why are there so many evil people in the world?

NBB · Nov 19, 2019

Clizby WampusCat said:
Is 20 years not enough? Why shouldn't I try to contact the Muslim god or a Hindu god etc.?

How did god manifest to you and can you demonstrate that it was god?

If you want to find Jesus show a bit more enthusiasm lol, don't ask about allah etc, he responds! i'm not a liar or snake oil salesman.

NBB · Nov 19, 2019

Clizby WampusCat said:
Is 20 years not enough? Why shouldn't I try to contact the Muslim god or a Hindu god etc.?

How did god manifest to you and can you demonstrate that it was god?

There were lots of experiences, i didn't know God, so one day i found a job after i gave some money to church, and because of that i thought i found the job thanks to giving to church, so i went to an evangelical church to say thanks to God, but i never thought God had planned to manifest to me in the way he did, i felt the presence of the Holy spirit so strong entering me, that i could not deny it God interacts with people, after you have the Holy spirit you start to understand lots of things...

I was in bed and Jesus started to make me feel love in all my body and soul it was so strong and beatiful and supernatural that i remember that as one of my most treasured experiences.

If you doubt why this started to happening to me after going to church, there is one explanation, God, i never had hallucinations or something in my entire life i and this kind of thing doesn't feel like an hallucination or something, its very real, i tell you i was not someone to feel this kind of things ever, but after going that day to church God grabbed me and said 'hello i'm here' with this kind of experiences and i'm believing for life, i had others as well, but is going to make a too long post.

Tinker Grey · Nov 19, 2019

NBB said:
If you want to find Jesus show a bit more enthusiasm lol, don't ask about allah etc, he responds! i'm not a liar or snake oil salesman.

But could you be mistaken?

Rajni · Nov 19, 2019

NBB said:
Yes i'm evil... but that is ok, i don't feel bad because... God understand me and wants to help me.

If you insist that you are evil then the next question is why God would
create evil people.

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NBB · Nov 19, 2019

RayJeena said:
If you insist that you are evil then the next question is why God would
create evil people.

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We usually are not good, you should recognize it, who does a 'mother theresa' and starts really aiding people, without being selfish, a person that would love everyone he meets , and helps them, also that does not any harm to others, and doesn't have vices, well God is good like that and a lot better than that, so yes in comparison we are evil, and usually 'useless' in the sense we do little good.
If the world were filled with good people, this should of be a paradise on earth!.

And God allowed man to fail, why? i really don't know that is a deep question.

Clizby WampusCat · Nov 19, 2019

NBB said:
Yes i'm evil... but that is ok, i don't feel bad because... God understand me and wants to help me.

You maybe know the gospel on paper, but haven't had an encounter with Jesus, after that, there is no one to tell you he does not exists!, it would be like denying the air, you should get close to Jesus, asking with desperation even to respond he DOES respond.

Please don't tell me what I did or did not experience or think. I have not done that to you.

Clizby WampusCat · Nov 19, 2019

NBB said:
If you want to find Jesus show a bit more enthusiasm lol, don't ask about allah etc, he responds! i'm not a liar or snake oil salesman.

I am not a liar either but you continue to tell me that I am. I was a believer for almost 20 years, sincerely prayed and asked god for forgiveness etc.

Clizby WampusCat · Nov 19, 2019

NBB said:
There were lots of experiences, i didn't know God, so one day i found a job after i gave some money to church, and because of that i thought i found the job thanks to giving to church, so i went to an evangelical church to say thanks to God, but i never thought God had planned to manifest to me in the way he did, i felt the presence of the Holy spirit so strong entering me, that i could not deny it God interacts with people, after you have the Holy spirit you start to understand lots of things...

I was in bed and Jesus started to make me feel love in all my body and soul it was so strong and beatiful and supernatural that i remember that as one of my most treasured experiences.

If you doubt why this started to happening to me after going to church, there is one explanation, God, i never had hallucinations or something in my entire life i and this kind of thing doesn't feel like an hallucination or something, its very real, i tell you i was not someone to feel this kind of things ever, but after going that day to church God grabbed me and said 'hello i'm here' with this kind of experiences and i'm believing for life, i had others as well, but is going to make a too long post.

Many religious people have these same type of experiences and attribute them to different gods. How do you know you god is the christian god? Also, unless you can demonstrate these experiences were from God instead of just claiming that they are, why should I believe you?

NBB · Nov 19, 2019

Clizby WampusCat said:
I am not a liar either but you continue to tell me that I am. I was a believer for almost 20 years, sincerely prayed and asked god for forgiveness etc.

You can't prove by the ausence of it that it doesn't happen, but i'm positive about it, it did happen to me.

Clizby WampusCat · Nov 19, 2019

NBB said:
You can't prove by the ausence of it that it doesn't happen, but i'm positive about it, it did happen to me.

Sure, but you cannot demonstrate that your god exists either.

NBB · Nov 19, 2019

Clizby WampusCat said:
Many religious people have these same type of experiences and attribute them to different gods. How do you know you god is the christian god? Also, unless you can demonstrate these experiences were from God instead of just claiming that they are, why should I believe you?

I can't prove sorry, they should happen to be very convincing to me, like going from barely believing God existed, to being commited to him for life type of convincing.

Clizby WampusCat · Nov 19, 2019

NBB said:
I can't prove sorry, they should happen to be very convincing to me, like going from barely believing God existed, to being commited to him for life type of convincing.

Why would god stay hidden from a sincere seeker?

NBB · Nov 19, 2019

Clizby WampusCat said:
Why would god stay hidden from a sincere seeker?

That almost breaks my heart i tell you... i don't know but don't abandon hope.

Clizby WampusCat · Nov 19, 2019

NBB said:
That almost breaks my heart i tell you... i don't know but don't abandon hope.

Maybe you should investigate and think about why this is the case. The problem of divine hiddenness is a big problem for Christianity because it goes against what Jesus himself says about finding him. There are many sincere seekers that God ignores.

yeshuaslavejeff · Nov 19, 2019

Clizby WampusCat said:
Why would god stay hidden from a sincere seeker?

He Is Sovereign (not grasped nor understood by any human),
yet gives His Reasons (some of them, enough of them) IN HIS WORD (the Bible).

Clizby WampusCat · Nov 19, 2019

yeshuaslavejeff said:
He Is Sovereign (not grasped nor understood by any human),
yet gives His Reasons (some of them, enough of them) IN HIS WORD (the Bible).

Yes, the bible can say whatever your particular theology wants to be. This is not an answer but another unsupported claim.

Rajni · Nov 19, 2019

NBB said:
We usually are not good, you should recognize it, who does a 'mother theresa' and starts really aiding people, without being selfish, a person that would love everyone he meets , and helps them, also that does not any harm to others, and doesn't have vices, well God is good like that and a lot better than that, so yes in comparison we are evil, and usually 'useless' in the sense we do little good.
If the world were filled with good people, this should of be a paradise on earth!.

And God allowed man to fail, why? i really don't know that is a deep question.

Suffice it to say that an adequate narrative to explain it
can't be found in the paradigms showcased across the
spectrum represented at this site, except for maybe the
couple of times I've referenced it. Even then, it goes over
people's heads, so I'll just state that things aren't as out-of-
control or hopeless as even those who 'have hope' might
suggest.

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Robban · Nov 20, 2019

prosperity4all said:
why are there so many evil people in the world?

What is meant by "Evil"?

Is there a difference between evil and "Vile"?

Apart from rearranging the letters.

I looked it up in all haste and found that vile comes from "Vil" or vili a nordic god.

Vilify, or confuse,

"Villfarelse" to misslead.

I ask because it seems to be a harsh word to use specially when missdirected.

PS, Trying to understand, I liken it to darkness,

light dispels darkness.

If in a totally dark room with an empty bottle,

insert the cork and turn on rhe light, there will be no darkness in the bottle.

So, where did the darkness go?

NBB · Nov 20, 2019

RayJeena said:
Suffice it to say that an adequate narrative to explain it
can't be found in the paradigms showcased across the
spectrum represented at this site, except for maybe the
couple of times I've referenced it. Even then, it goes over
people's heads, so I'll just state that things aren't as out-of-
control or hopeless as even those who 'have hope' might
suggest.

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Put yourself in the shoes of people who are suffering, and think honestly if people of the world aren't evil.

Quackduck · Nov 20, 2019

NBB said:
Put yourself in the shoes of people who are suffering, and think honestly if people of the world aren't evil.

Some are, some aren't.

Rajni · Nov 20, 2019

NBB said:
Put yourself in the shoes of people who are suffering, and think honestly if people of the world aren't evil.

You presume I'm not one of those people who are suffering. :doh:

If I didn't want to experience suffering, I would not have
volunteered to come down here.

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