Do you believe a massive Holy Spirit tsunami is coming?

Is an outpouring of the Holy Spirit coming soon?

  • We already got it on the Day of Pentecost in Acts 2.

  • Yes, a MUCH greater outpouring is coming soon!

  • ! think that things will continue pretty much as they are now!

  • No, I think that the dark side of the force is taking over until 2nd coming!


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"..he does in us is designed to make us a mature church for his pleasure, until we become a source of praise to him—glorious and radiant, beautiful and holy, without fault or flaw." Eph 5:27

Most everyday there's another "Christian" group that denounces portions of Scripture. While others say they believe Scripture but dont talk about sin. We dont want to offend anyone. Some say repentance isn't necessary. I dont see how the church is going to mature without spot or wrinkle unless God moves. Without a doubt, He's the only one who can do it.
 
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"..he does in us is designed to make us a mature church for his pleasure, until we become a source of praise to him—glorious and radiant, beautiful and holy, without fault or flaw." Eph 5:27

Most everyday there's another "Christian" group that denounces portions of Scripture. While others say they believe Scripture but dont talk about sin. We dont want to offend anyone. Some say repentance isn't necessary. I dont see how the church is going to mature without spot or wrinkle unless God moves. Without a doubt, He's the only one who can do it.

So how do you understand 2Corinthians 5:19 which says God does not account sins?
 
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I was raised Pentecostal though we're non-denominational now. I'll be glad to answer your question. Out of respect for this group of harmonious forum posters, It will probably be in another forum. Will let you know and it'll take a couple of days.
 
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This prophecy of a massive outpouring sure sounds great to me!

The Great Tsunami by Rick Joyner | MorningStar Prophetic Bulletins 2011
Yes, I believe it, if the Church does its duty to bring it to pass, primarily through prayer. Historically, the Great Awakenings began with a few people and with lots of prayer. If the Church is going to lounge around in its relative comfort of freedoms and material bounty that we enjoy in the Western nations, then there will be no mighty, great revival. No Good will come forth in the world unless the Lord brings it forth though His people.

One of the historically greatest enemies of the Churh is material security and abundance. But it does not have to be.

Most of the declarations and promises of God are conditioned upon a positive response by God's People. We are the salt and light of the earth. If we do not knock the basket off so the light can shine, and if we are not active in tossing the salt wherever, whenever and however we can, then we can only expect darkness overtaking the land.

God has largely chosen to work through the payers of the Saints (Matthew 9:38; 1 Timothy 2:1-2; Jeremiah 29:7). So make your prayer lists out, and if you speak in tongues, then start praying that God will use you in that as much as possible!

If darkness floods the land, it is primarily the the fault of the Church.
 
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Yes, I believe it, if the Church does its duty to bring it to pass, primarily through prayer. Historically, the Great Awakenings began with a few people and with lots of prayer. If the Church is going to lounge around in its relative comfort of freedoms and material bounty that we enjoy in the Western nations, then there will be no mighty, great revival. No Good will come forth in the world unless the Lord brings it forth though His people.

One of the historically greatest enemies of the Churh is material security and abundance. But it does not have to be.

Most of the declarations and promises of God are conditioned upon a positive response by God's People. We are the salt and light of the earth. If we do not knock the basket off so the light can shine, and if we are not active in tossing the salt wherever, whenever and however we can, then we can only expect darkness overtaking the land.

God has largely chosen to work through the payers of the Saints (Matthew 9:38; 1 Timothy 2:1-2; Jeremiah 29:7). So make your prayer lists out, and if you speak in tongues, then start praying that God will use you in that as much as possible!

If darkness floods the land, it is primarily the the fault of the Church.

I believe that we tend to so fear the predictions about an anti-Christ that we do not want to do anything that will tend to hasten the fulfillment of Zechariah 14

In my opinion this sure sounds like idolatry!

Is a Jerusalem Third Temple needed before Zechariah 14 can happen?

We are even having difficulty discerning the difference between a Gentile ruler assisting the Jewish people to fulfill what they are predicted to do regarding a Jewish Temple with........
a different leaders STOPPING the offering of sacrifices after forty two months?????????

Obviously there is a huge difference between these two acts.......
but so many of us Christians equate them?????
 
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I believe that we tend to so fear the predictions about an anti-Christ that we do not want to do anything that will tend to hasten the fulfillment of Zechariah 14
One more reason for Christians to abandon the non-nonsensical and devastating idea that darkness overtaking the land prior to the 1 Thess. 4:17 Rapture Event is certain or somehow biblically mandated. So many evangelicals have ignorantly damaged the Church's effectiveness by preaching and teaching pre-Rapture inevitable moral/cultural decline.
 
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One more reason for Christians to abandon the non-nonsensical and devastating idea that darkness overtaking the land prior to the 1 Thess. 4:17 Rapture Event is certain or somehow biblically mandated. So many evangelicals have ignorantly damaged the Church's effectiveness by preaching and teaching pre-Rapture inevitable moral/cultural decline.

That is an excellent point.....
the outpouring of the Holy Spirit over the coming decades could astonish us in how the way this world works could well be affected???
 
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That is an excellent point.....
the outpouring of the Holy Spirit over the coming decades could astonish us in how the way this world works could well be affected???
Hi Dennis. I will locate my previous links on this site where I argue the relatively novel idea that verses that pertain to inevitable decline have been misunderstood and/or misapplied to the wrong time period. That may sound ridiculous, but the arguments are actually sound.

I have been trying to get this across to the Church since late 2015 when I was arguing whenever and however I could with Christians that we could experience a major conservative political victory in 2016 if we would just change are expectations.

Imagine if it is actually true that inevitable pre-Rapture moral decline, such as has mostly been taught within evangelical circles for many decades now, is not true? How would that impact the Church worldwide if believed and applied? Can we on one hand hold to pre-Rapture inevitable decline and then preach the spread of the light of Christ on the other without contradiction? Is there not a recession of the light of Christ in a society where there is the spreading of moral decline?

The early American Church held to an eschatological view quite different from today's view that created the expectation of then soon, successful, and rapid evangelism and societal improvement of an entire nation. And they achieved it. Why? Because they fully expected it and such expectation was biblical. What is the current Church's expectation? If we do not expect it, we cannot fully believe it; if we do not fully believe it, we are only running on half a tank.
 
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While spending our time in humble support of those whom suffer the ravages of time, frailty, or otherwise, the promised outcome of godly living in Christ, it does summon interest, how eagerness for the outpouring, also pours compassion through us,

“Be gracious to me, O LORD, for I am pining away, , Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ.”

(Psalm 6:2, Ephesians 4:13)

Fundamentally speaking, will this happen without either unity or prayer? Does an outpouring cause the “perfect man” to come into existence because there is such scarcity of His presence to accomplish this in our present condition? Thank God for the greater prophesy, but is that the extent of our strength in Him? His promise already stands fully ready, there are to be sure though, first steps in the attainment.

I solemnly charge you in the presence of God and of Christ Jesus and of His chosen angels, to maintain these principles without bias, doing nothing in a spirit of partiality.

(1 Timothy 5:21)
 
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"..he does in us is designed to make us a mature church for his pleasure, until we become a source of praise to him—glorious and radiant, beautiful and holy, without fault or flaw." Eph 5:27

Most everyday there's another "Christian" group that denounces portions of Scripture. While others say they believe Scripture but dont talk about sin. We dont want to offend anyone. Some say repentance isn't necessary. I dont see how the church is going to mature without spot or wrinkle unless God moves. Without a doubt, He's the only one who can do it.


There is some amazing information on healing after the thirty nine minute mark in this profoundly encouraging video:


Session 4 Kevin Zadai - FGBMFI Phoenix Round Up & Reunion 2019

While spending our time in humble support of those whom suffer the ravages of time, frailty, or otherwise, the promised outcome of godly living in Christ, it does summon interest, how eagerness for the outpouring, also pours compassion through us,

“Be gracious to me, O LORD, for I am pining away, , Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ.”

(Psalm 6:2, Ephesians 4:13)

Fundamentally speaking, will this happen without either unity or prayer? Does an outpouring cause the “perfect man” to come into existence because there is such scarcity of His presence to accomplish this in our present condition? Thank God for the greater prophesy, but is that the extent of our strength in Him? His promise already stands fully ready, there are to be sure though, first steps in the attainment.

I solemnly charge you in the presence of God and of Christ Jesus and of His chosen angels, to maintain these principles without bias, doing nothing in a spirit of partiality.

(1 Timothy 5:21)

You got it.... compassion is the word that is given there!
 
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Hi Dennis. I will locate my previous links on this site where I argue the relatively novel idea that verses that pertain to inevitable decline have been misunderstood and/or misapplied to the wrong time period. That may sound ridiculous, but the arguments are actually sound.

I have been trying to get this across to the Church since late 2015 when I was arguing whenever and however I could with Christians that we could experience a major conservative political victory in 2016 if we would just change are expectations.

Imagine if it is actually true that inevitable pre-Rapture moral decline, such as has mostly been taught within evangelical circles for many decades now, is not true? How would that impact the Church worldwide if believed and applied? Can we on one hand hold to pre-Rapture inevitable decline and then preach the spread of the light of Christ on the other without contradiction? Is there not a recession of the light of Christ in a society where there is the spreading of moral decline?

The early American Church held to an eschatological view quite different from today's view that created the expectation of then soon, successful, and rapid evangelism and societal improvement of an entire nation. And they achieved it. Why? Because they fully expected it and such expectation was biblical. What is the current Church's expectation? If we do not expect it, we cannot fully believe it; if we do not fully believe it, we are only running on half a tank.

WOW!!!!!!!!!

That idea is huge!!!!!!!
 
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Yes,I feel a revival is coming where we are all so much more closer to God.


I just heard a shocking statement by Dr. Kevin Zadai..... it is after the one hour mark in this video:

During his brush with death Messiah Yeshua - Jesus said that He would not come back until AFTER China, Russia and the Middle East come in!!!!!!!

I am listening to this again right now:

 
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