting sinners and false teachers, is not something anyone following Jesus is supposed to do, nor is the body of Christ supposed to sit by quietly and say nothing about that sin.

DennisTate · Nov 24, 2019

yeshuaslavejeff said:
Your posted errors, and promoting sinners and false teachers, is not something anyone following Jesus is supposed to do, nor is the body of Christ supposed to sit by quietly and say nothing about that sin.

That is certainly one possibility..........
and I admit that depending on what is actually fully meant by many, many scriptures you could be correct.... but.......

Here is another possibility:

The Final Quest [English] Rick Joyner

(Rick Joyner, The Final Quest):

The Evil Army

I saw a demonic army so large that it stretched as far as I could see. It was separated into divisions, with each carrying a different banner. The foremost and most powerful divisions were Pride, Self righteousness, Respectability, Selfish Ambition, and Unrighteous Judgment, but the largest of all was Jealousy. The leader of this vast army was the Accuser of the Brethren himself. I knew that there were many more evil divisions beyond my scope of vision, but these were the vanguard of this terrible horde from hell that was now being released against the church.

The weapons carried by this horde had names on them: the swords were named Intimidation; the spears were named Treachery; and their arrows were named Accusations, Gossip, Slander and Faultfinding. Scouts and smaller companies of demons with such names as Rejection, Bitterness, Impatience, Un-forgiveness and Lust were sent in advance of this army to prepare for the main attack. I knew in my heart that the church had never faced anything like this before.

The main assignment of this army was to cause division. It was sent to attack every level of relationship-churches with each other, congregations with their pastors, husbands and wives, children and parents, and even children with each other. The scouts were sent to locate the openings in churches, families or individuals that rejection, bitterness, lust, etc., could exploit and make a larger breech for the divisions that were coming.

The most shocking part of this vision was that this horde was not riding on horses, but on Christians! Most of them were well-dressed, respectable, and had the appearance of being refined and educated. These were Christians who had opened themselves to the powers of darkness to such a degree that the enemy could use them and they would think that they were being used by God. The Accuser knows that a house divided cannot stand, and this army represented his ultimate attempt to bring such complete division to the church that she would completely fall from grace.

The Prisoners
.......

Or.....
Revelation 3

My point is that if I were to say that I had nothing to learn from Mr. Dean Braxton I would be fearful that that would mean I was Laodicean..... thinking that what I already had was better than what he had to teach????

Rev 3:14

¶
And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;

I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.

I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.

Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:

I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.

As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

DennisTate · Nov 24, 2019

Robban said:
Would you say Lazaros from John 11,

that he had an NDE?

Robban.... have you ever had a conversation on Ezekiel 37
relating it to non-linear time?

I bring this up because certain statements in the Christian Bible have terribly offended
many people...... Frankly I got angry over these statements myself.

Back around 1990 I went through a pretty serious theological crisis when I found out that the Soul Sleep theory was in error. I had believed in it pretty firmly since the early '70's. It sure sounded a whole lot more humane than the gospel as presented by Dr. Billy Graham..... that had inspired me to become an Atheist from around 1967 - 1973 until I began to listen to Evangelist Garner Ted Armstrong.

Without Soul Sleep until the resurrection......
the plan of G-d as explained by Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus sounded pretty awful.

Matthew 22:14 "For many are called, but few are chosen."

Matthew 7:13 "Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it."

Matthew 5:28 "But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast itfrom thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.

And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell."

So the possible reality of this hell.... that is so scary that it would be a good idea to take an axe to our right hand....
made the Gospel / Good News..... look a whole lot less good.

Near death experiencer Bob Jones was shown that only about two percent of people in North America can go quickly into the paradise / heaven environment after death.

Bob Jones’ Testimony August 8, 1975 Death Experience

So I looked at that line. It was so horrible and everyone when they came there, they recognized Him. Their eyes got big, and everyone that is going to hell has had a witness in one way or another that there is a God. And everyone of them willingly denied Him. For each 2 in the line that I was in, there was 98 in the other line.

I watched the Lord speak to people that were coming there. And He asked them only one question: “Did you learn to love?” He’s not going to ask you what you did. If you learn to love you are going to do that which is right. Did you learn to love? (3) He would ask them that question and they would say, Yes Lord and He would kiss them right on the lips and embrace them and the double doors of His heart would open and they would go right on in.

My point is that non-linear time.... multiple Ezekiel 37
events..... that perhaps begin from any moment in the past that G-d
wishes to pour out the Holy Spirit in and initiate a whole new time line where
far, far, far, far more people are led to salvation........

then this is one possible way for potential hidden meaning in both the Jewish and the Christian scriptures could become less offensive to witches or those in another religion?

Multiverse Theory and multiple Ezekiel 37 type events.

Robban · Nov 24, 2019

No not much.

"Many who sleep in the dust shall awaken,

some to everlasting life,

and some to ever lasting shame and reproach."

Daniel 12:2.

The dry bones, I say the same almost every winter,

can these dry twigs ever come to life again?

Yep.

The Rebbe would say,
"When a cold, hard heart becomes excited over a G-dly idea,
Is this not an awakening from the dead?"

I will have to read your post again,

DennisTate · Nov 24, 2019

Robban said:
No not much.

"Many who sleep in the dust shall awaken,

some to everlasting life,

and some to ever lasting shame and reproach."

Daniel 12:2.

The dry bones, I say the same almost every winter,

can these dry twigs ever come to life again?

Yep.

The Rebbe would say,
"When a cold, hard heart becomes excited over a G-dly idea,
Is this not an awakening from the dead?"

I will have to read your post again,

Just five minutes ago I ran into an astonishing statement by a Christian near death experiencer.... He stated that the CULTURE of Heaven.... was very, very, very Jewish. This is after the twenty minute mark in this amazing video:

Other Christian near death experiencers came back to report something along the line of this idea as well.

yeshuaslavejeff · Nov 24, 2019

DennisTate said:
That is certainly one possibility..........
and I admit that depending on what is actually fully meant by many, many scriptures you could be correct.... but.......

Here is another possibility:

no. the fear you say of being a laodocian, drove you to error. There is not a possibility of finding the truth by listening to the false teachers you do.

BACK TO SCRIPTURE! ALWAYS. Not family. Not false teachers. Not prosperity gospels nor any other gospel but the one once delivered. SCRIPTURE is the unchangeable standard, and you got led away from Scripture in the things you have posted, frquently.

DennisTate · Nov 24, 2019

yeshuaslavejeff said:
no. the fear you say of being a laodocian, drove you to error. There is not a possibility of finding the truth by listening to the false teachers you do.

BACK TO SCRIPTURE! ALWAYS. Not family. Not false teachers. Not prosperity gospels nor any other gospel but the one once delivered. SCRIPTURE is the unchangeable standard, and you got led away from Scripture in the things you have posted, frquently.

You are correct about going back to scripture but I listened to Mr. Dean Braxton quite a bit today and his explanation of how part of what he saw during his near death experience was explained in Revelation chapters 5 and 8 was brilliant!

There is no way that I could rule out his ideas on this!

yeshuaslavejeff · Nov 24, 2019

DennisTate said:
You are correct about going back to scripture but I listened to Mr. Dean Braxton quite a bit today and his explanation of how part of what he saw during his near death experience was explained in Revelation chapters 5 and 8 was brilliant!

There is no way that I could rule out his ideas on this!

You have made that clear since you gave up learning from Yahuweh to learn from men opposed to the Bible.

Whenever someone turns to Yahuweh, and becomes like a little child, the Father is well pleased to reveal this to them. (they do not serve a man, nor even listen to a false nde or other false experience.

As noted, when the ears are tickled, not listening to Yahuweh, it is hard or impossible to "rule out his ideas" even though they are directly opposed to Yahuweh and contrary to all Scripture.

It is a darkened place, listening to the ones who tickle ears, as written throughout Scripture.
The messages are planned to "feel good", and "look right", to the unwary and the gullible, every day.

The longer someone goes along with the false premise (from years ago, as you stated in a post),
the harder it may be to return to Yahuweh.
But still, it only takes willingness, as Jesus Says, turning to Yahuweh, for HIS KINGDOM is at hand (opposed to the ndes and other false teachers) .....
Willingness to give up the false, to seek ONLY the TRUTH. THen , continuing to seek the TRUTH, and to NOT turn back to the dog's vomit (as put in Scripture),
willnigness to give up everything, to turn to the Father, to be Jesus' permanent disciple for the rest of life.

Jesus never turns anyone away , WHO TURNS TO HIM, who comes to JESUS.

Those who follow the blind, are not coming to JESUS, and they both fall into the pit.

Robban · Nov 24, 2019

DennisTate said:
Just five minutes ago I ran into an astonishing statement by a Christian near death experiencer.... He stated that the CULTURE of Heaven.... was very, very, very Jewish. This is after the twenty minute mark in this amazing video:

Other Christian near death experiencers came back to report something along the line of this idea as well.

I am not sure if this is a good or not so good endevour,

Are they using him?

A lot like Jews for Jesus.

Since I first heard, "NDE" I thought it was wierd.

But, OK, they say they have experienced it.

There was an astonishing telling of the Rebbe after he had a heartfalure, when he had recovered enough to
hold a gathering, he sat at the table,

on the floor above him was an attendant watching one of those blip, blip things that indicate heart beat.

Well, it stopped blipping, so the attendant rushed down stairs fearing the worst,

But look, see, there was the Rebbe talking.

So the Rebbes heart had stopped beating and yet there he was talking.

The heart machine indicated he was dead,

but he was alive as could be.

DennisTate · Nov 26, 2019

Robban said:
I am not sure if this is a good or not so good endevour,

Are they using him?

A lot like Jews for Jesus.

Since I first heard, "NDE" I thought it was wierd.

But, OK, they say they have experienced it.

There was an astonishing telling of the Rebbe after he had a heartfalure, when he had recovered enough to
hold a gathering, he sat at the table,

on the floor above him was an attendant watching one of those blip, blip things that indicate heart beat.

Well, it stopped blipping, so the attendant rushed down stairs fearing the worst,

But look, see, there was the Rebbe talking.

So the Rebbes heart had stopped beating and yet there he was talking.

The heart machine indicated he was dead,

but he was alive as could be.

Wow!!!

Rabbi Alon Anava stated that during the seven minutes while he was dead it seemed like two million years went by..... or even more.

awitch · Nov 26, 2019

Your posted errors, and promoting sinners and false teachers, is not something anyone following Jesus is supposed to do, nor is the body of Christ supposed to sit by quietly and say nothing about that sin

What are you going to do about it?
Stone him to death?

Robban · Nov 26, 2019

DennisTate said:
Wow!!!

Rabbi Alon Anava stated that during the seven minutes while he was dead it seemed like two million years went by..... or even more.

Time as we know it is just to prevent everything from happening all at once.

it is worked out by taking the period between sunrise and sunset and dividing by twelve.

DennisTate · Nov 26, 2019

Robban said:
Time as we know it is just to prevent everything from happening all at once.

it is worked out by taking the period between sunrise and sunset and dividing by twelve.

Good point......

A number of years ago i noticed a whole new possible level of meaning in Ezekiel 37

Each moment in time could theoretically be recreated along with all of us in that moment..... more of the Holy Spirit could be poured out in this new moment... and a whole new time line could be worked out in which there is a much greater level of justice........ and in these new time lines people who did not get to live during what we know of as history might get to have a full lifetime..... in which they get to know their Creator?

So I prophesied as he commanded me, and the breath came into them, and they lived, and stood up upon their feet, an exceeding great army.

11 Then he said unto me, Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel: behold, they say, Our bones are dried up, and our hope is lost; we are clean cut off.

12 Therefore prophesy, and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord Jehovah: Behold, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, O my people; and I will bring you into the land of Israel.

13 And ye shall know that I am Jehovah, when I have opened your graves, and caused you to come up out of your graves, O my people.

14 And I will put my Spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I will place you in your own land: and ye shall know that I, Jehovah, have spoken it and performed it, saith Jehovah.

Multiverse Theory and multiple Ezekiel 37 type events.

Robban · Nov 26, 2019

DennisTate said:
Good point......

A number of years ago i noticed a whole new possible level of meaning in Ezekiel 37

Each moment in time could theoretically be recreated along with all of us in that moment..... more of the Holy Spirit could be poured out in this new moment... and a whole new time line could be worked out in which there is a much greater level of justice........ and in these new time lines people who did not get to live during what we know of as history might get to have a full lifetime..... in which they get to know their Creator?

So I prophesied as he commanded me, and the breath came into them, and they lived, and stood up upon their feet, an exceeding great army.

11 Then he said unto me, Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel: behold, they say, Our bones are dried up, and our hope is lost; we are clean cut off.

12 Therefore prophesy, and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord Jehovah: Behold, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, O my people; and I will bring you into the land of Israel.

13 And ye shall know that I am Jehovah, when I have opened your graves, and caused you to come up out of your graves, O my people.

14 And I will put my Spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I will place you in your own land: and ye shall know that I, Jehovah, have spoken it and performed it, saith Jehovah.

Multiverse Theory and multiple Ezekiel 37 type events.

I do not know that,s for sure.

There have been one, two or more times when alone,

I mean alone, no outside noise, alone with myself,

Many are afraid of being alone with themselves.

And I was not dead, but just being, I don,t know how to say, and it would not serve any purpose by telling anyone either.

DennisTate · Feb 2, 2020

Robban said:
I do not know that,s for sure.

There have been one, two or more times when alone,

I mean alone, no outside noise, alone with myself,

Many are afraid of being alone with themselves.

And I was not dead, but just being, I don,t know how to say, and it would not serve any purpose by telling anyone either.

I've attempted to explain the possible implications of Ezekiel 37 in this discussion:

Multiverse Theory, multiple Ezekiel 37 events and the unification of Calvinism with Universalism?

I just ran into some shocking information that to my thinking helps to make sense out of the rather stern admonitions by Moses on this topic of witchcraft. It begins at the twenty two minute and thirty second mark in this video.

The Mystery Of The Power Words @ The River Of Waupun Session Sixteen

Robban · Feb 2, 2020

DennisTate said:
I've attempted to explain the possible implications of Ezekiel 37 in this discussion:

Multiverse Theory, multiple Ezekiel 37 events and the unification of Calvinism with Universalism?

I just ran into some shocking information that to my thinking helps to make sense out of the rather stern admonitions by Moses on this topic of witchcraft. It begins at the twenty two minute and thirty second mark in this video.

The Mystery Of The Power Words @ The River Of Waupun Session Sixteen

There are many who own most of their time on prophesies and predictions.

To my mind it is divination, witchcraft.

It is not for us to know the future.

Yet leaders listen to them.

Hence the mess the world is in.

DennisTate · Feb 2, 2020

Robban said:
There are many who own most of their time on prophesies and predictions.

To my mind it is divination, witchcraft.

It is not for us to know the future.

Yet leaders listen to them.

Hence the mess the world is in.

Near death experiencers do a great job of explaining how our decisions affect the future.... and can alter the future for the better.

Moses, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel and the minor prophets also concentrated on that theme.

The Future and the Near-Death Experience

3. The future is not fixed and can change

During Karen Schaeffer's NDE, she was shown her children's future as it would exist if she decided to remain in the light. Because she decided to return, the future she was shown did not happen. This suggests that the future is always changing from moment to moment based upon our current actions and decisions. This principle supports quantum mechanic principles.

One of Margot Grey's NDE research subjects stated:

"During my experience ... I was also shown events that are likely to happen in the near future, but was made to understand that nothing is absolutely fixed and that everything depends on how we choose to use our own free will, that even those events that are already predestined can be changed or modified by a change in our own way of relating to them." (Grey, 1985, p. 123)

NDE experiencer Howard Storm was given information on how the future is not fixed:

"We have free will. If we change the way we are, then we can change the future which they showed me. They showed me a view of the future, at the time of my experience, based upon how we in the United States were behaving at that time. It was a future in which a massive worldwide depression would occur. If we were to change our behavior, however, then the future would be different." (Howard Storm)

Howard Storm was also told how a single person can change the world:

"All it takes to make a change was one person. One person, trying, and then because of that, another person changing for the better. They said that the only way to change the world was to begin with one person. One will become two, which will become three, and so on. That's the only way to affect a major change" (Howard Storm)

During Ricky Randolph's NDE, he was told virtually the same thing:

"You must return and help others to change by changing your life!" (Ricky Randolph)

Dannion Brinkley was told how the future is conditional upon human beings:

"If you follow what you have been taught and keep living the same way you have lived the last thirty years, all of this will surely be upon you. If you change, you can avoid the coming war. If you follow this dogma, the world by the year 2004 will not be the same one you now know. But it can still be changed and you can help change it." (Dannion Brinkley)

Brinkley was also told that the future is not cast in stone:

"The flow of human events can be changed, but first people have to know what they are." (Dannion Brinkley)

Brinkley also gives the following advice on how people can change the world:

"The quickest way to change the world is to be of service to others. Show that your love can make a difference in the lives of people and thereby someone else's love can make a difference in your life. By each of us doing that and working together we change the world one inner person at a time." (Dannion Brinkley)

Robban · Feb 2, 2020

DennisTate said:
Near death experiencers do a great job of explaining how our decisions affect the future.... and can alter the future for the better.

Moses, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel and the minor prophets also concentrated on that theme.

The Future and the Near-Death Experience

Torah is instructions.

When all else fails follow the instructions.

Delve and delve into (Torah),
for all is in it,
grow old and worn with it,
for there is nothing better.
(The Ethics of the Fathers 5:21)

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