Supreme Court halts turnover of Trump tax returns

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You realize that what you are discussing is a Primary not the General Election. Primary elections have nothing to do with the electoral college and are not dealt with in any way in the US Constitution. Primaries are simply a way for the people to express their preference as to who they want to represent their political party in the General election. Prior to having primaries political parties chose the General election candidates. As a matter of fact, there is talk that the GOP are considering not even having a primary since the Republican consensus is for Trump; that of course can change. Not all states have primaries:

The Iowa caucuses are biennial electoral events for members of the Democratic and Republican parties in the U.S. state of Iowa. Unlike primary elections in most other U.S. states where registered voters go to polling places to cast ballots, Iowans instead gather at local caucus meetings to discuss and vote on the candidates. During both the presidential and midterm election seasons, registered Iowan voters vote in a per-precinct caucus for the party of which they are registered as a member. The caucuses are also held to select delegates to county conventions and party committees, among other party activities.Wikipedia
In my state the Dems. hold caucuses and Reps. hold primaries.

If one can't get on the ballot they may not be able to get enough votes to win to be their party's candidate, which would keep them from being on the general election ballot. They can't get electoral votes if they aren't on the general election ballot. That's why it's so important to be on the ballot in each state.
Michael Bloomberg is weighing the odds of winning even though he has missed the deadline in, I think, four states.
 
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In my state the Dems. hold a caucus and Reps. hold primaries.

If one can't get on the ballot they may not be able to get enough votes to win to be their party's candidate, which would keep them from being on the general election ballot. They can't get electoral votes if they aren't on the general election ballot.
That is very true which is why write-in candidates rarely (if ever) are successful.
 
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Eventually the Supreme Court will have to rule on whether or not the President is above the law --- or maybe just this President.
QFT.
There's the rub...as much as some justices might want to protect this individual president, any decision they make will affect future presidents as well.
For that reason, I think that at least one, perhaps two, of the conservative judges will vote with the four liberals.
If they vote to not hear the case, the returns will be immediately released based on lower court rulings.
Otherwise they will hear the case.
 
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....sounds like you want a king or dictator....
Congress and the courts are always obstructing the President's will.

Separations of powers is just impotence. We should un-separate the power and place it all in the executive, who must be above the law.

Congress can continue as a "peoples advisory committee".

The courts have their place adjudicating civil disputes and crimes - except regarding the President who must be immune from both, of course.

I dont want this of course. But observing Trump's greatness, I've come to realize we need this, and I'm saddened to thing how Great America could be if we'd just let Trump off the leash!

just trying out this attitude to see if it fits me.
 
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That is very true which is why write-in candidates rarely (if ever) are successful.
Technically, a candidate does not have to be on the ballot to get electoral votes as it is theoretically possible for write-in candidate to win the election. Generally, as you say, this is not a successful strategy. But in Trump's case, if he is kept off the ballot in California, his notoriety might allow him to do well there as a write-in.
 
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Congress and the courts are always obstructing the President's will.

Separations of powers is just impotence. We should un-separate the power and place it all in the executive, who must be above the law.

Congress can continue as a "peoples advisory committee".

The courts have their place adjudicating civil disputes and crimes - except regarding the President who must be immune from both, of course.

I dont want this of course. But observing Trump's greatness, I've come to realize we need this, and I'm saddened to thing how Great America could be if we'd just let Trump off the leash!

just trying out this attitude to see if it fits me.
Wow, I think we just heard from the finest legal mind in America.....thank you for all your consummate knowledge.
 
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Technically, a candidate does not have to be on the ballot to get electoral votes as it is theoretically possible for write-in candidate to win the election. Generally, as you say, this is not a successful strategy. But in Trump's case, if he is kept off the ballot in California, his notoriety might allow him to do well there as a write-in.
IF that were to happen I believe the outrage followed by voter retaliation in the rest of the country would do far more to get him elected than by CA keeping him off the ballot. Lincoln was not allowed on 9(?) ballots in the south and running against 3 other candidates and still won. Maybe the 1st example of voter retaliation in history?......
 
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IF that were to happen I believe the outrage followed by voter retaliation in the rest of the country would do far more to get him elected than by CA keeping him off the ballot. Lincoln was not allowed on 9(?) ballots in the south and running against 3 other candidates and still won. Maybe the 1st example of voter retaliation in history?......
That would be a nice case of historical irony.
 
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Perseverance, Comrade.
Ah, the 'tortoise and the hare', huh? But I heard the real skinny on that story: The hare flipped the tortoise on its back so all it could do was flap its arms and legs while the hare won the race.....sorta like what is going on in Washington today.....LOL
 
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It only took Republicans about 6 to get Pres. Clinton.
It took them eight to get Obama! Now look where he is. No job. Having to run around making speeches for chump change.
 
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