Hello again S.ilvio, assuming that you were a Christian Tiber crosser (as many/most RC's here at CF seem to be), then you surely remember that Protestants teach (along with the Bible) that we are justified (declared just and saved by God graciously*) from the moment that we come to saving faith & believe .. e.g. John 5:24.
In reality, our salvation is merited for us by the One who lived a perfectly righteous life before His Father on our behalf (the life that we were supposed to live before Him) and who died on the Cross in our places to atone for our sins, to reconcile us to His Father, and to satisfy His wrath against us in the age to come .. Romans 5:8-10. Therefore Jesus is our 'only' innocence, our 'only' righteousness, and the 'only' atonement and satisfaction for our sins.
Salvation is through and in the Person of Jesus Christ. Not a concept or “plan.”
I think reading Romans chapters 1 through 8 answers this.
Some are hyper Calvinists. Yet the if you read the vast majority of Reformed theologians and pastors, the Gospel is forefront. Charles Spurgeon quite the Calvinist spoke out against the hyper Calvinism of his time. He preached the Gospel every time he was on the pulpit and when not there was preaching the Gospel to prisoners and the youth in his orphanage.
Hi Jeff, I have a friend, an orthodox Jew, who fell in love with and married an Episcopalian. His family not only refused to come to their wedding, they also had a funeral and burial for him (in effigy) to display as publicly as possible that they had totally disowned him.
Hello Aussie Pete, as RedLegHunter already mentioned above, there are Hyper-Calvinists who believe and teach such things, but what they teach is hardly Calvinism. In fact, I don't believe that it can even be referred to as Christianity (or it is, at best, Hyper-Heretical Christianity
).
Yes, this is an important point.
"Heart wrenching" , sorrow and grief, is all too often, yet needed/ perhaps best response? / ...
There might be a lot of mandates within various groups against other groups (some may be well known also).
I've seen or heard of a few (quite large or well known(mainstream), not small offshoot) groups (including 'Christian' in name anyway) fairly commonly (though more in the past),
WOW! (now I am surprised.)Hello again @yeshuaslavejeff, are you saying that there are those who oppose water baptism by immersion? If so, I've never heard of that before
--David
The original post implied that the sinner had nothing to do with salvation. Hence my response.Hello Aussie Pete, as RedLegHunter already mentioned above, there are Hyper-Calvinists who believe and teach such things, but what they teach is hardly Calvinism. In fact, I don't believe that it can even be referred to as Christianity (or it is, at best, Hyper-Heretical Christianity
Here is my favorite Christian quote from the one they refer to as the "prince of preachers", Pastor, Theologian, Evangelist, and 5-Point Calvinist, Charles Haddon Spurgeon. His systematic theology is Calvinism (what Calvin and Calvinism actually teach), and here is part of it.
--David
So you can do any evil deed you choose. Be unrepentant and still have Salvation assured..?
