Do you think President Trump may be willing to build a Jerusalem Temple?

Will President Trump attempt to build the Jews a temple?

  • No

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  • Yes

    Votes: 3 15.0%
  • He may well give this option serious consideration

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To be perfectly blunt.... if I could do it I would give this a really good try because to my thinking this seems like a necessary step that sets the stage for the full fledged fulfillment of Zechariah 14 .

Zechariah 14 sure sounds to me like an event that fits with a promise in the Book of Acts.

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10 And while they were looking stedfastly into heaven as he went, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel; 11 who also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye looking into heaven? this Jesus, who was received up from you into heaven shall so come in like manner as ye beheld him going into heaven.


President Trump would know that although this is risky he and the USA of this time period would go down in history as fulfilling a role similar to what ancient King Cyrus of the Medo- Persian Empire accomplished as predicted in
Isaiah 45


The Jerusalem Sanhedrin and many Rabbi's have put an amazing opportunity in front of President Trump and President Putin of Russia as well.
 
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In my opinion this is potentially extremely important:

New Special Edition Trump-Temple Coin Minted for Israel’s 70th Anniversary-The End of the Exile

By Adam Eliyahu Berkowitz April 12, 2018 , 1:00 pm

Here is an article on a modern Christian Political Cyrus that I first read back in 2010 many months before Mr. Mark Taylor wrote something similar to this:
Eporu Ronald Alfred

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P.O. Box 3191, Kakira, Jinja, Uganda

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Dear brethren,
I salute you in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ!

RE: SHARING NEW DISCOVERIES OF THE TRUTH IN BIBLE PROPHECY CONCERNING THE IMMINENT HEALING AND UNITY OF THE CHURCH

I am mesmerized by the truth in bible prophecy that the Spirit of God has been revealing over the recent years. Secret things belong to God and those that are revealed belong to us and our children... (Deut 29: 29).

1. King Cyrus the great ruled his country 555 years Before Christ i.e. from 576 BC to 530 BC and authorised the rebuilding of the second temple in Jerusalem. Cyrus of the Old Testament is hence associated with the number 555 and is the shadow figure of incoming Cyrus II of the New Testament. You may learn more about his history from the internet and scriptures. This new truth enables us to identify the leadership of the world that will rebuild the temple in Jerusalem as prophesied in book of Isaiah before the rise of antichrist. Cyrus II is coming to revive the evangelical/Pentecostal church in Jerusalem and restore the headquarters of the church in same city where the church was born. He is set to strip Babylon of the vessels of the temple and the name of the Lord God and transfer that crown back to Jerusalem thus leaving Babylon naked. Cyrus will rebuild the temple in Jerusalem in fulfilment of the prophecy of Jesus as written in the book of John 2:18-23 and the prophecy of Isaiah as written in chapters 40, 41, 45 and 47 of the book of Isaiah. Jesus regarded the temple as the symbol of his own body while saying that he had the power to lay it down on the first day (1st millennium) and rebuild or raise it up on the 3rd day (3rd millennium). Remember that one day in the eyes of God is the same as one thousand years (millennium) as stated in book of 2 Peter 3:8. Rebuilding of the temple is thus associated with unification of the church.

Cyrus II will rebuild the temple in honour of our lord Jesus Christ. The temple will be the unifying (rallying) point of the world wide evangelical church as the original headquarters of the church. Psalms133 denotes that there is such a powerful anointing that comes along with unity among brethren. Unification of the whole body of Jesus Christ will make the church so powerful that she will overrun the world within a short time before the return of our lord Jesus Christ. A divided church is a powerless church whereas a united church is a powerful church. The church can only be able to fulfil her ultimate mission of revealing Jesus to the world once we get united as one body of Jesus Christ following his last prayer for his disciples as written in John 17:20-23.

Cyrus II will erase that false image of Jesus that the counterfeit and Idolatrous state church of Babylon has been projecting around the world and revive the original church that projects the true brilliant image of Jesus Christ. Haggai 2:9 says that the glory of the latter church (temple) will be greater than the glory of the former church (temple).The rise of Cyrus will also usher in the ultimate fulfilment of the prophecy of Joel 2:28 where God intends to pour out His Spirit on all flesh in these last days. The era of Cyrus brings the gentile period of grace to its close and leads to the restoration of the Jewish period of grace and salvation.




2. King Manasseh was the shadow figure (forerunner) of the antichrist in the Old Testament who ruled over Jerusalem exactly 666 years Before Christ i.e. from 697 BC to 642 BC. (2 chronicle 33: 1-2 and 2 kings 21: 1-17). Antichrist is associated with the number 666 as written in the book of Revelation 13:18. Manasseh was the most evil king to have ever ruled over the city of Jerusalem and kingdom of Judah.

Manasseh is reported to have killed so many innocent people in Jerusalem that the streets of Jerusalem were flowing with blood; he worshiped pagan idols and stars; he built pagan alters for idols and stars in the very courtyards of the temple; he sacrificed his sons to idols; he consulted diviners and mediums; he even set up an abominable pagan image at the temple that causes desolation just as the incoming antichrist will do. It was on that basis that God decided to have that first temple destroyed completely since Manasseh had desecrated it.



3. Prophet Jonah was the shadow figure (forerunner) of Jesus Christ in the Old Testament who undertook his prophetic ministry around 777 B.C. Prophet Jonah is hence associated with the number 777. He arose from the shadow and demise of Prophet Elisha. His preaching radiated such great power and authority that turned the city of Nineveh as the rising super power of that time up side down within 3 days only (read the book of Jonah). Jonah was the prophetic force behind the restoration of the lost territories of Israel in the reign of King Jeroboam II of Israel between 782 BC and 741 BC as written in II Kings 14:25. Jonah related with God more or less as his own father and God loved him more or less as His own son. He volunteered to die save occupants of the ship and was raised to life after three days just like Jesus Christ. Jesus compared himself with Jonah as his forerunner in the Old Testament as far as his earthly ministry, death and resurrection was concerned in Mathew 12; 38-41, Luke 11; 29-32. Jesus will also oversee the restoration of the lost territories of Israel just like prophet Jonah when he comes to rule as the king of kings and Lord of Lords. We can therefore correctly associate Jesus Christ with the number 777 just like Jonah as our commander-in-chief, Lord of the Sabbath and fountain of life.

The more we know where we came from the more we know where we are going. You are cordially invited to visit my face book home page for more information and messages. Feel free to share this truth with other brethren just as I received it free of charge from God.

Your brother in Christ

Eporu Ronald
Scientist & Minister of Bible Prophecy
 
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To be perfectly blunt.... if I could do it I would give this a really good try because to my thinking this seems like a necessary step that sets the stage for the full fledged fulfillment of Zechariah 14 .

Zechariah 14 sure sounds to me like an event that fits with a promise in the Book of Acts.

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9 And when he had said these things, as they were looking, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.

10 And while they were looking stedfastly into heaven as he went, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel; 11 who also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye looking into heaven? this Jesus, who was received up from you into heaven shall so come in like manner as ye beheld him going into heaven.


President Trump would know that although this is risky he and the USA of this time period would go down in history as fulfilling a role similar to what ancient King Cyrus of the Medo- Persian Empire accomplished as predicted in
Isaiah 45


The Jerusalem Sanhedrin and many Rabbi's have put an amazing opportunity in front of President Trump and President Putin of Russia as well.
With all due respect, everything in me is recoiling at the degree of self will involved in this.
...even though I realize that isn't really an argument against the possibility.
 
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In my opinion this is potentially extremely important:

New Special Edition Trump-Temple Coin Minted for Israel’s 70th Anniversary-The End of the Exile

By Adam Eliyahu Berkowitz April 12, 2018 , 1:00 pm

Here is an article on a modern Christian Political Cyrus that I first read back in 2010 many months before Mr. Mark Taylor wrote something similar to this:
OK, lol... now it's fitting the pattern. My first reaction to your thread title was flip. I was thinking, "Not without putting his brand on it".
But it would plausibly turn out to be history's most influential real estate deal.
His face on a coin surely elevates him to peerage with Ceasar. lol
 
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Good thing you're not trump. Trumped? Maybe.....

What President Trump is up against boggles my mind......
I don't think that I would have done a very good job of going through all the attacks that he faced since even before he took office in 2017.

President Trump has astonishing courage and really knows how to deal with situations that I have zero background in dealing with, so yes...... it is a good thing for America and the world that I am not President Trump.
 
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But it would plausibly turn out to be history's most influential real estate deal.
His face on a coin surely elevates him to peerage with Ceasar. lol
Sadly, no, not even close.

The royal house elsewhere has thousands or millions of times more influence and real estate ... and likely is part of or in control/ direction / of the news coverage, political shenanigans, etc ....
 
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With all due respect, everything in me is recoiling at the degree of self will involved in this.
...even though I realize that isn't really an argument against the possibility.

I've been a Christian for forty five years and I have gotten the impression that the majority of us Christians at this time fear the arrival of the anti-Christ person.......
more than we seem to desire the fulfillment of the promise for Messiah Yeshua - Jesus to come down to earth in the same manner in which he went up............
that is given in Acts of the Apostles 1
 
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OK, lol... now it's fitting the pattern. My first reaction to your thread title was flip. I was thinking, "Not without putting his brand on it".
But it would plausibly turn out to be history's most influential real estate deal.
His face on a coin surely elevates him to peerage with Ceasar. lol

If President Trump were to decide to courageously support the Jewish people in their desire to build a Jerusalem Third Temple and / or an Ezekiel 40
to Ezekiel 48 temple complex there would be some negatives as the forces of darkness fought against this happening but.......
I do believe that this would lead to an outpouring of the Holy Spirit which is the only real hope for this planet.

The results of this poll so far are interesting:

Should Christians support Rebuilding of Jerusalem Third Temple.


Should Christians support Jerusalem Third Temple?
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  1. *
    Yes... the words of Ezekiel must come to pass.
    9 vote(s)
    14.3%

  2. No.... it will lead to the rise of the Anti-Christ fellow.
    8 vote(s)
    12.7%

  3. Yes.... living waters will flow from the restored Third Temple.
    2 vote(s)
    3.2%

  4. No... Christians must not support animal sacrifice.
    31 vote(s)
    49.2%

  5. I am not certain but I will research this question further.
    8 vote(s)
    12.7%

  6. No... this could cause a war to break out.
    5 vote(s)
    7.9%
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I've been a Christian for forty five years and I have gotten the impression that the majority of us Christians at this time fear the arrival of the anti-Christ person.......
This is no surprise at this time, as the section and false teachings of the groups/ false teachers you follow can give no sense of true peace and do and should instead lead to real fear (since they have no way of salvation for themselves, if they continue teaching a false gospel) .

The Ekklesia have no fear of the devil himself, let alone his pawn the antichrist, or antichrists already among us, as written, for we know the truth, and we abide inthe Savior Jesus Christ, and in His Perfect Love, there is no fear at all, just as in the Ekklesia in the NT.
 
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This is no surprise at this time, as the section and false teachings of the groups/ false teachers you follow can give no sense of true peace and do and should instead lead to real fear (since they have no way of salvation for themselves, if they continue teaching a false gospel) .

The Ekklesia have no fear of the devil himself, let alone his pawn the antichrist, or antichrists already among us, as written, for we know the truth, and we abide inthe Savior Jesus Christ, and in His Perfect Love, there is no fear at all, just as in the Ekklesia in the NT.


OK... so what specifically is wrong with my reasoning process here?

Should Christians support Rebuilding of Jerusalem Third Temple.

One of the best arguments that I have ran into as to why
Christians should support the Orthodox Jewish community
in their desire to rebuild their Jerusalem Third Temple is
a statement by Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus:

Luke 24:25

"Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:"

So... all that the prophets have spoken would include Ezekiel chapters 40 - 48 that
clearly describe the restored Jerusalem Third Temple as part of the Era of Messiah / Moshiach.... .the millennial rule of Messiah over all the earth.

Also:
Luke 13:35

"Behold, your house is left unto you desolate: and verily I say unto you, Ye shall not see me, until the time come when ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord."

Was Ezekiel blessed?

Did Ezekiel come in the name of the Lord?

Is Christianity relatively desolate due to our having forgotten the words of the Prophets?
 
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What President Trump is up against boggles my mind......
I don't think that I would have done a very good job of going through all the attacks that he faced since even before he took office in 2017.

President Trump has astonishing courage and really knows how to deal with situations that I have zero background in dealing with, so yes...... it is a good thing for America and the world that I am not President Trump.
We should look to Christ and His when trying to assess the actions of individuals and their real motivations:

43 “No good tree bears bad fruit, nor does a bad tree bear good fruit. 44 Each tree is recognized by its own fruit. People do not pick figs from thornbushes, or grapes from briers. 45 A good man brings good things out of the good stored up in his heart, and an evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in his heart. For the mouth speaks what the heart is full of.

Good fruit -- John chapter 15 -- is love towards others.

Good fruit is showing love towards all others, such as poor immigrants on our southern border seeking safety...

No good tree bears bad fruit.

Truth.
 
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Good fruit is showing love towards all others, such as poor immigrants on our southern border seeking safety...
AND in truth, seeing thru the deception and the money that brought them there (paid them money every day from the day they left their homes so far south,
and
in truth, preventing if it were possible , the incoming idolatry ....
 
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AND in truth, seeing thru the deception and the money that brought them there (paid them money every day from the day they left their homes so far south,
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in truth, preventing if it were possible , the incoming idolatry ....
I don't care if there are 100 drug gangs, or 1,000 democrats, or whatever.

When a child and a family are fleeing death threats, we should with love and kindness give them refuge.

Period.

There aren't any excuses.

There will not be any excuses for opposing these poor refugees on the Day of Judgment in front of the One from Whom nothing is hidden.

For anyone that blocked or slandered or opposed these poor refugees, their only chance is either complete unawareness, or else confession and repentance I think, based on scriptures.
 
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When a child and a family are fleeing death threats, we should with love and kindness give them refuge.
Sorry, while 'almost' true, when the circumstances are as you post ,
in
this case - the so-called refugees have been PAID TO SHOW UP,

they are NOT FOR REAL (even though they are real people).
 
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To be perfectly blunt.... if I could do it I would give this a really good try because to my thinking this seems like a necessary step that sets the stage for the full fledged fulfillment of Zechariah 14 .

Zechariah 14 sure sounds to me like an event that fits with a promise in the Book of Acts.

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9 And when he had said these things, as they were looking, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.

10 And while they were looking stedfastly into heaven as he went, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel; 11 who also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye looking into heaven? this Jesus, who was received up from you into heaven shall so come in like manner as ye beheld him going into heaven.


President Trump would know that although this is risky he and the USA of this time period would go down in history as fulfilling a role similar to what ancient King Cyrus of the Medo- Persian Empire accomplished as predicted in
Isaiah 45


The Jerusalem Sanhedrin and many Rabbi's have put an amazing opportunity in front of President Trump and President Putin of Russia as well.
I take my view directly from Jesus Christ of Nazareth. It would be His word against the word of anyone who thinks the temple will or even needs to be raised again.
24 Then Jesus went out and departed from the temple, and His disciples came up to show Him the buildings of the temple. 2 And Jesus said to them, “Do you not see all these things? Assuredly, I say to you, not one stone shall be left here upon another, that shall not be thrown down.”
Be blessed.
 
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Sorry, while 'almost' true, when the circumstances are as you post ,
in
this case - the so-called refugees have been PAID TO SHOW UP,

they are NOT FOR REAL (even though they are real people).

You'd better see this real life account, from about 30 seconds into the video until about a minute and a few seconds (that's only a very short bit of your time)



Suppose for thinking about it, let's consider the meaning if it is the case that some refugees or immigrants (probably not this one above!! ) were given money along the way....

Ok, then it seems it would be a slander in effect to overemphasize that happened for some.

Here's why: because it would be taking the actions of a certain number (supposing it did happen some number were given funds to help their journey, or whatever, even activists(!)), and then painting by association (even if not intended) those wrong actions onto many other innocent people (who got no such aid or money).

How can we guess that? By the fact that there have been hundreds of thousands of refugees fleeing to our border, and many accounts of having family members murdered.
 
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President Trump would know that although this is risky he and the USA of this time period would go down in history as fulfilling a role similar to what ancient King Cyrus of the Medo- Persian Empire accomplished as predicted in
Isaiah 45
King Cyrus was not partial to the Israelites. King Cyrus allowed ALL the Babylonian captives to return to their homes, if they chose to. We don't know what other people he may have helped to rebuild what the Babylonians had destroyed.
King Cyrus was not a type of Trump. King Cyrus was a type of the Messiah, the Christ, who would free All the captives, not just the Jews.

I find it offense to give a man, any man, the position that only belongs to our Lord and Savior, Jesus the Christ.
 
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King Cyrus was not partial to the Israelites. King Cyrus allowed ALL the Babylonian captives to return to their homes, if they chose to. We don't know what other people he may have helped to rebuild what the Babylonians had destroyed.
King Cyrus was not a type of Trump. King Cyrus was a type of the Messiah, the Christ, who would free All the captives, not just the Jews.

I find it offense to give a man, any man, the position that only belongs to our Lord and Savior, Jesus the Christ.


That is a very helpful and useful comment!

There is a statement in Isaiah 45
though that I cannot for the life of me see how this could relate to Messiah Yeshua - Jesus??????

"Though thou has not known me"....... Messiah Yeshua - Jesus knew the G-d of Abraham / HaShem better than King Solomon or even Moses did...... in my opinion anyway?????!!!!


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Thus saith Jehovah to his anointed, to Cyrus, whose right hand I have holden, to subdue nations before him, and I will loose the loins of kings; to open the doors before him, and the gates shall not be shut: 2 I will go before thee, and make the rough places smooth; I will break in pieces the doors of brass, and cut in sunder the bars of iron; 3 and I will give thee the treasures of darkness, and hidden riches of secret places, that thou mayest know that it is I, Jehovah, who call thee by thy name, even the God of Israel.

4 For Jacob my servant's sake, and Israel my chosen, I have called thee by thy name: I have surnamed thee, though thou hast not known me.

5 I am Jehovah, and there is none else; besides me there is no God. I will gird thee, though thou hast not known me; 6 that they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none besides me: I am Jehovah, and there is none else.

7 I form the light, and create darkness; I make peace, and create evil. I am Jehovah, that doeth all these things.
 
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