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It has nothing to do with who is better or worse than anyone else.

Yes, it certainly has nothing to do with that - it depends on whether God is able and willing to save all, and I say HE IS.
 
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Yes, it certainly has nothing to do with that - it depends on whether God is able and willing to save all, and I say HE IS.
If you oppose Him, what do you say HE IS ?
He Says He won't save everyone, remember. This is all through His Word.
Those who reject Jesus, and those who trample underfoot the son of God, the blood of the lamb who was slain, they are destined for destruction, not for refining(which is part of the false gospel deception posted in this forum many times now) ...
God tells the truth.
His Word is truth.
He won't change His Word, for anyone. So no, He won't save everyone. That is directly opposed to His Plan, His Purpose and His Gospel .(and all His Word).
 
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If you oppose Him, what do you say HE IS ?
He Says He won't save everyone, remember. This is all through His Word.
Those who reject Jesus, and those who trample underfoot the son of God, the blood of the lamb who was slain, they are destined for destruction, not for refining(which is part of the false gospel deception posted in this forum many times now) ...
God tells the truth.
His Word is truth.
He won't change His Word, for anyone. So no, He won't save everyone. That is directly opposed to His Plan, His Purpose and His Gospel .(and all His Word).

Yet, you fail in post after post, to present any Scripture to back up your assertions. I can post at any time, a succinct list of my conclusions with supporting Scripture references. Can you do the same? You know, it's kind of like that old saw about Jesus saying more about Hell than anything else. I'm sure you've heard it too. Anyway, one day I decided to see if it were true, Berean that I am. My finding, even setting aside whether Hell was real or not, in the KJV I found that Jesus spoke of Heaven, or the Kingdom of Heaven about TEN times more than He spoke of Hell. That's the view from here...
 
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Yes, it certainly has nothing to do with that - it depends on whether God is able and willing to save all, and I say HE IS.

LUK 3:6 AND ALL FLESH WILL SEE THE SALVATION OF GOD.'"

PHI 2:10 so that at the name of Jesus EVERY KNEE WILL BOW, of those who are in heaven and on earth and under the earth, 11 and that every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.


I agree, and scripture tells us what God's will is. And when every knee finally bows and confesses to the GLORY of God....then the glory of orthodoxy will fade pale, with its curse of death for the majority of God's creation. And then, even THEY will see the salvation of God....finally. :clap:
 
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Repost of the verse I was looking for first, in my last post.

1TI 2:3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; 4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

So here we have it. GOD'S will versus the will of Orthodoxy. I'm betting on the WILL of God to open the eyes of many in the ages to come.
 
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This is still the false teaching of the false gospel of u.r., and others.

Exo 23:16 And the feast of harvest, the firstfruits of thy labours, which thou hast sown in the field: and the feast of ingathering, which is in the end of the year, when thou hast gathered in thy labours out of the field

Saying that God throws away the majority of his harvest, literally makes a mockery of scripture.
 
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LUK 3:6 AND ALL FLESH WILL SEE THE SALVATION OF GOD.'"

PHI 2:10 so that at the name of Jesus EVERY KNEE WILL BOW, of those who are in heaven and on earth and under the earth, 11 and that every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.


I agree, and scripture tells us what God's will is. And when every knee finally bows and confesses to the GLORY of God....then the glory of orthodoxy will fade pale, with its curse of death for the majority of God's creation. And then, even THEY will see the salvation of God....finally. :clap:

Exo 23:16 And the feast of harvest, the firstfruits of thy labours, which thou hast sown in the field: and the feast of ingathering, which is in the end of the year, when thou hast gathered in thy labours out of the field

Saying that God throws away the majority of his harvest, literally makes a mockery of scripture.

Most Christians don't give a number how many will be saved. Only God knows how many, though there is a consensus that not all will be saved.
 
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Exo 23:16 And the feast of harvest, the firstfruits of thy labours, which thou hast sown in the field: and the feast of ingathering, which is in the end of the year, when thou hast gathered in thy labours out of the field

Saying that God throws away the majority of his harvest, literally makes a mockery of scripture.

Dear Marty: Our Father loses nothing, not leftover remnants of fish and bread, and most assuredly the souls of those for whom He is the Mercy-Seat.

I believe in the One who succeeds
 
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I Believe

I believe that “having an hundred sheep, if he lose one of them, does he not leave the ninety and nine in the wilderness, and go after that which is lost till he find it.” -Luke 15:14-

I believe the Lord gathers up remnants of fish and bread, He “gathers up remnants that nothing be lost.” -John 6:12

I believe God “will open His hand and satisfy the desire of every living thing.” -Psl. 145:6

I believe that God is “gracious in all His works.” -Psl. 145:17-

I believe “the earth is the Lord’s and all its fulness, the world and all those who dwell therein.” -Psl. 24:1-

I believe “all the kings of the earth shall praise You, oh Lord, when they hear the words of Your mouth.” -Psl. 138:4-

I believe God “reveals Himself by those who did not ask for Him; He was found by those who did not seek Him.” -Isa. 65:1

I Believe

I believe “the Lord is gracious and full of compassion, slow to anger and great in mercy. The Lord is good to all, and His tender mercies are over all the works of His hands. All Your works shall praise You, oh Lord.” -Psl. 145:8-10-

I believe “all the ends of the world shall remember and turn to the Lord, and all the families of the nations shall worship before You. All those who go down to the dust shall bow before You.” -Psl. 22:27, 29

I believe “O You who hear prayer, to You shall all flesh come. Iniquities prevail against me; as for transgressions, You will provide atonement for them.” -Psl. 66:3, 4-

I believe “through the greatness of Your power Your enemies shall submit themselves to You. All the earth shall worship You and sing praises to You.” -Psl. 66: 3, 4

I Believe

I believe “the Lord is gracious and full of compassion, slow to anger and great in mercy. The Lord is good to all, and His tender mercies are over all the works of His hands. All Your works shall praise You, oh Lord.” -Psl. 145:8-10-

I believe “all the ends of the world shall remember and turn to the Lord, and all the families of the nations shall worship before You. All those who go down to the dust shall bow before You.” -Psl. 22:27, 29

I believe “O You who hear prayer, to You shall all flesh come. Iniquities prevail against me; as for transgressions, You will provide atonement for them.” -Psl. 66:3, 4-

I believe “through the greatness of Your power Your enemies shall submit themselves to You. All the earth shall worship You and sing praises to You.” -Psl. 66: 3, 4

I believe

I believe that “through the Lord’s mercies we are not consumed, because His compassions fail not. They are new every morning. Great is Your faithfulness.” -Lam. 3:21-24-

I believe that "the Lord will not cast off forever. Though He causes grief, yet He will show compassion according to the multitude of His mercies. -Lam. 3:31,32

I believe “there is no God besides Me, a just God and Saviour; There is none besides Me. Look to Me and be saved, all you ends of the earth! For I am God, and there is none other. I have sworn by Myself; the word has gone out of My mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, that to Me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall take an oath. He shall say, surely in the Lord I have righteousness and strength. To Him men shall come, and all shall be ashamed who are incensed against Him. In the Lord all the descendants of Israel shall be justified and shall glory.” -Isa. 45:21-25

I Believe

I believe “in this mountain the Lord of Hosts will make for all people a feast of choice pieces, a feast of wines on the lees, of fat things full of marrow, of well-refined wines on the lees. And He will destroy on this mountain the covering cast over all nations and all poeples. He will swallow up death forever, and the Lord will wipe away all tears from all faces.” -Isa.25-26

I believe Jesus Christ “ascended higher than all the heavens so that He might fill the entire universe with Himself.” -Eph. 4:10

I believe that Jesus Christ is destined to reign until God “has put all enemies under His feet.” -1 Cor. 15:25

I believe the end consummates in “abolishing every kind of domination, authority, and power.” - 1 Cor. 15:24

I believe the “last enemy to be abolished is death.” -1 Cor. 15:27

I believe that “when all things are subject to Him, then the Son himself will also be made subordinate to God, who made all things subject to Him.” -1 Cor. 15:28

I believe the subjection of all to Christ Jesus culminates in “God all in all.” -1 Cor. 15:28

I Believe

I believe “all nations of the earth shall be blessed.” -Gen. 18:18

I believe “all families of the earth shall be blessed.” -Gen. 12:3 & Gen. 28:14

I believe “it shall come to pass the saying that is written: ‘death is swallowed up in victory, Oh death, where is your sting. Oh, hell, where is your victory.’ The sting of death is sin, and the strength of sin is the law. But thanks be to God, who gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.” -1 Cor. 15: 54-58

I believe “it is finished.” -John 19:30
 
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Dear Marty: Our Father loses nothing, not leftover remnants of fish and bread, and most assuredly the souls of those for whom He is the Mercy-Seat.

I believe in the One who succeeds

I believe the Mercy seat is an atoning sacrifice, that has the power to forgive anyone. But I believe people have to have the Holy Spirit to be part of the body of the Church and be saved. I believe Christ's mission is to offer salvation to everyone and save all who have him as Lord.
 
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I believe the Mercy seat is an atoning sacrifice, that has the power to forgive anyone. But I believe people have to have the Holy Spirit to be part of the body of the Church and be saved. I believe Christ's mission is to offer salvation to everyone and save all who have him as Lord.

Dear Zoidar: The Lord Jesus Christ is the Mercy-Seat. He forgives sin now and forever (past present and future). He does not offer salvation, He is salvation, His middle Name is Lesous.

That in/en the Name of Jesus EVERY knee shall bow and EVERY tongue confess>>>You are Lord.
 
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"Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of His will, To the praise of the glory of His grace, wherein He has made us accepted in the beloved. In whom we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of His grace; Wherein He has abounded toward us in all wisdom and prudence; Having made known unto us the mystery of His will, according to His good pleasure which He has purposed in Himself:That in the dispensation of the fulness of times He might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him: In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of Him who works all things after the counsel of His own will."

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"Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of His will, To the praise of the glory of His grace, wherein He has made us accepted in the beloved. In whom we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of His grace; Wherein He has abounded toward us in all wisdom and prudence; Having made known unto us the mystery of His will, according to His good pleasure which He has purposed in Himself:That in the dispensation of the fulness of times He might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him: In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of Him who works all things after the counsel of His own will."

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Is Paul talking about everybody?

Ephesians 2
4 But God, being rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us, 5 even when we were dead in our transgressions, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved), 6 and raised us up with Him, and seated us with Him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, 7 so that in the ages to come He might show the surpassing riches of His grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus.
 
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Is Paul talking about everybody?

Ephesians 2
4 But God, being rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us, 5 even when we were dead in our transgressions, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved), 6 and raised us up with Him, and seated us with Him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, 7 so that in the ages to come He might show the surpassing riches of His grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus.

Dear Zoidar: keep reading>>>>We, His elect (especially), are the firstfruits of a massive campaign of restoration. The Campign of all campaigns of total and complete reconciliation of ta pante.>>>>

"That in the dispensation of the fulness of times He might gather together in one the all in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in Him: In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of Him who works all things after the counsel of His own will."
 
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Dear Zoidar: keep reading>>>>We, His elect (especially), are the firstfruits of a massive campaign of restoration. The Campign of all campaigns of total and complete reconciliation of the ta pante.>>>>

"That in the dispensation of the fulness of times He might gather together in one the all in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in Him: In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of Him who works all things after the counsel of His own will."

Working all things after His counsel of His own will is letting everyone get what they deserve. People who obey Christ, everlasting life, and people who disobey Christ, everlasting contempt.

Daniel 12:2
Many of those who sleep in the dust of the ground will wake, these to everlasting life, but the others to disgrace and everlasting contempt.
 
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Working all things after His counsel of His own will is letting everyone get what they deserve. People who obey Christ, everlasting life, and people who disobey Christ, everlasting contempt.

Daniel 12:2
Many of those who sleep in the dust of the ground will wake, these to everlasting life, but the others to disgrace and everlasting contempt.

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Dear Zoidar: Over 62 years ago our glorious Father touched my life for the first time. As the years have fast progressed, His breast has been One I have leaned on in every trial and tribulation. You may have not found the same Father yet, but you shall. If people get what they deserve, FineLinen stands in abject poverty!

The entire idea of One who can ultimately bring every last rotten sinner home to Himself is just obnoxious. We good guys who have made excellent choices & worked so tirelessly on His behalf & paid terrible costs to be His disciple will not stand for such folly.

NOT by any works we have done but according to His mercy
 
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