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He loves those who end up and remain unsaved, or loved some of them... His love did not save everyone - just like Jesus love for the children of Jerusalem did not save them, when they were not willing. (as He lamented: ".... you would not...." (be drawn under His tzitzits(wings) ) ) ....
God's Amazing Agape (Love) does not diminish His Righteous Judgment, Justice, and Righteousness.

I was referring to people who don’t fully understand God’s word and their love for God that saves them. Not God’s Love for them.
 
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Eternal life is what we receive after we die or when Jesus returns. Until then we have the hope and the promise of eternal life IF we remain in the faith. Did you read the scriptures I provided?

“"I am the true vine, and My Father is the vinedresser. Every branch in Me that does not bear fruit, He takes away; (cuts off or removes) and every branch that bears fruit, He prunes it so that it may bear more fruit.”
‭‭John‬ ‭15:1-2‬ ‭NASB‬‬

“If anyone does not abide in Me, he is thrown away as a branch and dries up; and they gather them, and cast them into the fire and they are burned.”
‭‭John‬ ‭15:6‬ ‭NASB‬‬

“But if some of the branches were broken off, and you, being a wild olive, were grafted in among them and became partaker with them of the rich root of the olive tree, do not be arrogant toward the branches; but if you are arrogant, remember that it is not you who supports the root, but the root supports you. You will say then, "Branches were broken off so that I might be grafted in." Quite right, they were broken off for their unbelief, but you stand by your faith. Do not be conceited, but fear; for if God did not spare the natural branches, He will not spare you, either. Behold then the kindness and severity of God; to those who fell, severity, but to you, God's kindness, if you continue in His kindness; otherwise you also will be cut off. And they also, if they do not continue in their unbelief, will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭11:17-23‬ ‭NASB‬‬

There are two ways we can view salvation. Either from God’s perspective which is looking at it from the aspect of who’s names are written in the book of life and there’s man’s perspective which is by looking at those who are on the path to being written in the book of life. The book of life is written according to God’s foreknowledge of who will abide in Christ to the end. Because of our free will the choices we make throughout our life are right now determining what God has already foreseen. So a person son can be on the path to receiving salvation and veer off that path resulting in God foreseeing that he did not abide in Christ thus he was not written in the book of life. That person who was on the path and strayed away would’ve received salvation if he had not strayed from the path therefore he lost the salvation he would’ve received because he did not remain in Christ. So from God’s perspective the names who are written in the book of life will not be edited and therefore cannot lose their salvation but from our perspective not knowing who is written in the book of life or who will or will not remain in Christ our salvation is still contingent upon the choices we make. So we still have the power to choose our own destiny.
There is no way I'm going to convince you that the Blood of Christ is sufficient for all your sins: past, present and future. This is between you and God. If you do not ask, He will not show you what it means in exodus... "When I see the blood I will passover".

Exodus Chapter 12
5 Your lamb shall be without blemish, a male of the first year. You may take it from the sheep or from the goats. 6 Now you shall keep it until the fourteenth day of the same month. Then the whole assembly of the congregation of Israel shall kill it at twilight. 7 And they shall take some of the blood and put it on the two doorposts and on the lintel of the houses where they eat it. 8 Then they shall eat the flesh on that night; roasted in fire, with unleavened bread and with bitter herbs they shall eat it. 9 Do not eat it raw, nor boiled at all with water, but roasted in fire—its head with its legs and its entrails. 10 You shall let none of it remain until morning, and what remains of it until morning you shall burn with fire. 11 And thus you shall eat it: with a belt on your waist, your sandals on your feet, and your staff in your hand. So you shall eat it in haste. It is the LORD’s Passover.
12 ‘For I will pass through the land of Egypt on that night, and will strike all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, both man and beast; and against all the gods of Egypt I will execute judgment: I am the LORD. 13 Now the blood shall be a sign for you on the houses where you are. And when I see the blood, I will pass over you; and the plague shall not be on you to destroy you when I strike the land of Egypt.

This is just one of the many prophecies of Jesus Christ from the old Testament. We often overlook the simplicity in these passages. Notice after the blood was put on the doorpost the people were given rules on how to cook, eat, and dispose of the flesh of the lamb. But when death came that night it wasn't the works they were told to do in the house that saved them. No, death passed over them because the blood was over their doorpost. We have no idea if these people even did what they were told to do in the house. WHEN I SEE THE BLOOD I WILL PASS OVER!!!

How do we value His blood? Do we see the purchase order of our Savior in the light of our evaluation, or in the light of our Father? Is our value based on how we see the blood, or how our Father sees the blood?

I believe to fully understand the value of the blood we have to understand the righteousness and holiness of our perfect passover lamb.

God’s righteousness requires that a PERFECT life be given… a lamb without blemish. A life that is righteous and holy is the ONLY life that could fulfill the righteous requirements of the law, thus satisfying God’s wrath against sin. Removing those sins as far as the East is from the West. “Though your sins be like scarlet, they shall be WHITE AS SNOW!!” And unto Him who “WASHED US FROM OUR SINS IN HIS OWN BLOOD!!”

Ephesians 2:13
But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far off have been brought near by the blood of Christ.

So how do we see the blood? Is it according to our perception or His? We must know that He is fully satisfied, and sees us with an UNCONDITIONAL LOVE through the blood of His dear Son! Therefore the grounds of our approach to the throne are no different...

Hebrews 10:19
Therefore, brethren, having boldness to enter the Holiest by the blood of Jesus

Is our approach to the Father merited on our daily victory? Do we approach Him according to our performance throughout the day, or do we approach Him on His terms… The precious blood of His dear Son!!

We must come every time by THE BLOOD! We come on His terms when we come by the grace that was poured out for us by that Roman spear!! He is satisfied, and our conscience bears witness that our Father loves us UNCONDITIONALLY! The terms have been established by His blood, and in those terms we find a PERFECT ASSURANCE. An assurance that we may approach the throne of God with boldness, freedom, and confidence!! Coming to Him on the grounds of the precious blood EVERY TIME!!

We are a temple of the Holy Spirit with something far greater than the blood of bulls and goats over our door posts! We have the precious blood of God’s only begotten Son over our doorpost!!

This is unmerited favor! This is the grace that sets us free!! This is the man of sorrows!! This is a King with a crown of thorns!! This is an EMPTY TOMB!! This is a COMPLETE FORGIVENESS!!
 
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There is no way I'm going to convince you that the Blood of Christ is sufficient for all your sins: past, present and future.
It seems he already knows that.
It is the ones who TRAMPLE UNDERFOOT THE BLOOD OF JESUS, for whom there is NO LONGER ANY SACRIFICE for their sins. They cannot be redeemed, nor forgiven, nor saved, according to all that is revealed in Scripture by Yahuweh.
 
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There is no way I'm going to convince you that the Blood of Christ is sufficient for all your sins: past, present and future. This is between you and God. If you do not ask, He will not show you what it means in exodus... "When He see the blood, I will passover".

Exodus Chapter 12
5 Your lamb shall be without blemish, a male of the first year. You may take it from the sheep or from the goats. 6 Now you shall keep it until the fourteenth day of the same month. Then the whole assembly of the congregation of Israel shall kill it at twilight. 7 And they shall take some of the blood and put it on the two doorposts and on the lintel of the houses where they eat it. 8 Then they shall eat the flesh on that night; roasted in fire, with unleavened bread and with bitter herbs they shall eat it. 9 Do not eat it raw, nor boiled at all with water, but roasted in fire—its head with its legs and its entrails. 10 You shall let none of it remain until morning, and what remains of it until morning you shall burn with fire. 11 And thus you shall eat it: with a belt on your waist, your sandals on your feet, and your staff in your hand. So you shall eat it in haste. It is the LORD’s Passover.
12 ‘For I will pass through the land of Egypt on that night, and will strike all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, both man and beast; and against all the gods of Egypt I will execute judgment: I am the LORD. 13 Now the blood shall be a sign for you on the houses where you are. And when I see the blood, I will pass over you; and the plague shall not be on you to destroy you when I strike the land of Egypt.

This is just one of the many prophecies of Jesus Christ from the old Testament. We often overlook the simplicity in these passages. Notice after the blood was put on the doorpost the people were given rules on how to cook, eat, and dispose of the flesh of the lamb. But when death came that night it wasn't the works they were told to do in the house that saved them. No, death passed over them because the blood was over their doorpost. We have no idea if these people even did what they were told to do in the house. WHEN I SEE THE BLOOD I WILL PASS OVER!!!

Just a shadow of the eternal sacrifice that was to come.

Hebrews 9:22 “Without the shedding of blood, there is no remission of sins.”

1 John 1:7″… the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.”

Revelation 1:5 “… Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood.”

Revelation 12:11 “And they overcame him (Satan) by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony …”

Hebrews 9:14 “How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience …”

Hebrews 10:19, 22 “Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus … Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience …”

In Christ we are a temple of the Holy Ghost with much more than the blood of bulls and goats over our door post. We have the eternal blood of God's one and only Son. He was without sin, but became sin on our behalf so we could become the righteousness of God in him. In that sacrifice is a love that has no bounds. Praise the Lord we are free!!!!!!!

What about the scriptures I posted? Are they not relevant enough to consider?
 
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It seems he already knows that.
It is the ones who TRAMPLE UNDERFOOT THE BLOOD OF JESUS, for whom there is NO LONGER ANY SACRIFICE for their sins. They cannot be redeemed, nor forgiven, nor saved, according to all that is revealed in Scripture by Yahuweh.
What about the scriptures I posted? Are they not relevant enough to consider?
Like I said, only God can show you that His blood is sufficient. This is a revelation, only when we come to and of ourselves and realize it IS NOT BY WORKS, but by the blood of God's dear Son that we are saved. If you can't see that His blood is sufficient, you will keep trying in the flesh to hold onto your salvation. And never walk in the freedom of a GRACE that is SUFFICIENT!
 
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Like I said, only God can show you that His blood is sufficient. This is a revelation, only when we come to and of ourselves and realize it IS NOT BY WORKS, but by His blood of God's dear Son that we are saved. If you can't see that His blood is sufficient, you will keep trying in the flesh to hold onto your salvation. And never walk in the freedom of a GRACE that is SUFFICIENT!
Are you confused ?
 
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Like I said, only God can show you that His blood is sufficient. This is a revelation, only when we come to and of ourselves and realize it IS NOT BY WORKS, but by the blood of God's dear Son that we are saved. If you can't see that His blood is sufficient, you will keep trying in the flesh to hold onto your salvation. And never walk in the freedom of a GRACE that is SUFFICIENT!

So your saved by faith alone?
 
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Like I said, only God can show you that His blood is sufficient. This is a revelation, only when we come to and of ourselves and realize it IS NOT BY WORKS, but by the blood of God's dear Son that we are saved. If you can't see that His blood is sufficient, you will keep trying in the flesh to hold onto your salvation. And never walk in the freedom of a GRACE that is SUFFICIENT!

So I can truly believe that Jesus Christ is my Savior and no matter what I do He will forgive my sins then go to a church and start shooting everyone inside, men, women, children, and when the cops arrive I start shooting them to and get killed in the process. Am I saved?
 
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It seems he already knows that.
It is the ones who TRAMPLE UNDERFOOT THE BLOOD OF JESUS, for whom there is NO LONGER ANY SACRIFICE for their sins. They cannot be redeemed, nor forgiven, nor saved, according to all that is revealed in Scripture by Yahuweh.
but what if those people who trampled underfoot the blood of Jesus repent and start believing in Jesus’ blood? can they still be saved?

i rejected Christ before, abandoning God and replacing Jesus with a guy cos i didnt know Christ’s value (im still learning) and i was only afraid of persecution >< and i was angry and resentful towards God for allowing me to be bullied ><

but what if i choose to believe in and accept Jesus again after learning about the truth although i once abandoned Him? can i still be saved?
 
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He is the Saviour of all men, since there is only one Saviour, but not in the sense of saving all men.

Dear Zoidar: The Lord Jesus Christ is not a potential Saviour. He requires no help from any of us. He takes full responsibility for the souls for whom He is the Mercy-Seat. I believe He loses nothing, not remnant bread and fish, and most assuredly not any of us. NONE!

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So I can truly believe that Jesus Christ is me Savior and no matter what I do He will forgive my sins then go to a church and start shooting everyone inside, men, women, children, and when the cops arrive I start shooting them to and get killed in the process. Am I saved?
The bible says that the word of our testimony is powerful. So please read my testimony, I KNOW EXACTLY what are going through!!! He LOVES you more than you can IMAGINE!!

My revelation of His Grace

For us to be able to proclaim that Jesus is the only way, we must KNOW that He is the only way. Knowing that salvation is not a work, but a gift from God through Jesus Christ our Lord. We must know that eternal life really means exactly that... eternal! And that our only hope everyday is in what the Lord did for us on Calvary. That His blood is enough, and that nothing can be added to or taken from that sacrifice; not even ourselves. For we were bought with a price, and we are not our own, we belong to God. "That nothing in all creation can separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord". --Rom 8:39 (a creation that includes ourselves) .

Early on in my walk as a believer in the Lord Jesus Christ I thought I could lose my salvation. I was afraid to look into the freedom of His grace for fear of MYSELF, but when I came to the end of myself and lifted my hands to the Father with nothing left to give, I saw His blood was sufficient! The fear of myself (some call license to sin) became a freedom from myself. The fear of accepting a "license to sin" was washed away by the endless mercy that flows from the Cross where my Savior bled and died!

Before this point I was ready to challenge anybody with the main exhortations in Hebrews and James and show them that their eternal life was not eternal. And that human effort, or lack of, could take away from the finished work of our Lord Jesus Christ. At this point the only thing I could really teach was law and works (with the Cross as a necessary formality); not able to see the awesome power of His Cross. But when the day dawned and the Morning Star rose in my heart, I saw His Grace had a mighty power!! The old man that I once feared would take the driver’s seat had already been taken care of on a Hill called Calvary nearly 2000 years ago!! I saw that being crucified WITH Christ was a FACT! That Christ in me through his cross was not just a metaphor, but the reality of transaction that took place on a lonely Hill called Calvary! And because we were crucified Christ (((WITH))) Christ, washed in his blood, and raised and seated with Christ in the heavenlies; how could we ever be unreconciled in the body of His flesh through death? For us to be separated from Christ we would also have to be uncrucified (((WITH))) Christ, and for that to happen Christ would also have to be uncrucified. And we know this is not possible because scripture is clear that Christ suffered (((ONCE))) for sins, the just for the unjust! 1 Peter 3:18 For Christ also suffered once for sins, the just for the unjust, that He might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive by the Spirit, And for this same reason... "We always carry around in our body the death of Jesus, so that the life of Jesus may also be revealed in our body."(2 Cor 4:10)

It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God, and He will chastise His children accordingly, but in a much more perfect way.

Now I can't make people see how the Father sees them through the blood of His dear Son… completely forgiven! But I hope that everyone will come the knowledge that His Grace is sufficient!! For there is a power that never rests in the Grace of God. A far cry from an old man trying to keep that which he never could earn. Oh, the power!! When your heart is ignited by the glory and pure grace of the Son of God!!

I pray that we all seek a deeper understanding of His grace and the power of God that is revealed through it. I've strayed on paths of "spirituality" in the past only to find myself crawling back to the cross. There is a power in the finished work of our Lord Jesus Christ that never runs dry or becomes stagnant. A power that is not human, and gives a peace and joy that passes understanding! The more we believe in the work of His cross the more we will cling to it. Our walk began here, and when it ends, I hope we are still clinging to that old cross!

Romans 8:37-39
No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us. 38 For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, 39 neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Grace and Peace….
 
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but what if those people who trampled underfoot the blood of Jesus repent and start believing in Jesus’ blood? can they still be saved?
See what the Bible says about those ones. (I quoted from the Bible, correctly, the whole idea directly)
 
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Early on in my walk as a believer in the Lord Jesus Christ I thought I could lose my salvation.
So, starting with a ... well, instead of finding the truth, apparently became a reason for turning to what was wrong, as happened, as follows>
Before this point I was ready to challenge anybody with the main exhortations in Hebrews and James and show them that their eternal life was not eternal.
For most people , unrepentant, they receive not eternal life, as written. But not as you understood it, which was incorrect, or at least led to grasping the false gospel instead of realizing the truth, ... continued>
And that human effort, or lack of, could take away from the finished work of our Lord Jesus Christ.
... it is not human effort that destroys a soul and body, nor the lack of human effort.
It is the choice a person makes. God will not override someones will to coerce them to be saved That is their choice to seek Him, to turn to Him.
Now I can't make people see how the Father sees them through the blood of His dear Son… completely forgiven!
Correct, and incorrect - there's no way in the flesh to make people see how the Father sees them. and since most are not forgiven at all, let alone completely forgiven, that would be , as it is, a great injustice to them (to get them to think they were forgiven when they were not) .
 
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um what if i didnt understand all this in the past, and when i was suffering, told God i didnt want Him, and replaced Jesus with a guy?

can i still receive Jesus back again?

i feel deceived, cos i unknowingly stumbled into a mega church many years back, and said the sinners prayer without knowing the meaning. i received the Holy Spirit when the pastor prayed over the congregation.

i wanted to live right, so I asked some people how i should live. as a Christian. and i was told to be myself. and i started to become very self focused. and went back into depression ><

i also tried asking a leader what sin was, attempting to understand Christian terms, but the leader refused to talk about sin.

i was misled here and there and left the faith when i was feeling very hopeless.

my life became worse after that, with the guy i left God for turning to sorcery to attack me ><

can i still come back to Jesus to be saved? i feel so lost and corrupted >< :(

Dear Zhen: My dear lady, our Lord specializes in lost and corrupted broken remnants of Adam 1. The only ones He sends away empty are the rich.

When hope seems hopeless, the Giver of hope is there to meet you!

He has filled the hungry with good things but has sent the rich away empty.
 
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So, starting with a ... well, instead of finding the truth, apparently became a reason for turning to what was wrong, as happened, as follows>

For most people , unrepentant, they receive not eternal life, as written. But not as you understood it, which was incorrect, or at least led to grasping the false gospel instead of realizing the truth, ... continued>

... it is not human effort that destroys a soul and body, nor the lack of human effort.
It is the choice a person makes. God will not override someones will to coerce them to be saved That is their choice to seek Him, to turn to Him.

Correct, and incorrect - there's no way in the flesh to make people see how the Father sees them. and since most are not forgiven at all, let alone completely forgiven, that would be , as it is, a great injustice to them (to get them to think they were forgiven when they were not) .
Like I told the other person... Only God can show you it's not by works, but by the blood of His dear Son. But I can assure you HIS BLOOD IS SUFFICIENT.
 
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The bible says that the word of our testimony is powerful. So please read my testimony, I KNOW EXACTLY what are going through!!! He LOVES you more than you can IMAGINE!!

My revelation of His Grace

For us to be able to proclaim that Jesus is the only way, we must KNOW that He is the only way. Knowing that salvation is not a work, but a gift from God through Jesus Christ our Lord. We must know that eternal life really means exactly that... eternal! And that our only hope everyday is in what the Lord did for us on Calvary. That His blood is enough, and that nothing can be added to or taken from that sacrifice; not even ourselves. For we were bought with a price, and we are not our own, we belong to God. "That nothing in all creation can separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord". --Rom 8:39 (a creation that includes ourselves) .

Early on in my walk as a believer in the Lord Jesus Christ I thought I could lose my salvation. I was afraid to look into the freedom of His grace for fear of MYSELF, but when I came to the end of myself and lifted my hands to the Father with nothing left to give, I saw His blood was sufficient! The fear of myself (some call license to sin) became a freedom from myself. The fear of accepting a "license to sin" was washed away by the endless mercy that flows from the Cross where my Savior bled and died!

Before this point I was ready to challenge anybody with the main exhortations in Hebrews and James and show them that their eternal life was not eternal. And that human effort, or lack of, could take away from the finished work of our Lord Jesus Christ. At this point the only thing I could really teach was law and works (with the Cross as a necessary formality); not able to see the awesome power of His Cross. But when the day dawned and the Morning Star rose in my heart, I saw His Grace had a mighty power!! The old man that I once feared would take the driver’s seat had already been taken care of on a Hill called Calvary nearly 2000 years ago!! I saw that being crucified WITH Christ was a FACT! That Christ in me through his cross was not just a metaphor, but the reality of transaction that took place on a lonely Hill called Calvary! And because we were crucified Christ (((WITH))) Christ, washed in his blood, and raised and seated with Christ in the heavenlies; how could we ever be unreconciled in the body of His flesh through death? For us to be separated from Christ we would also have to be uncrucified (((WITH))) Christ, and for that to happen Christ would also have to be uncrucified. And we know this is not possible because scripture is clear that Christ suffered (((ONCE))) for sins, the just for the unjust! 1 Peter 3:18 For Christ also suffered once for sins, the just for the unjust, that He might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive by the Spirit, And for this same reason... "We always carry around in our body the death of Jesus, so that the life of Jesus may also be revealed in our body."(2 Cor 4:10)

It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God, and He will chastise His children accordingly, but in a much more perfect way.

Now I can't make people see how the Father sees them through the blood of His dear Son… completely forgiven! But I hope that everyone will come the knowledge that His Grace is sufficient!! For there is a power that never rests in the Grace of God. A far cry from an old man trying to keep that which he never could earn. Oh, the power!! When your heart is ignited by the glory and pure grace of the Son of God!!

I pray that we all seek a deeper understanding of His grace and the power of God that is revealed through it. I've strayed on paths of "spirituality" in the past only to find myself crawling back to the cross. There is a power in the finished work of our Lord Jesus Christ that never runs dry or becomes stagnant. A power that is not human, and gives a peace and joy that passes understanding! The more we believe in the work of His cross the more we will cling to it. Our walk began here, and when it ends, I hope we are still clinging to that old cross!

Romans 8:37-39
No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us. 38 For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, 39 neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Grace and Peace….

Thanks for your testimony friend. I accepted Christ as a reformed believer and defended reformed theology fiercely. Then one day I was challenged to explain how John 15 doesn’t contradict eternal security and I eagerly set out to do just that. After much prayer and study of the scriptures, the Greek definitions, the early church writings, and early church history I failed to accomplish my goal of explaining how John 15 can be interpreted without contradicting eternal security. Then I had to go back and re-examine the scriptures that I thought supported eternal security and I found out that they can actually be interpreted to not support eternal security. This whole process took over a month of hard study and prayer. In the end I finally came to an understanding of God’s word that didn’t require overlooking certain scriptures that didn’t coincide with my beliefs. Not only that but my beliefs are also in line with the early church writings dating all the way back to the second century. May I ask why haven’t you explain the scriptures I’ve provided? Please provide the scriptures you believe that support eternal security and I will be happy to explain them.
 
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Like I told the other person... Only God can show you it's not by works, but by the blood of His dear Son. But I can assure you HIS BLOOD IS SUFFICIENT.
Yahuweh Indeed, In Spirit and In Truth Revealed Salvation , as Promised, to little children. Jesus' Blood is more than sufficient, absolutely true, AS He Says.

THAT ^^^ is not the worry, concern, or lie being addressed and exposed in this thread. >

(NOT as men try to claim for the lost when they are still lost and remain lost - nor for those who trample underfoot the blood of the lamb who was slain - for whom there NO LONGER REMAINS ANY SACRIFICE (no atonement, no redemption, no salvation) for their sins. )

As God Says Absolutely Finally in His Word, which is TRUTH, and cannot be changed by any false claims, false teachings, or false gospels, which are anathema (He Says)>
 
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Like I told the other person... Only God can show you it's not by works, but by the blood of His dear Son. But I can assure you HIS BLOOD IS SUFFICIENT.

I never said salvation is by works. I was waiting for your answer is salvation by faith alone? What about love? Are we saved by faith without love?
 
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